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Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
437
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Posted - 2013.01.29 09:56:00 -
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Still no info on how much was stolen, beyond the fact that it was probably more than 10 million ISK.
Not satisfied with the tears collected yet. |
Mycor IX
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
3
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Posted - 2013.01.29 11:35:00 -
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Soon enough there will be a deluge of tears to rellish in!
Its gonna be "awesome"! |
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions
136
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Posted - 2013.01.29 13:08:00 -
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So this is EVE after all, was worried there for a while
/c |
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Tolen Rosas
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
37
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Posted - 2013.01.29 13:13:00 -
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lololololol
welcome to EVE consoler! |
Gridboss
BetaMax.
185
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Posted - 2013.01.29 13:15:00 -
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I was wondering when this would happen. Took long enough.
Seriously don't give someone access to something if you can't trust them with it. Welcome to New Eden. Enjoy your stay. |
Rizmordan
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
3
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Posted - 2013.01.29 13:32:00 -
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I'll gladly donate a few million to my corp, it's not like it takes long to replace if you don't suck. |
Repe Susi
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
249
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Posted - 2013.01.29 13:44:00 -
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Kristoff Atruin wrote:If you want to recover from your setback you should send me whatever isk you have left. I'll double it in a week and send it back. Pizza promise.
I can vouch for this guy.
Before I met Kristoff, I had mere 100.000 isk on my account. Now I have millions and millions and beautiful model wife and it took only 3 days!
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JW v Weingarten
SyNergy Gaming
300
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Posted - 2013.01.29 14:02:00 -
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There is not a single word about theft from the op, just 1 guy assuming something and a dev believing the over excited guy. |
DJ WigglesGRN
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.01.29 14:07:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account. This is awesome. (Welcome to New Eden)
This makes me happy every time i see these types of comments :) the Eve Universe is not a nice kind fluffy place, its cold unforgiving and harsh. |
Makenshi Drakonen
Immobile Infantry
0
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Posted - 2013.01.29 15:17:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor said it best, Welcome to New Eden
Stealing, backstabbery and being a **** are a part of this game. If you can't deal with it then Harden the **** up |
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Vaerana Myshtana
ScIdama Endless Renaissance
205
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Posted - 2013.01.29 16:17:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:We need to come up with a standard on how much ISK a director can give out. It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account.
10 million ISK cap per day should be the max.
I know that people have made reference to this being normal in New Eden, but to be clear- it has already happened many, many, many times in EVE Online. In a couple of cases, major alliances (even coalitions of alliances) have been rocked by this.
It is such a common occurrence that CCP even made a video about it:
http://www.eveonline.com/creations/videos/causality-trailer/ |
Isarian Menoptra
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
85
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Posted - 2013.01.29 17:40:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account. This is awesome. (Welcome to New Eden)
Bring on the tears! But roles will be nice as well. |
Snuggl3s
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.01.29 18:16:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account. This is awesome. (Welcome to New Eden)
Bwahahahaa CCP Nullabor you sir made my day. If i see you I'm buying you a beer at FanFest :D |
Koren Ellens
DUST University Ivy League
12
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Posted - 2013.01.29 18:29:00 -
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HTFU? Always related. |
Tien TheSecond
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
198
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Posted - 2013.01.29 19:29:00 -
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This made me smile, then lol. Who popped the corp robbing cherry, and why is this guy stupid enough to publicize it? |
Z3R0 GR4VITY
HavoK Core
35
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Posted - 2013.01.29 19:35:00 -
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CEO's just need to be more sensible and careful of who they choose for a director role.
-CASE CLOSED- |
YourDeadAgain76
Red Star.
133
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Posted - 2013.01.29 20:16:00 -
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JW v Weingarten wrote:There is not a single word about theft from the op, just 1 guy assuming something and a dev believing the over excited guy.
+1 cant believe this thread still going on. LOL |
Villanor Aquarius
Shattered Ascension
79
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Posted - 2013.01.29 20:20:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Okay let me further interate, why should I not be able to give a corpie all the isk I could want? After all there will be equipment and items in dust 514 that will eventually cost multiple billions of isk. Such as going out to purchase an entire base or an anti-capital ship sky fire battery.
As for your response.
Part of the game. All corp level decisions are made my the CEO. If the CEO wants to give someone a billion isk it is his prerogative. Lackies dont need that right.
Don't give lackies that right. That's why corp's that actually know what they are doing are very careful of who they give what roles too. Dust corps could use more roles and it'd be nice to see a role that can be given to dust players to allow them to accept dust apps to the corp and give them rights similar to eve. I would love to have eve corps able to make a dust wallet division and give access to it to a dust player.
TL;DR Don't give director privileges to disgruntled or otherwise untrustworthy people. And 10mil is inconsequential if money transfers will be allowed. |
Skaffeh
Black Nova Corp
1
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Posted - 2013.01.30 00:05:00 -
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Quote:In 2009, a player alliance known as Goonswarm was contacted by a disgruntled director of rival alliance Band of Brothers, one of the largest alliances in the game at that time. The defecting director then stripped Band of Brothers of a large quantity of assets including ships, money and territory, and disbanded the alliance.
Black Nova directors, Best directors.
<3 Haargoth |
Ender Storm
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
50
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Posted - 2013.01.30 01:27:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account. This is awesome. (Welcome to New Eden)
CCP Devs best Devs |
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Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2013.01.30 01:29:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:I think that this has finally happened Dust side is awesome.
That it happened to Sentient is not. I want him to be able to buy tanks so I can blow them up. Get in touch with me in game Archon.
I do think that we need some more discrete roles for Dust officers. The all or nothing role is a problem.
still confused as to why ppl think he got robbed no where did he say he got robbed
why do ppl assume so much (not just u kain but many others in this thread)
PS: come blow up my tanks |
Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous
SyNergy Gaming
242
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Posted - 2013.01.30 01:38:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Kain Spero wrote:I think that this has finally happened Dust side is awesome.
That it happened to Sentient is not. I want him to be able to buy tanks so I can blow them up. Get in touch with me in game Archon.
I do think that we need some more discrete roles for Dust officers. The all or nothing role is a problem. still confused as to why ppl think he got robbed no where did he say he got robbed why do ppl assume so much (not just u kain but many others in this thread) PS: come blow up my tanks
mob mentality, one person read into it and then it snowballed. Shows how eager people are for something like this to happen though...
And he isnt a CEO of a corp, it was a legit suggestion on his end. One that i disagree with, although new corp roles are coming out so that probably deals with the problem he was actually intending to address. So people can still set corp matches but not deal with money. |
CookieStein
G I A N T
62
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Posted - 2013.01.30 02:04:00 -
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So I take it between the few alliance denials here and the General thread that was locked that a theft didn't occur? Surely you guys can understand that between the language of his first two posts (and "my the CEO" makes absolutely no sense unless it was supposed to be 'me', hence the confusion as to him being CEO in the first place) and Mavado your own first comment "working as intended...." that the assumption that there was a theft was a pretty safe one.
Good luck in the damage control guys (I sincerely mean that) cause this thing snowballed fast.
Just a general comment, not pointing any fingers, people have to be careful and think about what they post, tweet, comment on etc. cause rumour and assumption can very easily get out of control. Something that was 'front page' news and then gets retracted never has as large an audience the second time around.
Choose your words carefully everyone, just saying. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2013.01.30 03:02:00 -
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CookieStein wrote:So I take it between the few alliance denials here and the General thread that was locked that a theft didn't occur? Surely you guys can understand that between the language of his first two posts (and "my the CEO" makes absolutely no sense unless it was supposed to be 'me', hence the confusion as to him being CEO in the first place) and Mavado your own first comment "working as intended...." that the assumption that there was a theft was a pretty safe one.
Good luck in the damage control guys (I sincerely mean that) cause this thing snowballed fast.
Just a general comment, not pointing any fingers, people have to be careful and think about what they post, tweet, comment on etc. cause rumour and assumption can very easily get out of control. Something that was 'front page' news and then gets retracted never has as large an audience the second time around.
Choose your words carefully everyone, just saying.
The problem is there is no way to prove it, they could have scrambled to get the isk back in to prevent lackies from confirming the story. Or removed role from one guy or forced him to give it back or else. Also asking the 'stupid question' or in this scenario 'the stupid suggestion' while I don't want to berate anyone in asking in the future it is just that the common generator of either is usually victimization, its extraordinarily rare that someone would go out of their way to test systems for exploits without some level of self gain. As for counter intel responses, they're quite typical as they do read the forums, analyze the on goings, and laugh just as hard and share with their friends when even at the suggestion of a screw up is brought to bear.
I know I got a few dozen red and black flags. The most prominent ones, 'do not promote with game mechanics' and 'cant' keep mouth shut.'
Overall... How best to deal with damage control for the future of your corpses in case you guys fall apart? Oddly enough, Lie. Pin blame on a specific person alt and delete him and make it a lesson learned and a warning for future ceo's and mercs. With no dust 514 api, you have the nice grace of no evidence ever being possible.
Anyways you're free to come up with others but suggesting that option now invalidates its use.
Welcome to New Eden politics.
btw developers have access to logs. |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
206
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Posted - 2013.01.30 03:10:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account. This is awesome. (Welcome to New Eden)
lol, devs have no pitty if you get screwed by another player |
Joe Dust
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.01.30 03:43:00 -
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So was anything taken? The world must know. |
Patoman Radiant
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
53
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Posted - 2013.01.30 04:16:00 -
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If it is your corp, and isk, keep the isk on a bank character only you have access too, and limit the isk in corp to 10-20 mil, remainder on bank character. |
BL4CK FRIAR
Defiant Kelkoons
17
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Posted - 2013.01.30 05:37:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account. This is awesome. (Welcome to New Eden) No its not!
Yes it is. First why are you dropping more then a few million into your corp wallet? Corp battles cost 1mil isk to launch, so why have more then two or three million isk in the pot at any given time. Second, why are you, as a corp player that helped win that corp battle, not demanding getting paid out? Third, if you are so worried about who has access to your corp wallet, why arent you vetting those people better? |
Natu Nobilis
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2013.01.30 19:17:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:We need to come up with a standard on how much ISK a director can give out. It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account. 10 million ISK cap per day should be the max. Edit: Leaving this is out here for those idiots who love to assume stuff.In 2009, a player alliance known as Goonswarm was contacted by a disgruntled director of rival alliance Band of Brothers, one of the largest alliances in the game at that time. The defecting director then stripped Band of Brothers of a large quantity of assets including ships, money and territory, and disbanded the alliance.
I miss the innocence of the newb in me when i read this. You are a cutie.
Prepare yourself to experience a lot of itneresting things on your journey in New Eden.
You are welcome.
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PAUL BERNARD
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
76
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Posted - 2013.01.30 20:03:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:We need to come up with a standard on how much ISK a director can give out. It is very easy for a disgruntled director to take all the money from the corp wallet and put it into his account. 10 million ISK cap per day should be the max. Edit: Leaving this is out here for those idiots who love to assume stuff.In 2009, a player alliance known as Goonswarm was contacted by a disgruntled director of rival alliance Band of Brothers, one of the largest alliances in the game at that time. The defecting director then stripped Band of Brothers of a large quantity of assets including ships, money and territory, and disbanded the alliance.
I am sorry man. However, fortunately for you, I have decided to quit this stupid game. Over my many months of playing I have accumulated hundreds of millions of isk, and I am giving it out to people who are serious about this game.
To show you serious, send me any amount of isk under 10 million and i will double it. Any amount higher than 10 million i will triple it |
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