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Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:37:00 -
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We need to come up with a standard on how much ISK a director can give out. It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account.
10 million ISK cap per day should be the max.
Edit:
Leaving this is out here for those idiots who love to assume stuff.
In 2009, a player alliance known as Goonswarm was contacted by a disgruntled director of rival alliance Band of Brothers, one of the largest alliances in the game at that time. The defecting director then stripped Band of Brothers of a large quantity of assets including ships, money and territory, and disbanded the alliance. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:37:00 -
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why? |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:39:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account.
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:39:00 -
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Okay let me further interate, why should I not be able to give a corpie all the isk I could want? After all there will be equipment and items in dust 514 that will eventually cost multiple billions of isk. Such as going out to purchase an entire base or an anti-capital ship sky fire battery.
As for your response.
Part of the game. Anyone can rob anyone else blind in this game as long as they do not involve real life assest such as credit cards and houses its fair game. Hijacking an entire corp is common practice in new eden. Choose your friends wiesely. |
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CCP Nullarbor
C C P C C P Alliance
540
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:40:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account.
This is awesome.
(Welcome to New Eden)
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Val'herik Dorn
CrimeWave Syndicate
264
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:43:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account. This is awesome. (Welcome to New Eden)
I do believe a DEV just collected sweet sweet tears!
Its always good to see the devs enjoying the treachery that this community will thrive on. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:43:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Okay let me further interate, why should I not be able to give a corpie all the isk I could want? After all there will be equipment and items in dust 514 that will eventually cost multiple billions of isk. Such as going out to purchase an entire base or an anti-capital ship sky fire battery.
As for your response.
Part of the game.
All corp level decisions are made my the CEO. If the CEO wants to give someone a billion isk it is his prerogative. Lackies dont need that right. |
Government CheeseBurger
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
232
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:44:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account. This is awesome. (Welcome to New Eden) HA this is great. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:45:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account. This is awesome. (Welcome to New Eden)
No its not! |
Telcontar Dunedain
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
328
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:46:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account. This is awesome. (Welcome to New Eden) No its not!
Is so. |
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Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax.
360
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:47:00 -
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Welcome to New Eden, where the only way to not get robbed is to not let anyone else have access |
Y0UR NAME HERE
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
445
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:47:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account. This is awesome. (Welcome to New Eden)
I heart you. |
Cyn Bruin
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
654
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:47:00 -
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So you're saying you were robbed? That's... horrible... |
Government CheeseBurger
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
232
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:47:00 -
[14] - Quote
Sentient Archon wrote:We need to come up with a standard on how much ISK a director can give out. It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account.
10 million ISK cap per day should be the max.
I have sent my application to your corp. Can you please also make me a director. I have very good judgment and can be trusted. |
dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
967
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:48:00 -
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Limiting the amount per transaction isn't a solution anyway, just a hassle.
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:49:00 -
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Now if they set roles for people under directors to be able to allow or disallow corp wallet acces I be fine with that but limiting thier withdrawl ammounts I will have to say no. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:49:00 -
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Government CheeseBurger wrote: I have sent my application to your corp. Can you please also make me a director. I have very good judgment and can be trusted.
Sorry. We believe in quality. Considering that in your last corp match none of you got more than one kill your app is rejected |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2049
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:52:00 -
[18] - Quote
Working as intended, sorry bro "HTFU" |
Government CheeseBurger
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
232
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:53:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Government CheeseBurger wrote: I have sent my application to your corp. Can you please also make me a director. I have very good judgment and can be trusted.
Sorry. We believe in quality. Considering that in your last corp match none of you got more than one kill your app is rejected
Right over your head and out of the ball park. Welcome to New Eden.
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137H4RGIC
WarRavens
26
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:54:00 -
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Don't worry, with financial advisors like me around, no one will steal your ISK. Set me as accountant and I will make sure no one else steals your moneys. I wll keep a close eye on it and make sure no one skims off the top. I would like to request to join your corporation as the Accountant. |
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Tez Omega
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
12
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:55:00 -
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The solution is roles and wallet permissions similar to what Eve already does. |
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CCP Nullarbor
C C P C C P Alliance
540
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:56:00 -
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Tez Omega wrote:The solution is roles and wallet permissions similar to what Eve already does.
Our plan is to give a better breakdown of corp roles other than director, yes. |
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Kristoff Atruin
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
324
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:59:00 -
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If you want to recover from your setback you should send me whatever isk you have left. I'll double it in a week and send it back. Pizza promise. |
Tez Omega
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
12
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Posted - 2013.01.28 19:03:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Tez Omega wrote:The solution is roles and wallet permissions similar to what Eve already does. Our plan is to give a better breakdown of corp roles other than director, yes.
While you're paying attention to me, can I go wildly off-topic and ask for the ability to switch yaw/roll on the analog sticks when flying dropships? :3 |
Zalifer Nakamoda
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
56
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Posted - 2013.01.28 19:11:00 -
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Kristoff Atruin wrote:If you want to recover from your setback you should send me whatever isk you have left. I'll double it in a week and send it back. Pizza promise.
Pizza promise is a thing now :D
Dear Devs.
Please do not implement stupid crap like this post requests.
More roles would be nice however.
Love, Zalifer |
Bren Butchman
Tgrad Mercs
4
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Posted - 2013.01.28 19:15:00 -
[26] - Quote
On a side note, the most recent corp theft in eve that I know of, sums up to 2,3 trillion isk.
And the fact that someone can accomplish that using only normal gameplay mechanics is what make eve (and dust consequently) so awesome, in my opinion. |
R F Gyro
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
315
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Posted - 2013.01.28 19:24:00 -
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Don't trust anyone, ever, with anything, for anything. If its not in your personal stash or your wallet, you've already lost it. You might be pleasantly surprised some of the time when you actually do get it back, but it certainly won't be every time.
Oh, and if a deal looks too good to be true: its a scam. In fact, even if it isn't too good to be true its probably a scam anyway. |
Yay Adski
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
133
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Posted - 2013.01.28 19:29:00 -
[28] - Quote
Firstly LOL and secondly seeing as nobody else has asked this, how much was borrowed? |
Takahiro Kashuken
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2013.01.28 19:29:00 -
[29] - Quote
HTFU |
BigussDikkuss
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
42
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Posted - 2013.01.28 19:30:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Working as intended, sorry bro "HTFU"
I actually laugh my ass off everytime some geek says "HTFU"
Seriously. So "Forum Board RAWR!"
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BigussDikkuss
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
42
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Posted - 2013.01.28 19:30:00 -
[31] - Quote
Takahiro Kashuken wrote:HTFU
And another geek enters the fray.
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Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
902
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Posted - 2013.01.28 19:44:00 -
[32] - Quote
Welcome to New Eden |
R F Gyro
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
315
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Posted - 2013.01.28 19:46:00 -
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BigussDikkuss wrote:I actually laugh my ass off everytime some geek says "HTFU" Wow. You should see a doctor about that. Figuratively laughing your arse off is fine, but actually doing it?
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Lunamaria Hawkeye
SyNergy Gaming
92
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Posted - 2013.01.28 20:07:00 -
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R F Gyro wrote:BigussDikkuss wrote:I actually laugh my ass off everytime some geek says "HTFU" Wow. You should see a doctor about that. Figuratively laughing your arse off is fine, but actually doing it?
I've seen a lot of people with this affliction, happened to a friend of mine actually. Doctor told him there was no cure. Now he lives in extreme discomfort all because some jerk had something funny to say. A surgeon tried to sew it back, but it was never the same....... |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1772
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Posted - 2013.01.28 20:10:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account. This is awesome. (Welcome to New Eden) LMAO - Best thread ever. |
Gunner Nightingale
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
217
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Posted - 2013.01.28 20:11:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account. This is awesome. (Welcome to New Eden)
LMFAO, ROFL, broke a rib!!!! |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1060
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Posted - 2013.01.28 20:23:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:
This is awesome.
(Welcome to New Eden)
And this is why i never donate ISK
(welcome to my world) |
ImMortal SoLDieR X
RestlessSpirits
41
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Posted - 2013.01.28 20:30:00 -
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START TRANSMISSION....................
Sounds like "TYCO" .................. HOLY THEFT BATMAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
END TRANSMISSION........................ |
ImMortal SoLDieR X
RestlessSpirits
41
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Posted - 2013.01.28 20:32:00 -
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START TANSMISSION .............
ITS ALL THERE. ITS A GLITCH!!!! CHECK YOUR COFFERS AGAIN and REBOOT it will be fixed.
END TRANSMISSION.............. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2013.01.28 20:37:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account. This is awesome. (Welcome to New Eden)
CCP Nullarbor you're my hero of the day |
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Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2013.01.28 20:40:00 -
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Telcontar Dunedain wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account. This is awesome. (Welcome to New Eden) No its not! Is so.
Sorry arch but workin as intended dont give ppl director roles/power if they gonna abuse it |
SILENTSAM 69
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
421
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Posted - 2013.01.28 21:33:00 -
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People can destroy something you spent time in creating?
Welcome to new Eden.
Just to let the new comers know. This is one of the threats of spies working their way into your organizations. They can get in, and if given permission they might one day steal all your corp ISK and assets. This is why open recruitment is a risk. This is also why trust and loyalty are very valuable in New Eden, both in EVE and DUST 514. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2013.01.28 21:38:00 -
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SILENTSAM 69 wrote:People can destroy something you spent time in creating? Welcome to new Eden. Just to let the new comers know. This is one of the threats of spies working their way into your organizations. They can get in, and if given permission they might one day steal all your corp ISK and assets. This is why open recruitment is a risk. This is also why trust and loyalty are very valuable in New Eden, both in EVE and DUST 514. Listen to this man, it will help you save yourself pain in the long run. True trust and loyalty are both the most rare, and the most valuable, assets in New Eden.
Cross |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2013.01.28 21:49:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account. This is awesome. (Welcome to New Eden)
You're my new fav dev.
I'm so happy the EULA is exactly the same as EVE. |
Monkxx
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2013.01.28 22:24:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account. This is awesome. (Welcome to New Eden)
The world where NPCs are smarter than some human players... |
CookieStein
G I A N T
62
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Posted - 2013.01.28 23:05:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:All corp level decisions are made my the CEO. If the CEO wants to give someone a billion isk it is his prerogative. Lackies dont need that right. Assuming "my" is supposed to be 'me' and you are CEO then sorry to say but it's your own fault. A dictatorship is not doing it right IMHO but if that's the path you want to take then you should have safe guarded yourself against this happening. While we do need roles with separately defined wallets, corp hangers and a long list of other things, that's no reason fully expose yourself to decent. Though like I said if you want to run a complete top down corp then revolt and theft falls on you.
Why you would publicly post this is beyond me though, it weakens your corp and alliance.
Sorry you got jacked. Hope you learned a lesson. And ya working as intended |
CookieStein
G I A N T
62
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Posted - 2013.01.28 23:05:00 -
[47] - Quote
Edit for a double post. |
Kain Spero
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
907
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Posted - 2013.01.28 23:11:00 -
[48] - Quote
I think that this has finally happened Dust side is awesome.
That it happened to Sentient is not. I want him to be able to buy tanks so I can blow them up. Get in touch with me in game Archon.
I do think that we need some more discrete roles for Dust officers. The all or nothing role is a problem. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2013.01.28 23:40:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:I do think that we need some more discrete roles for Dust officers. The all or nothing role is a problem. Agreed, more roles and direct control of what those roles apply to and who can give them are most certainly key aspects to implement (hopefully sooner rather than later).
0.02 ISK Cross |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2013.01.28 23:55:00 -
[50] - Quote
Directors are basically 2nd in commands and have the same power just in case CEO isn't on and something bad is happening. |
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Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2013.01.29 00:40:00 -
[51] - Quote
This is a legitimate issue. EVE side has multiple wallets to deal with these sorts of issues. There should be multiple DUST side wallets until the two currencies are merged. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2013.01.29 00:46:00 -
[52] - Quote
Yes nothing stops a director in eve from robbing everything. hence the title and role. |
Breakin Stuff
Immobile Infantry
680
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Posted - 2013.01.29 01:11:00 -
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Cyn Bruin wrote: So you're saying you were robbed? That's... Hilarious...
Fixed that for you |
Tregar Kerrigan
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
36
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Posted - 2013.01.29 01:47:00 -
[54] - Quote
Sentient Archon wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account. This is awesome. (Welcome to New Eden) No its not! I believe you misunderstood the dev's post, so I will clarify for you.
Working as Intended |
Breakin Stuff
Immobile Infantry
680
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Posted - 2013.01.29 01:50:00 -
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Tregar Kerrigan wrote: Working as Intended
Oh I cannot wait for the inbound rage and tears over this kind of thing.
How long till we see a DUST failcascade?
Bets? |
Tregar Kerrigan
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
36
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Posted - 2013.01.29 01:51:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Tregar Kerrigan wrote: Working as Intended
Oh I cannot wait for the inbound rage and tears over this kind of thing. How long till we see a DUST failcascade? Bets? It all depends on whether or not Tyrrax Thorkk has a ps3. if he does, I give it a month on the outside. month and a half otherwise. |
Breakin Stuff
Immobile Infantry
680
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Posted - 2013.01.29 01:55:00 -
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Tregar Kerrigan wrote:It all depends on whether or not Tyrrax Thorkk has a ps3. if he does, I give it a month on the outside. month and a half otherwise.
You give DUST players too much credit. I think they're already infested with SPAIz and Infiltrators with direcctor privs prepped to wreck their lives
Edit: I predict the first failcascade to happen about 20 minutes after the first unrestricted ISK transfers between EVE and DUST go live. |
Tregar Kerrigan
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
36
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Posted - 2013.01.29 04:05:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Tregar Kerrigan wrote:It all depends on whether or not Tyrrax Thorkk has a ps3. if he does, I give it a month on the outside. month and a half otherwise. You give DUST players too much credit. I think they're already infested with SPAIz and Infiltrators with direcctor privs prepped to wreck their lives Edit: I predict the first failcascade to happen about 20 minutes after the first unrestricted ISK transfers between EVE and DUST go live. I know that ISK isn't transferable from one game to another, but how exactly does the ISK giving work in dust at the moment? |
Breakin Stuff
Immobile Infantry
680
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Posted - 2013.01.29 04:08:00 -
[59] - Quote
I have no idea. I don't ever have enough to comfortably share.
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Absolute Idiom II
BetaMax.
68
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Posted - 2013.01.29 09:24:00 -
[60] - Quote
So no clues on how much was robbed? |
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Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
437
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Posted - 2013.01.29 09:56:00 -
[61] - Quote
Still no info on how much was stolen, beyond the fact that it was probably more than 10 million ISK.
Not satisfied with the tears collected yet. |
Mycor IX
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
3
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Posted - 2013.01.29 11:35:00 -
[62] - Quote
Soon enough there will be a deluge of tears to rellish in!
Its gonna be "awesome"! |
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions
136
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Posted - 2013.01.29 13:08:00 -
[63] - Quote
So this is EVE after all, was worried there for a while
/c |
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Tolen Rosas
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
37
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Posted - 2013.01.29 13:13:00 -
[64] - Quote
lololololol
welcome to EVE consoler! |
Gridboss
BetaMax.
185
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Posted - 2013.01.29 13:15:00 -
[65] - Quote
I was wondering when this would happen. Took long enough.
Seriously don't give someone access to something if you can't trust them with it. Welcome to New Eden. Enjoy your stay. |
Rizmordan
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
3
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Posted - 2013.01.29 13:32:00 -
[66] - Quote
I'll gladly donate a few million to my corp, it's not like it takes long to replace if you don't suck. |
Repe Susi
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
249
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Posted - 2013.01.29 13:44:00 -
[67] - Quote
Kristoff Atruin wrote:If you want to recover from your setback you should send me whatever isk you have left. I'll double it in a week and send it back. Pizza promise.
I can vouch for this guy.
Before I met Kristoff, I had mere 100.000 isk on my account. Now I have millions and millions and beautiful model wife and it took only 3 days!
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JW v Weingarten
SyNergy Gaming
300
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Posted - 2013.01.29 14:02:00 -
[68] - Quote
There is not a single word about theft from the op, just 1 guy assuming something and a dev believing the over excited guy. |
DJ WigglesGRN
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.01.29 14:07:00 -
[69] - Quote
CCP Nullarbor wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account. This is awesome. (Welcome to New Eden)
This makes me happy every time i see these types of comments :) the Eve Universe is not a nice kind fluffy place, its cold unforgiving and harsh. |
Makenshi Drakonen
Immobile Infantry
0
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Posted - 2013.01.29 15:17:00 -
[70] - Quote
CCP Nullarbor said it best, Welcome to New Eden
Stealing, backstabbery and being a **** are a part of this game. If you can't deal with it then Harden the **** up |
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Vaerana Myshtana
ScIdama Endless Renaissance
205
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Posted - 2013.01.29 16:17:00 -
[71] - Quote
Sentient Archon wrote:We need to come up with a standard on how much ISK a director can give out. It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account.
10 million ISK cap per day should be the max.
I know that people have made reference to this being normal in New Eden, but to be clear- it has already happened many, many, many times in EVE Online. In a couple of cases, major alliances (even coalitions of alliances) have been rocked by this.
It is such a common occurrence that CCP even made a video about it:
http://www.eveonline.com/creations/videos/causality-trailer/ |
Isarian Menoptra
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
85
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Posted - 2013.01.29 17:40:00 -
[72] - Quote
CCP Nullarbor wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account. This is awesome. (Welcome to New Eden)
Bring on the tears! But roles will be nice as well. |
Snuggl3s
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.01.29 18:16:00 -
[73] - Quote
CCP Nullarbor wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account. This is awesome. (Welcome to New Eden)
Bwahahahaa CCP Nullabor you sir made my day. If i see you I'm buying you a beer at FanFest :D |
Koren Ellens
DUST University Ivy League
12
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Posted - 2013.01.29 18:29:00 -
[74] - Quote
HTFU? Always related. |
Tien TheSecond
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
198
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Posted - 2013.01.29 19:29:00 -
[75] - Quote
This made me smile, then lol. Who popped the corp robbing cherry, and why is this guy stupid enough to publicize it? |
Z3R0 GR4VITY
HavoK Core
35
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Posted - 2013.01.29 19:35:00 -
[76] - Quote
CEO's just need to be more sensible and careful of who they choose for a director role.
-CASE CLOSED- |
YourDeadAgain76
Red Star.
133
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Posted - 2013.01.29 20:16:00 -
[77] - Quote
JW v Weingarten wrote:There is not a single word about theft from the op, just 1 guy assuming something and a dev believing the over excited guy.
+1 cant believe this thread still going on. LOL |
Villanor Aquarius
Shattered Ascension
79
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Posted - 2013.01.29 20:20:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Okay let me further interate, why should I not be able to give a corpie all the isk I could want? After all there will be equipment and items in dust 514 that will eventually cost multiple billions of isk. Such as going out to purchase an entire base or an anti-capital ship sky fire battery.
As for your response.
Part of the game. All corp level decisions are made my the CEO. If the CEO wants to give someone a billion isk it is his prerogative. Lackies dont need that right.
Don't give lackies that right. That's why corp's that actually know what they are doing are very careful of who they give what roles too. Dust corps could use more roles and it'd be nice to see a role that can be given to dust players to allow them to accept dust apps to the corp and give them rights similar to eve. I would love to have eve corps able to make a dust wallet division and give access to it to a dust player.
TL;DR Don't give director privileges to disgruntled or otherwise untrustworthy people. And 10mil is inconsequential if money transfers will be allowed. |
Skaffeh
Black Nova Corp
1
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Posted - 2013.01.30 00:05:00 -
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Quote:In 2009, a player alliance known as Goonswarm was contacted by a disgruntled director of rival alliance Band of Brothers, one of the largest alliances in the game at that time. The defecting director then stripped Band of Brothers of a large quantity of assets including ships, money and territory, and disbanded the alliance.
Black Nova directors, Best directors.
<3 Haargoth |
Ender Storm
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
50
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Posted - 2013.01.30 01:27:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account. This is awesome. (Welcome to New Eden)
CCP Devs best Devs |
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Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2013.01.30 01:29:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:I think that this has finally happened Dust side is awesome.
That it happened to Sentient is not. I want him to be able to buy tanks so I can blow them up. Get in touch with me in game Archon.
I do think that we need some more discrete roles for Dust officers. The all or nothing role is a problem.
still confused as to why ppl think he got robbed no where did he say he got robbed
why do ppl assume so much (not just u kain but many others in this thread)
PS: come blow up my tanks |
Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous
SyNergy Gaming
242
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Posted - 2013.01.30 01:38:00 -
[82] - Quote
Mavado V Noriega wrote:Kain Spero wrote:I think that this has finally happened Dust side is awesome.
That it happened to Sentient is not. I want him to be able to buy tanks so I can blow them up. Get in touch with me in game Archon.
I do think that we need some more discrete roles for Dust officers. The all or nothing role is a problem. still confused as to why ppl think he got robbed no where did he say he got robbed why do ppl assume so much (not just u kain but many others in this thread) PS: come blow up my tanks
mob mentality, one person read into it and then it snowballed. Shows how eager people are for something like this to happen though...
And he isnt a CEO of a corp, it was a legit suggestion on his end. One that i disagree with, although new corp roles are coming out so that probably deals with the problem he was actually intending to address. So people can still set corp matches but not deal with money. |
CookieStein
G I A N T
62
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Posted - 2013.01.30 02:04:00 -
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So I take it between the few alliance denials here and the General thread that was locked that a theft didn't occur? Surely you guys can understand that between the language of his first two posts (and "my the CEO" makes absolutely no sense unless it was supposed to be 'me', hence the confusion as to him being CEO in the first place) and Mavado your own first comment "working as intended...." that the assumption that there was a theft was a pretty safe one.
Good luck in the damage control guys (I sincerely mean that) cause this thing snowballed fast.
Just a general comment, not pointing any fingers, people have to be careful and think about what they post, tweet, comment on etc. cause rumour and assumption can very easily get out of control. Something that was 'front page' news and then gets retracted never has as large an audience the second time around.
Choose your words carefully everyone, just saying. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2013.01.30 03:02:00 -
[84] - Quote
CookieStein wrote:So I take it between the few alliance denials here and the General thread that was locked that a theft didn't occur? Surely you guys can understand that between the language of his first two posts (and "my the CEO" makes absolutely no sense unless it was supposed to be 'me', hence the confusion as to him being CEO in the first place) and Mavado your own first comment "working as intended...." that the assumption that there was a theft was a pretty safe one.
Good luck in the damage control guys (I sincerely mean that) cause this thing snowballed fast.
Just a general comment, not pointing any fingers, people have to be careful and think about what they post, tweet, comment on etc. cause rumour and assumption can very easily get out of control. Something that was 'front page' news and then gets retracted never has as large an audience the second time around.
Choose your words carefully everyone, just saying.
The problem is there is no way to prove it, they could have scrambled to get the isk back in to prevent lackies from confirming the story. Or removed role from one guy or forced him to give it back or else. Also asking the 'stupid question' or in this scenario 'the stupid suggestion' while I don't want to berate anyone in asking in the future it is just that the common generator of either is usually victimization, its extraordinarily rare that someone would go out of their way to test systems for exploits without some level of self gain. As for counter intel responses, they're quite typical as they do read the forums, analyze the on goings, and laugh just as hard and share with their friends when even at the suggestion of a screw up is brought to bear.
I know I got a few dozen red and black flags. The most prominent ones, 'do not promote with game mechanics' and 'cant' keep mouth shut.'
Overall... How best to deal with damage control for the future of your corpses in case you guys fall apart? Oddly enough, Lie. Pin blame on a specific person alt and delete him and make it a lesson learned and a warning for future ceo's and mercs. With no dust 514 api, you have the nice grace of no evidence ever being possible.
Anyways you're free to come up with others but suggesting that option now invalidates its use.
Welcome to New Eden politics.
btw developers have access to logs. |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
206
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Posted - 2013.01.30 03:10:00 -
[85] - Quote
CCP Nullarbor wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account. This is awesome. (Welcome to New Eden)
lol, devs have no pitty if you get screwed by another player |
Joe Dust
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.01.30 03:43:00 -
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So was anything taken? The world must know. |
Patoman Radiant
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
53
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Posted - 2013.01.30 04:16:00 -
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If it is your corp, and isk, keep the isk on a bank character only you have access too, and limit the isk in corp to 10-20 mil, remainder on bank character. |
BL4CK FRIAR
Defiant Kelkoons
17
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Posted - 2013.01.30 05:37:00 -
[88] - Quote
Sentient Archon wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account. This is awesome. (Welcome to New Eden) No its not!
Yes it is. First why are you dropping more then a few million into your corp wallet? Corp battles cost 1mil isk to launch, so why have more then two or three million isk in the pot at any given time. Second, why are you, as a corp player that helped win that corp battle, not demanding getting paid out? Third, if you are so worried about who has access to your corp wallet, why arent you vetting those people better? |
Natu Nobilis
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2013.01.30 19:17:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:We need to come up with a standard on how much ISK a director can give out. It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account. 10 million ISK cap per day should be the max. Edit: Leaving this is out here for those idiots who love to assume stuff.In 2009, a player alliance known as Goonswarm was contacted by a disgruntled director of rival alliance Band of Brothers, one of the largest alliances in the game at that time. The defecting director then stripped Band of Brothers of a large quantity of assets including ships, money and territory, and disbanded the alliance.
I miss the innocence of the newb in me when i read this. You are a cutie.
Prepare yourself to experience a lot of itneresting things on your journey in New Eden.
You are welcome.
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PAUL BERNARD
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
76
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Posted - 2013.01.30 20:03:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:We need to come up with a standard on how much ISK a director can give out. It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account. 10 million ISK cap per day should be the max. Edit: Leaving this is out here for those idiots who love to assume stuff.In 2009, a player alliance known as Goonswarm was contacted by a disgruntled director of rival alliance Band of Brothers, one of the largest alliances in the game at that time. The defecting director then stripped Band of Brothers of a large quantity of assets including ships, money and territory, and disbanded the alliance.
I am sorry man. However, fortunately for you, I have decided to quit this stupid game. Over my many months of playing I have accumulated hundreds of millions of isk, and I am giving it out to people who are serious about this game.
To show you serious, send me any amount of isk under 10 million and i will double it. Any amount higher than 10 million i will triple it |
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SILENTSAM 69
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
421
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Posted - 2013.01.30 20:54:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:We need to come up with a standard on how much ISK a director can give out. It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account. 10 million ISK cap per day should be the max. Edit: Leaving this is out here for those idiots who love to assume stuff.In 2009, a player alliance known as Goonswarm was contacted by a disgruntled director of rival alliance Band of Brothers, one of the largest alliances in the game at that time. The defecting director then stripped Band of Brothers of a large quantity of assets including ships, money and territory, and disbanded the alliance. I love that you added that story about the downfall of BoB. You added one of the reasons why your suggestion will never happen. We love the ability to screw over people to this degree. |
Vaerana Myshtana
ScIdama Endless Renaissance
205
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Posted - 2013.01.30 23:45:00 -
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PAUL BERNARD wrote: I am sorry man. However, fortunately for you, I have decided to quit this stupid game. Over my many months of playing I have accumulated hundreds of millions of isk, and I am giving it out to people who are serious about this game.
To show you serious, send me any amount of isk under 10 million and i will double it. Any amount higher than 10 million i will triple it
Wow. Sometimes the old EVE scams are the best. |
PAUL BERNARD
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
76
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Posted - 2013.01.31 02:26:00 -
[93] - Quote
Sentient Archon wrote:Leaving this is out here for those idiots who love to assume stuff.In 2009, a player alliance known as Goonswarm was contacted by a disgruntled director of rival alliance Band of Brothers, one of the largest alliances in the game at that time. The defecting director then stripped Band of Brothers of a large quantity of assets including ships, money and territory, and disbanded the alliance.
oh and you left out the next paragraph
Such dangers are an inherent part of Eve Online's virtual economy and thus are purposely not dealt with by the developers.[99] Players are expected to make financial decisions based (among other factors) on the possibility of other players' fiduciary malfeasance, much as in real-life economics. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2013.01.31 03:06:00 -
[94] - Quote
PAUL BERNARD wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:Leaving this is out here for those idiots who love to assume stuff.In 2009, a player alliance known as Goonswarm was contacted by a disgruntled director of rival alliance Band of Brothers, one of the largest alliances in the game at that time. The defecting director then stripped Band of Brothers of a large quantity of assets including ships, money and territory, and disbanded the alliance. oh and you left out the next paragraph Such dangers are an inherent part of Eve Online's virtual economy and thus are purposely not dealt with by the developers.[99] Players are expected to make financial decisions based (among other factors) on the possibility of other players' fiduciary malfeasance, much as in real-life economics.
oh burn 2. |
Government CheeseBurger
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
232
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Posted - 2013.01.31 09:40:00 -
[95] - Quote
nudge for the lawls |
JohnDS Wolf
Exit Wound Heavy Industries
10
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Posted - 2013.01.31 10:05:00 -
[96] - Quote
CCP Nullarbor wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account. This is awesome. (Welcome to New Eden)
This reply is fing AWESOME. Nullarbor, you have my respect.
in all due seriousness, Corporations should be able to call FOUL and be able to (in some form or such) be able to punish such trechory with the up most scruteny. this behavor should NOT be enforced or alowed, HOWEVER, it should be able to "get away with" this behavior. please note that the Corporation should do this...not the devoloper. |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
437
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Posted - 2013.01.31 10:48:00 -
[97] - Quote
JohnDS Wolf wrote:in all due seriousness, Corporations should be able to call FOUL and be able to (in some form or such) be able to punish such trechory with the up most scruteny. this behavor should NOT be enforced or alowed, HOWEVER, it should be able to "get away with" this behavior. please note that the Corporation should do this...not the devoloper. Unlike in EVE, you got the PSN account name of the traitor, and are free to hunt him/her characters down in-game.
Go extract your own revenge, the EVE way. |
JohnDS Wolf
Exit Wound Heavy Industries
10
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Posted - 2013.01.31 13:58:00 -
[98] - Quote
Rasatsu wrote:JohnDS Wolf wrote:in all due seriousness, Corporations should be able to call FOUL and be able to (in some form or such) be able to punish such trechory with the up most scruteny. this behavor should NOT be enforced or alowed, HOWEVER, it should be able to "get away with" this behavior. please note that the Corporation should do this...not the devoloper. Unlike in EVE, you got the PSN account name of the traitor, and are free to hunt him/her characters down in-game. Go extract your own revenge, the EVE way.
corporatespionage is a totaly different beast. just trolling the player isn't enuff. i think placing a bounty system for corporations to hunt down these guys would Awesome. Hell, Dust 514 units could be used to envade the leaders ship and kill the captain to claim the bounty would be even more awesome. you could even comader the ship as well as steal (some) ISK via this act. EvE and Dust 514, working together to screw over the galaxy. AWESOME. |
ortharius
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2013.01.31 14:22:00 -
[99] - Quote
thats why 2 psn accounts are a must if someone is a ashhole who steal corps of all assets and isk . he can make a empty corporation on one account . become a director on another account. steal money and join the corp of the first account transfer money and pouf he is rich |
JohnDS Wolf
Exit Wound Heavy Industries
10
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Posted - 2013.01.31 14:38:00 -
[100] - Quote
ortharius wrote:thats why 2 psn accounts are a must if someone is a ashhole who steal corps of all assets and isk . he can make a empty corporation on one account . become a director on another account. steal money and join the corp of the first account transfer money and pouf he is rich
and the corp would STILL know who the person is though. it wouldn't take much to put 2 and 2 together.
but talking about both EvE and Dust. a bounty system for Corps would be a way to bring justist...or atleast vengence. bounty corps would then take off as well. adding more chances at income to the game. |
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DeadMarley
Better Hide R Die
0
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Posted - 2013.01.31 21:36:00 -
[101] - Quote
Guiding Hand Social Club Heist April 2005 Alleged Take: 30 Billion ISK
Although not one of the most lucrative stunts pulled in Eve Online, the Guiding Hand Social Club heist deserves credit for involving an elaborate and meticulously executed act of espionage, unlike many Eve scams, which are essentially the equivalent of lending the keys to your apartment to a friend and coming home to find things missing. In this case, the Guiding Hand spent 10 months infiltrating the Ubiqua Seraph corporation, intent on targetting its CEO, Mirial. This effort was initiated on behalf of a client presumably seeking revenge on Mirial, and culminated with the destruction of Mirial's prize ship and escape pod, as well as the raiding of Ubiqua Seraph's corporate coffers.
Welcome to New Eden. |
Harken Torkal
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2013.01.31 23:54:00 -
[102] - Quote
Sentient Archon wrote:We need to come up with a standard on how much ISK a director can give out. It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account.
The way capsuleer corporations control risk is to move sensitive assets to holding corps, or use wallet divisions to control access to fund. There is an extensive role management and access control system in place. Perhaps the same sort of thing would be useful in DUST514?
Set up a holding corporation (use one of the other character slots), transfer your funds to that corporation, then only bring stuff back to the corp wallet when it is needed.
Welcome to the cold, harsh world of New Eden. |
Frost Reyfield
BetaMax.
5
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Posted - 2013.02.01 01:43:00 -
[103] - Quote
CCP Nullarbor wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account. This is awesome. (Welcome to New Eden)
<3
Now i feel DUST is a part of EVE
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Zat Earthshatter
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
304
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Posted - 2013.02.01 12:37:00 -
[104] - Quote
CCP Nullarbor wrote:This is awesome.
(Welcome to New Eden)
EVE universe and community in a nutshell. Not only is this type of behavior allowed, New Eden (and its denizens) practically beg you to act on your greed - every single second you are logged on. Take a can, trade a CONCORDOKKEN for some carebear's faction loot, and steal assets worth the equivalent of $29,000+ United States dollars. All this is within the bounds of EVE, and can be found nowhere else in the video game industry.
Yes, EVE got a Guinness for virtual theft. And as stated, perfectly legal within the game. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2013.02.01 14:13:00 -
[105] - Quote
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=200236&find=unread now it gets some real spot lighting. |
suzisage
Mercenaries on Demand
18
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Posted - 2013.02.02 09:08:00 -
[106] - Quote
Reading this thread caused me keep my corporation fund in my personal fund, even though i'm the ceo and there is no director. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2013.02.08 18:34:00 -
[107] - Quote
suzisage wrote:Reading this thread caused me keep my corporation fund in my personal fund, even though i'm the ceo and there is no director.
Smart man. |
Nara Vampira
Decapsulation Services
0
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Posted - 2013.02.20 23:21:00 -
[108] - Quote
ROFLing at this thread sooo hard.....Someone is really new to the world of New Eden or just is that oblivious to how things work. As a person with a Trader/scammer main in EVE i will personally congratulate your director for taking all of the ISK and running with it hahaha well done lad. Also read the EULA...it talks about us scammers.. LOL says somehting like...If you get scammed CCP wont help you :P |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2013.02.23 21:58:00 -
[109] - Quote
well I only give enough to help with corp battles for that day, until taxes become viable method in this game Ill keep donating in very small amounts. |
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