Well I can't speak for everyone, but I decided to concentrate my initial SP on Assault suits and ARs because that's what I'm most familiar with in other FPS games. I thought I'd get the rest of the weapons trained to one so I could play around with them and see what I like, but until I decide what to do next I keep going with a powerful AR setup. If there's a larger population of people thinking like me, it may just be that ARs seem overpowered because so many players have their AR skills trained way up over everything else...

the reason everyone uses AR is it's direct approach to any situation. that doesn't make it OP tho

ill take the killswitch over any AR. there better be more weapons in the future.

Why cause you suck with it? Duvolle here I come. No wonder everyone plays assault!

ill take the killswitch over any AR. there better be more weapons in the future.

Well it's painfully obvious that you've never used the Krin's Sin-11 or the GAR-21.

Well it's painfully obvious that you've never used the Krin's Sin-11 or the GAR-21.

The Gek does the same damage as the standard Assault Rifle with a 5% damage mod...so, yea. That's really the end of that.

^ This.

It's not so much that the Gek is OP (which it certainly is not, as pointed out above) but it's the fact that the person using the Gek took a bit of time to spec into it, therefore they are more experienced with the game.

I personally am glad more players are taking out their Geks. I am getting tired of being insta-killed by militia and exile AR's, but I can appreciate being insta-killed by a Gek because I know the player is risking some ISK/Aur on their suit to use it.

The weapon flattening is pretty lame, there really isn't much reason to choose the Gek over standard, but it does make sense to go from standard to Duvoll (which is wrong). Needs to go back to 30-33-36.

Duvolle = pointless unless you have proto dropsuit to support the demands of it...extra 1.6 damage per shot or extra 99 shield you decide...choose wisely the duvolle has no point in being in this game

Not true, a duvolle is good for 1 thing. When stacked with damage mods you can know how beastly you'll be with officer weapons and it reminds you why you need to spend the very next amount of SP you earn after getting the duvolle on proficiency and then wonder again why duvolles exist and be like gek or officer everything else is just dumb.

Wow I use this weapon and I think its way overpowered.

Half a clip to take out most heavies.. nom nom nom

lol? Correction: half a clip takes out bad heavies. No clip is going to save you from a good one ;)

They nerf the AR and dudes are still talking about it's OP...I'm seriously done supporting these stupid ass AR OP threads. I'm just going to help let them die

The Gek does the same damage as the standard Assault Rifle with a 5% damage mod...so, yea. That's really the end of that.

Range and dispersion characteristics are a lil' better, maybe hipfire too, not 100% on that tho.

So yeah, 5% more damage and better shooting characteristics, PG/CPU step up isn't too bad with the GEK, ISK jump is fairly serious tho.

Seems like solid balancing on CCP's part. I'd say well done.

Honestly Dubbs....The AR QQ surprises me every time I see it.

Each time they gave out more beta access leading up to the open beta you always had new and (not so) improved Heavy QQ, Tank QQ, etc... I didn't see Assault Rifle QQ coming.

I'm still of the opinion CCP needs to slow their roll on the nerf hammer until they have solid data from organized battles.

i just recently specd into AR, but im running a scout type 2 atm working towards a non-shotgun, stealth/speed hybrid build. i use AR because im comfortable with it and it suits my play style. I enjoy it for what it is and not because someone said "this is awesomeeee" or "GEK=instant win". Feels like middle school sometimes when people are influenced by something like " ohh , make this build, all the cool good players are doing it". Ill have to agree with some people here in saying that things are pretty decently balanced atm. Fact is imho, the gun doesnt kill, the person wielding it does. you can have the best gun in the game but if you dont have a steady hand or an understanding of how its meant to function or your just not comfortable with it, then thats your bad. Getting killed by something like the GEK all the time doesnt mean its OP regardless of the % of players using it. You dont know what those people are specd out with, for all you know they could be super specd in just AR/weaponry/sharpshooter, therefore shredding any unsuspecting players in a matter of seconds. Ive only been on this forum for close to 2 weeks and its already annoying seeing so many people blaming their skill short-comings and lack of strategy on the weapons in the game...i get there has been and still will be times when things are DEF. OP or UP but this is definetely not one of those times.

Travi out.