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VonDred Dust
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:13:00 -
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I noticed games that are FPS with auto aim have a tendency to have very crappy game play because the player doesn't have to worry about skill level and just becomes a run and gun. All because they don't have to worry about aiming. By adding auto aim I could see this game just becoming another Halo or CoD multiplayer, where no one uses skill or tactics to complete the objectives. This also makes it so that the bigger weapon will always win cause newer players to shy away from the game because they will lose every time to an high level player. This sets the game up for failure due to the lack of experience a new player could be getting.
OK the idea of auto aim / aim assist is why don't i just stand still because hes going to hit me anyways due to the lack of no skill, oh and i play Controller on PC and have no problem raking up lead k/d and highest point scorer of the game. i just think if you want to get good, practice and don't rely a mechanic that removes the idea of using strategy over just becoming another COD.
So what this really boils down to is,
SAY NO TO AUTO AIM
oh and if there is auto aim when the game launches looks like i have another game on my list that i will have to drop.
OK, seeing that most of the people re-posting lack common sense, I'm saying if there's auto aim at launch I'm not playing. |
Karl Koekwaus
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
30
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:17:00 -
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You can turn it off if you don't like it. |
Jotun Hiem
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
412
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:18:00 -
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Does it even do anything? I can never tell the difference when it's on or off. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:20:00 -
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My client only seems to track dead or spawning people.
Other people's clients have aimbot mode as we like to call it.
Either way the feature is broken quite a bit. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1216
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:21:00 -
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Its effect is negligible, and only kicks in at hip-fire range. If you're worried about snipers getting assistance on their shots or something, don't be. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:24:00 -
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So because it might help people get kills easier, it eliminates any and all tactics needed to get objectives? I call hyperbole. |
Eugenic Prodigy
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
26
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:24:00 -
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Karl Koekwaus wrote:You can turn it off if you don't like it. ^ this^ |
Washlee
UnReaL.
131
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:28:00 -
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Aim assist doesn't work |
VonDred Dust
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:30:00 -
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Karl Koekwaus wrote:You can turn it off if you don't like it.
and this is why you shouldn't talk because I'm not talking about it ruining game play for me, I'm talking about it ruining game play in general because it doesn't take a lick of effort, stealth will no longer be worth attacking 5 guys because you only ever be able to take out one so you point is moot. |
Jotun Hiem
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
412
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:35:00 -
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VonDred Dust wrote:Karl Koekwaus wrote:You can turn it off if you don't like it. and this is why you shouldn't talk because I'm not talking about it ruining game play for me, I'm talking about it ruining game play in general because it doesn't take a lick of effort, stealth will no longer be worth attacking 5 guys because you only ever be able to take out one so you point is moot. But it doesn't hardly do anything. Seriously. I turn it on and off all the time and it doesn't feel like anything changes. |
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Yay Adski
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
133
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:35:00 -
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Personally I have mine turned off. |
Belzeebub Santana
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
409
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:39:00 -
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I know for sure MAG had aim assist not real sure what BF3 does but I think it has something. MAG is a staple of this community so I don't think aim assist matters. It's there for new players and really bad long term players, I find in all the games it has it in it's more of a hindrance than helpful.
To each his own, can I haz ur stuff? |
Enji Elric
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears
176
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:40:00 -
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Belzeebub Santana wrote:I know for sure MAG had aim assist not real sure what BF3 does but I think it has something. MAG is a staple of this community so I don't think aim assist matters. It's there for new players and really bad long term players, I find in all the games it has it in it's more of a hindrance than helpful.
To each his own, can I haz ur stuff? mag didnt have aim assist
the game costs like $5 used pick it up and try it before you talk **** |
Enji Elric
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Zombie Ninja Space Bears
176
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:42:00 -
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VonDred Dust wrote:Karl Koekwaus wrote:You can turn it off if you don't like it. and this is why you shouldn't talk because I'm not talking about it ruining game play for me, I'm talking about it ruining game play in general because it doesn't take a lick of effort, stealth will no longer be worth attacking 5 guys because you only ever be able to take out one so you point is moot. the entirety of this thread is moot
in the 7+ months these forums have been out, there just happens to be a huge drop in intelligent conversation since we went open beta
vondred you should really just use the search button |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
642
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:42:00 -
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The game has M+KB... which is basically point and click.
Using our thumbs to control the analog sticks are allot harder, hence every FPS on console has Aim assist. Some games have it tuned up allot, while others don't
If you don't like it, turn it off...
Basically people must go up against M+KB and NOT have the option to have aim assist?
logic ----> window |
Karl Koekwaus
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
30
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:44:00 -
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VonDred Dust wrote:Karl Koekwaus wrote:You can turn it off if you don't like it. and this is why you shouldn't talk because I'm not talking about it ruining game play for me, I'm talking about it ruining game play in general because it doesn't take a lick of effort, stealth will no longer be worth attacking 5 guys because you only ever be able to take out one so you point is moot.
So because you don't like it, it's a broken system?
seeing how it doesn't work on ADS and KB/M things, I see nothing wrong with it, since it only makes body shots (if it even works at all), using manual aim and being 1337, (what this thread really seems to be about) still prevails. |
Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
432
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:44:00 -
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VonDred Dust wrote:Karl Koekwaus wrote:You can turn it off if you don't like it. and this is why you shouldn't talk because I'm not talking about it ruining game play for me, I'm talking about it ruining game play in general because it doesn't take a lick of effort, stealth will no longer be worth attacking 5 guys because you only ever be able to take out one so you point is moot.
i totally understand your concern but know that it does not work and most turn it off. it is broken and we do not want it fixed. it made things worse for me, the tracking is late it tracks behind the target and it randomly decides what target it wants to track if someone comes accross the screen you dont want to aim for, trust me bro you're worried about something no one even uses. |
Fargen Icehole
SyNergy Gaming
67
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:49:00 -
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VonDred Dust wrote:Karl Koekwaus wrote:You can turn it off if you don't like it. and this is why you shouldn't talk because I'm not talking about it ruining game play for me, I'm talking about it ruining game play in general because it doesn't take a lick of effort, stealth will no longer be worth attacking 5 guys because you only ever be able to take out one so you point is moot.
So, because you can only take out ! guy after flanking a group.... it's the auto-aim's fault?!? Here's a hint: if you successfully flank a group and can only kill one guy, it's you, not the fact that they have auto-aim. Besides, as others have said, the auto-aim in this game is minimal, and not as bad as other games. |
Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
432
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:51:00 -
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Belzeebub Santana wrote:I know for sure MAG had aim assist not real sure what BF3 does but I think it has something. MAG is a staple of this community so I don't think aim assist matters. It's there for new players and really bad long term players, I find in all the games it has it in it's more of a hindrance than helpful.
To each his own, can I haz ur stuff?
all games have aim assist some are just better at having it in the background
this aim assist here is clunky i don't see how it actually assists anyone except for making them rage out when it late tracks the wrong targets
they need to just remove it, he's right no serious FPS players wants a blatant aim assist in there game whether it's broken or not, the only ppl who want it are PC players new to console |
Aighun
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
666
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:51:00 -
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This game has KBM support, and Move (sharp shooter) support, FFS.
Having a very slight aim assist (that might not even work) for controllers is a complete non-issue. |
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Jayquan18
The Southern Legion
42
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:53:00 -
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VonDred Dust wrote:
Ok, seeing that most of the people re-posting lack common sense, I'm saying if there's auto aim at launch I'm not playing.
Lol, good bye. No one cares. |
Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
432
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:56:00 -
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he is too worried about a broken mechanic tho |
Aighun
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
666
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:57:00 -
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Sobriety Denied wrote:Belzeebub Santana wrote:I know for sure MAG had aim assist not real sure what BF3 does but I think it has something. MAG is a staple of this community so I don't think aim assist matters. It's there for new players and really bad long term players, I find in all the games it has it in it's more of a hindrance than helpful.
To each his own, can I haz ur stuff? all games have aim assist some are just better at having it in the background this aim assist here is clunky i don't see how it actually assists anyone except for making them rage out when it late tracks the wrong targets they need to just remove it, he's right no serious FPS players wants a blatant aim assist in there game whether it's broken or not, the only ppl who want it are PC players new to console
Umm, no, those PC players will just use KBM. I am not one of them but they never asked for or expressed any interest in aim assist. As far as I can tell most PC players would rather have their left nut removed than use a controller for a FPS.
But good luck trying to fly a drop ship... with KBM...
Look, as far as I know, every single FPS on console has aim assist except for Halo.
It seems like they turned off the weird auto tracking thing in DUST, and I haven't noticed a difference with it on or off except when using some blaster or railgun turrets, where you will either hit something you shouldn't have or miss when should have hit...
Edit* also, to the OP, DUST 514 doesn't have auto aim, so guess we can't have your things after all? Ah well. |
DigiOps
DUST University Ivy League
85
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Posted - 2013.01.27 18:01:00 -
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You do realize most console shooters do use auto-aim, right? |
Buzzwords
Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION
416
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Posted - 2013.01.27 18:02:00 -
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Enji Elric wrote:Belzeebub Santana wrote:I know for sure MAG had aim assist not real sure what BF3 does but I think it has something. MAG is a staple of this community so I don't think aim assist matters. It's there for new players and really bad long term players, I find in all the games it has it in it's more of a hindrance than helpful.
To each his own, can I haz ur stuff? mag didnt have aim assist the game costs like $5 used pick it up and try it before you talk ****
Mag very likely had aim assist. or lemme put it this way, it 100% ABSOLUTELY had aim assist when used with a move.
almost every console FPS has aim assist. it's not about making it easy mode, or making it run and gun, or making it scrubby scrubby noskill time, it's about countering the loss of precision when switching from a mouse to an analogue stick.
get used to it. aim assist exists. if you REALLY believe you're so good at video games as to not need it, then why do you CARE? you must be good enough to win every time anyway. please go be awesome somewhere else. or at least be awesome quietly. |
Leither Yiltron
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
417
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Posted - 2013.01.27 18:06:00 -
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VonDred Dust wrote: oh and if there is auto aim when the game launches looks like i have another game on my list that i will have to drop.
Ok, seeing that most of the people re-posting lack common sense, I'm saying if there's auto aim at launch I'm not playing.
Can I have your stuff? |
Gunner Nightingale
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
215
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Posted - 2013.01.27 18:16:00 -
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EVERY I REPEAT EVERY FPS on Console has aim assist, NOT EVERY GAME give you the option to turn it off why?
Because controllers are soooo inaccurate without them, ask any PC FPSer about controllers and they tell you they have aim assist PC side why because they would get murdered without them. Why on console because they are nowhere near as precise without them and players who have their sensitivity ramped up to maximize turn speed but lack twitch control to aim with them would get slaughtered without them..
Lulz that his gripe is over aim assist not KB/M. KB which has ridiculous strafe characteristics that the analogs sticks CAN"T DO.
Lulz that most gaming mice allow for DPI changes on the fly(love my corsair M60) that lets me pick off headshots(when i was using an AR before i earned my M.D.) like a PRO.
Lulz that i use move navigation controller with my mouse so i get the best of both worlds in a streamlined setup and keep a DS3 and for vehicles and adding a KB soon for other situations. Yea im that guy!
Seriously AIM ASSIST, oh no wait AUTO AIM(LMFAO). If a guy turns around like a spinning top and kills me super quick i dont think auto aim i think mouse.
Sad people just haven't caught onto the trend, the second i knew KB/M was supported in this game it was purchased lickity split.
Those who think that DS3 users cant compete i point you to the IMPERFECTS and many other top players but i know what many IMPS use, specifically Doug Ugly, DS3 user and can solo that dreaded crowd of 4 head on with 2 heavies in that mix and still walk away like a boss.
/thread.
When we up in da Barge, All Eyez on us, all eyez on usGǪGǪ You are now now rockin with I M Perfects and IMPSwarm b itch!!
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Red Dot 24601-HA
S.e.V.e.N.
36
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Posted - 2013.01.27 18:17:00 -
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Just want to say that it is AIM ASSIST not auto aim. Auto aim is what metal gear online had. The aim assist in this game is weak. and no MAG did not have aim assist! Stop blaming your failure on others... |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1904
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Posted - 2013.01.27 18:22:00 -
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VonDred Dust wrote:Karl Koekwaus wrote:You can turn it off if you don't like it. and this is why you shouldn't talk because I'm not talking about it ruining game play for me, I'm talking about it ruining game play in general because it doesn't take a lick of effort, stealth will no longer be worth attacking 5 guys because you only ever be able to take out one so you point is moot.
::Reloads militia shotgun after ghosting up on and smoking 4-5 reds::
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Moejoe Omnipotent
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
241
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Posted - 2013.01.27 19:47:00 -
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Aim assist is needed to counter the advantage mouse users have over everyone else. The gunplay is also already pretty awkward and slow and the aim assist helps speed things up a bit. |
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Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2013.01.27 19:50:00 -
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If you have aim assist on then I have no respect for you |
Anuliadon Gortusk
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
26
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Posted - 2013.01.27 19:51:00 -
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i always turn aim assist off figured most people did, but apparently not from this thread response. Aim assist to me isnt the issue but kb/m is, but alas we are stuck with it |
James-5955
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
151
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Posted - 2013.01.27 19:59:00 -
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Skill > Auto aim
Basically what I'm saying is I don't care if it has aim assist in it. I don't feel that it does enough to make much of a difference. Once you get good enough at aiming it eventually becomes a bit more of a hindrance to ones performance than anything. Like when scanning over to your target while ADSed, when you get near them you might realize that there's a bit of a pull that can throw you off. Or when aiming at a group of enemies, wanting to focus on one and having it move your sights between the enemies.
The only thing I find it good for in most games is spotting enemies in bushes or other foliage. |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2013.01.27 20:02:00 -
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VonDred Dust wrote:I noticed games that are FPS with auto aim have a tendency to have very crappy game play because the player doesn't have to worry about skill level and just becomes a run and gun. All because they don't have to worry about aiming. By adding auto aim I could see this game just becoming another Halo or CoD multiplayer, where no one uses skill or tactics to complete the objectives. This also makes it so that the bigger weapon will always win cause newer players to shy away from the game because they will lose every time to an high level player. This sets the game up for failure due to the lack of experience a new player could be getting.
So what this really boils down to is,
SAY NO TO AUTO AIM
oh and if there is auto aim when the game launches looks like i have another game on my list that i will have to drop.
Ok, seeing that most of the people re-posting lack common sense, I'm saying if there's auto aim at launch I'm not playing.
There's the door on your way out. |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2013.01.27 20:03:00 -
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4447 wrote:VonDred Dust wrote:I noticed games that are FPS with auto aim have a tendency to have very crappy game play because the player doesn't have to worry about skill level and just becomes a run and gun. All because they don't have to worry about aiming. By adding auto aim I could see this game just becoming another Halo or CoD multiplayer, where no one uses skill or tactics to complete the objectives. This also makes it so that the bigger weapon will always win cause newer players to shy away from the game because they will lose every time to an high level player. This sets the game up for failure due to the lack of experience a new player could be getting.
So what this really boils down to is,
SAY NO TO AUTO AIM
oh and if there is auto aim when the game launches looks like i have another game on my list that i will have to drop.
Ok, seeing that most of the people re-posting lack common sense, I'm saying if there's auto aim at launch I'm not playing. There's the door on your way out.
i don't think you said it correctly |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
92
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Posted - 2013.01.27 20:06:00 -
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the only thing it "helps" at all is shotguns, but usually it doesn't even help me, it just throws me off because of how ill try and control the gun manually but then ill get a little tug throwing the gun off center thus preventing a one shot kill. really this whole thread is a joke "dust 514 isn't arma II so im gonna drop it" useless...... |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
414
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Posted - 2013.01.27 20:11:00 -
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One common form of aim assist only slows movement when near a target, so it lowers sensitivity down when almost there for more precision.
Dust has had aim assist since June, we had option to turn it off later. I aim better with it off, I'm not that good so most of the skilled players will have it shut off. More for casual players to not get slaughtered as bad, when they play dust after playing a bunch of non-fps games. |
Knarf Black
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
397
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Posted - 2013.01.27 20:38:00 -
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Aim assist is a necessity for console FPS games. If Dust's wasn't so shoddy, I'd say it needs to be cranked up a notch to help the DS3s compete with M&K.
Play FEAR 3 or Crysis (on console) for a minute after playing Dust; it's insane. ADS practically drags your cursor onto the enemy. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1593
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Posted - 2013.01.27 20:42:00 -
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I've been doing just fine without the aim assist. When I turned it on, I think it actually hindered me. I get close to my targets all the time and I don't think it works. In fact, I don't want to see it fixed either. Leave it the way it is. |
Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
432
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Posted - 2013.01.27 20:49:00 -
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perhaps i go kbm when they offer full remap support but there's the benefit of comfort with the DS3 and it's rewarding to progress at. |
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AskuII Legend
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC
7
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Posted - 2013.01.27 20:55:00 -
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If you turn off aid in aiming, then you must disable the gaming mouse! Newbies will not be able to play on the joystick properly, so the meat is running on map! |
Belzeebub Santana
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
409
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Posted - 2013.01.27 21:25:00 -
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Enji Elric wrote:Belzeebub Santana wrote:I know for sure MAG had aim assist not real sure what BF3 does but I think it has something. MAG is a staple of this community so I don't think aim assist matters. It's there for new players and really bad long term players, I find in all the games it has it in it's more of a hindrance than helpful.
To each his own, can I haz ur stuff? mag didnt have aim assist the game costs like $5 used pick it up and try it before you talk ****
Lol, what happens when you assume? You make an "ass outta u and me". I have paid for MAG twice, (one got stolen along with all my games and a PS3 fat boy), I was in Beta for it, it's the only game I have cared to platinum, so I know a thing or two about MAG. There is aim assist and if you never noticed it then I'm sorry that you're not that aware. And yes the Move aim assist on that game was WAY worse than with a DS3, but was still the most fun way to play the game and I cant wait for CCP to do a better job with it so I can pick it up again. I'm a gluten for punishment, played so many types of FPS and TPS shooters on and off the PC that a new control scheme is what really gets me coming back to FPS, makes it more of a challenge.
Get to work on the SHARP SHOOTER CCP!!!
EDIT: my corp is also a MAG clan!!! |
Aighun
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
666
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Posted - 2013.01.27 22:03:00 -
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Belzeebub Santana wrote:
... I'm a gluten for punishment, played so many types of FPS and TPS shooters on and off the PC that a new control scheme is what really gets me coming back to FPS, makes it more of a challenge.
Get to work on the SHARP SHOOTER CCP!!!
EDIT: my corp is also a MAG clan!!!
I have been trying out gluten free punishment recently and that has really helped my video game digestion of late...
But yeah, I want to try the sharp shooter, but have been putting off getting one since there still seem to be a lot of problems with aiming using move.
But it would be a good thing if DUST were to develop a reputation for being one of the beter games to play with sharp shooter on the PS 3. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
72
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Posted - 2013.01.27 22:25:00 -
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I feel bad for controller people when i walk over 5 of em with my KB/M setup, so even if they do use aim assist, i don't notice it because it cant track my sideways movement at all.
Though if i was forced to use the controller myself, idd be shooting at walls, birds, floortiles, air ...lots of air and allot of 1 inching behind the player i am targetting aand nading myself meanwhile...
I finished deadspace on PS3, i promptly bought deadspace 2 for PC afterwards....
Though i gotta say, if Dust was made for PC, we would have Aimbots, ESP, Wallhacks ruining the game and quite frankly, i take aim assist over cheaters anyday... |
Kalante Schiffer
UnReaL.
183
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Posted - 2013.01.27 22:26:00 -
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Enji Elric wrote:Belzeebub Santana wrote:I know for sure MAG had aim assist not real sure what BF3 does but I think it has something. MAG is a staple of this community so I don't think aim assist matters. It's there for new players and really bad long term players, I find in all the games it has it in it's more of a hindrance than helpful.
To each his own, can I haz ur stuff? mag didnt have aim assist the game costs like $5 used pick it up and try it before you talk **** true mag didnt have aim assist. How ironic that he has SVER as his clan name and doesnt know that mag does not utilize aim assist and then goes on talking sh*t. what a true piece of sh*t. |
VonDred Dust
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.01.28 04:09:00 -
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Enji Elric wrote:Belzeebub Santana wrote:I know for sure MAG had aim assist not real sure what BF3 does but I think it has something. MAG is a staple of this community so I don't think aim assist matters. It's there for new players and really bad long term players, I find in all the games it has it in it's more of a hindrance than helpful.
To each his own, can I haz ur stuff? mag didnt have aim assist the game costs like $5 used pick it up and try it before you talk ****
Thank you thank you thank you you understand right |
VonDred Dust
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.01.28 04:11:00 -
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DigiOps wrote:You do realize most console shooters do use auto-aim, right?
yeah and i don't play most Console games. When i do play games on my computer I use a controller due to the disability of my hand. |
VonDred Dust
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.01.28 04:30:00 -
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Enji Elric wrote:VonDred Dust wrote:Karl Koekwaus wrote:You can turn it off if you don't like it. and this is why you shouldn't talk because I'm not talking about it ruining game play for me, I'm talking about it ruining game play in general because it doesn't take a lick of effort, stealth will no longer be worth attacking 5 guys because you only ever be able to take out one so you point is moot. the entirety of this thread is moot in the 7+ months these forums have been out, there just happens to be a huge drop in intelligent conversation since we went open beta vondred you should really just use the search button
Out of all the years of keeping auto aim out of games now it become a accustomed to have it in due to lack of skill in players.
letGÇÖs give a scenario you see a guy run into a door way, you chase after him when you go through the door all the player has to do is pull the trigger because itGÇÖs a small choke point and no matter which way you move his reticle will follow you . As to a game without auto aim you could go through the door and juke the player causing him to move his reticule the opposite way because in order for him to hit you, he has to aim, thus giving you a chance to get the kill.
DonGÇÖt reply with why donGÇÖt you chuck a grenade and such because IGÇÖm just setting up a scenario that everyone can understand and is simple to follow. If you do I will never take anything you say in this discussion seriously because all youGÇÖll do is overthink and you donGÇÖt look at the situation from an outside perspective.
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VonDred Dust
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.01.28 04:33:00 -
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Sobriety Denied wrote:he is too worried about a broken mechanic tho
not worried about a broken mechanic because its not going to be physically broken at launch. |
VonDred Dust
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.01.28 04:44:00 -
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Fargen Icehole wrote:VonDred Dust wrote:Karl Koekwaus wrote:You can turn it off if you don't like it. and this is why you shouldn't talk because I'm not talking about it ruining game play for me, I'm talking about it ruining game play in general because it doesn't take a lick of effort, stealth will no longer be worth attacking 5 guys because you only ever be able to take out one so you point is moot. So, because you can only take out ! guy after flanking a group.... it's the auto-aim's fault?!? Here's a hint: if you successfully flank a group and can only kill one guy, it's you, not the fact that they have auto-aim. Besides, as others have said, the auto-aim in this game is minimal, and not as bad as other games.
OK lets put it this way how do you out maneuver someone with auto aim, the answer is you can can't. Where in MAG I could out maneuver like 5 guys at once with out retreating, plus I think using auto aim in general is like saying lets play a fighting game but I'm going to set my handicap to 10 and you set yours to 2 so that way it wont be hard for me. Plus if you really wanna see auto aim destroy a multi-player play Max Payne 3. |
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VonDred Dust
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.01.28 04:45:00 -
[51] - Quote
Red Dot 24601-HA wrote:Just want to say that it is AIM ASSIST not auto aim. Auto aim is what metal gear online had. The aim assist in this game is weak. and no MAG did not have aim assist! Stop blaming your failure on others...
Same thing, plus I think its just another way of people not putting any effort into playing video games anymore. |
VonDred Dust
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.01.28 04:49:00 -
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Aighun wrote:Sobriety Denied wrote:Belzeebub Santana wrote:I know for sure MAG had aim assist not real sure what BF3 does but I think it has something. MAG is a staple of this community so I don't think aim assist matters. It's there for new players and really bad long term players, I find in all the games it has it in it's more of a hindrance than helpful.
To each his own, can I haz ur stuff? all games have aim assist some are just better at having it in the background this aim assist here is clunky i don't see how it actually assists anyone except for making them rage out when it late tracks the wrong targets they need to just remove it, he's right no serious FPS players wants a blatant aim assist in there game whether it's broken or not, the only ppl who want it are PC players new to console Umm, no, those PC players will just use KBM. I am not one of them but they never asked for or expressed any interest in aim assist. As far as I can tell most PC players would rather have their left nut removed than use a controller for a FPS. But good luck trying to fly a drop ship... with KBM... Look, as far as I know, every single FPS on console has aim assist except for Halo. It seems like they turned off the weird auto tracking thing in DUST, and I haven't noticed a difference with it on or off except when using some blaster or railgun turrets, where you will either hit something you shouldn't have or miss when should have hit... Edit* also, to the OP, DUST 514 doesn't have auto aim, so guess we can't have your things after all? Ah well.
Halo 1 does not while all the rest do you just cant turn it off.
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Jotun Hiem
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
412
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Posted - 2013.01.28 04:54:00 -
[53] - Quote
VonDred Dust wrote:letGÇÖs give a scenario you see a guy run into a door way, you chase after him when you go through the door all the player has to do is pull the trigger because itGÇÖs a small choke point and no matter which way you move his reticle will follow you . As to a game without auto aim you could go through the door and juke the player causing him to move his reticule the opposite way because in order for him to hit you, he has to aim, thus giving you a chance to get the kill.
You've obviously never played TF2 before.
Or really any game with a very proficient low-range class. |
Sete Clifton
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
67
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Posted - 2013.01.28 05:00:00 -
[54] - Quote
Aim assist does not mean that your aim will "snap" to targets like call of duty, nor will it completely track a target without you having to do anything. It's supposed to smooth out the little imperfections that come with using an analog stick, and not make playing a console game a frustrating chore. It's a feature that is supposed to be subtle enough that you don't notice it, and I can tell you I definitely don't notice it in Dust, as it appears to do next to nothing right now.
Honestly, just about every console shooter has some form of aim assist to compensate for the lack of precision in an analog stick. I personally think it's more unfair to have people with controllers play against M/KB, but I deal with it. This is a console game first and foremost, not a PC game, it should play by console rules first. |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
649
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Posted - 2013.01.28 09:29:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:4447 wrote:VonDred Dust wrote:I noticed games that are FPS with auto aim have a tendency to have very crappy game play because the player doesn't have to worry about skill level and just becomes a run and gun. All because they don't have to worry about aiming. By adding auto aim I could see this game just becoming another Halo or CoD multiplayer, where no one uses skill or tactics to complete the objectives. This also makes it so that the bigger weapon will always win cause newer players to shy away from the game because they will lose every time to an high level player. This sets the game up for failure due to the lack of experience a new player could be getting.
So what this really boils down to is,
SAY NO TO AUTO AIM
oh and if there is auto aim when the game launches looks like i have another game on my list that i will have to drop.
Ok, seeing that most of the people re-posting lack common sense, I'm saying if there's auto aim at launch I'm not playing. There's the door on your way out. i don't think you said it correctly
I think i was half asleep when writing |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2013.01.28 10:32:00 -
[56] - Quote
YAY! Another thread where people don't know the difference between auto-aim and aim assist!
No, not all of you, but a few seem to be using the terms interchangeably. They're similar concepts, basically opposite approaches to the same problem.
Also, they aren't clearly defined in an "official" sense as to which is which.
Many (not all, and not even most) console shooters have auto aim. Most console shooters with auto-aim have the option to turn it off.
Most (almost all) console shooters have aim assist, INCLUDING the ones with auto-aim. Very few games allow you to disable aim assist.
So what's the difference? One is an "active" system and the other is "passive".
Auto aim lets you RELEASE the right stick and the game will track a target for you, turning your character to follow an enemy's movement. Depending on the movement speed and the strength of auto aim, you may or may not need to pay attention. A fast-moving opponent will often move faster than auto aim tracks, allowing them to evade unless you manually turn along with the assistance provided by the auto aim.
Aim assist simply adjusts the sensitivity of your stick as you move towards or away from a target. When you're turning normally, you turn at your normal speed. When an enemy is close to your crosshairs, you turn slightly faster than usual towards the enemy, and slightly slower when turning away. With this kind of aim assist, "wiggling" the stick back and forth while a target is moving - but only when they're moving slowly - will track the enemy for you, but not as accurately as auto-aim does, and you still need to be paying attention. |
new hulk
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
49
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Posted - 2013.01.28 10:45:00 -
[57] - Quote
Lol |
Chibi Andy
Celtic Anarchy
38
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Posted - 2013.01.28 10:59:00 -
[58] - Quote
Washlee wrote:Aim assist doesn't work
yes tell that to the OP who believes auto-aim magically works |
semperfi1999
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
317
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Posted - 2013.01.28 14:57:00 -
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Enji Elric wrote:Belzeebub Santana wrote:I know for sure MAG had aim assist not real sure what BF3 does but I think it has something. MAG is a staple of this community so I don't think aim assist matters. It's there for new players and really bad long term players, I find in all the games it has it in it's more of a hindrance than helpful.
To each his own, can I haz ur stuff? mag didnt have aim assist the game costs like $5 used pick it up and try it before you talk ****
Yes MAG had a slight aim assist. Almost all games have a slight aim assist for console shooters. Its just the lvl of aim assist. Ppl hear aim assist and assume COD because COD aim assist is very very strong. THis game and MAG as well has aim assist but the assist it pretty weak compared to most games (MAGs was even stronger than dusts).
I love all the people yelling that MAG did not have aim assist. I had over 1500 hours of playtime on MAG which multiple chars. YES mag had aim assist...it was slight but it was there....and there was not an option to turn it off. |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
680
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Posted - 2013.01.28 15:05:00 -
[60] - Quote
Scrambler Pistols shoot where you're aiming at (typically) -- while SMGs spray, which means that while it's not as accurate, it doesn't need to be. It's not going where I'm pointing the kittening thing anyway. Drops the DPS compared to a good line of fire Scrambler, but when you're moonwalking around your opponent while he's trying to circle-strafe you it helps to not need to point it right at the guy.
It's all about knowing your weapons & your opponent. If you see some guy hiding in the hills and you run at him screaming jihad don't be surprised when he blows your head off or melts through you with a laser rifle. You spot a heavy running arround with a BFG? Don't run in front of him, get behind him and say hello with a grenade first. What's that zippy thing with a shotgun? I've got no idea but if you aren't using cover it might kill you with one shot. |
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Rascalz 819
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.01.28 15:17:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:The game has M+KB... which is basically point and click. Using our thumbs to control the analog sticks are allot harder, hence every FPS on console has Aim assist. Some games have it tuned up allot, while others don't If you don't like it, turn it off... Basically people must go up against M+KB and NOT have the option to have aim assist? logic ----> window
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GarryKE
Omnispace Trading Company
60
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Posted - 2013.01.28 15:24:00 -
[62] - Quote
You can hardly see it work. Your own cross hair needs to more or less touch the target, or be very close to thereof, for it to track opponents. Quite frankly, it's not really a matter of if you can't kill someone with auto aim. It's more a matter of you might as well not bother. I remember trying it just after the last reset for a couple matches and there's really no significant difference worth the complaining.
If anything, it just helps keep the target in your cross-hairs if you have unsteady or shaky hands, especially when moving it up, down and around with all the jumping, running and ducking people do to win the fist fights.
If people insist on whining about it because they keep dying to people better than them giving them suspicion they're auto aimers, then you could say CCP should implement a tracking system into this mechanism in feedback/requests to make it more fairer. But ultimately, it's not worth the bother. |
I HateMyFace
BetaMax.
13
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Posted - 2013.01.28 15:37:00 -
[63] - Quote
The first thing i do when i start up a new game is check out the options. First thing i did in dust was turn off auto aim. Didnt know anyone used it. |
Nazz'Dragg
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
6
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Posted - 2013.01.28 16:26:00 -
[64] - Quote
VonDred Dust wrote:I noticed games that are FPS with auto aim have a tendency to have very crappy game play because the player doesn't have to worry about skill level and just becomes a run and gun. All because they don't have to worry about aiming. By adding auto aim I could see this game just becoming another Halo or CoD multiplayer, where no one uses skill or tactics to complete the objectives. This also makes it so that the bigger weapon will always win cause newer players to shy away from the game because they will lose every time to an high level player. This sets the game up for failure due to the lack of experience a new player could be getting.
OK the idea of auto aim / aim assist is why don't i just stand still because hes going to hit me anyways due to the lack of no skill, oh and i play Controller on PC and have no problem raking up lead k/d and highest point scorer of the game. i just think if you want to get good, practice and don't rely a mechanic that removes the idea of using strategy over just becoming another COD.
So what this really boils down to is,
SAY NO TO AUTO AIM
oh and if there is auto aim when the game launches looks like i have another game on my list that i will have to drop.
OK, seeing that most of the people re-posting lack common sense, I'm saying if there's auto aim at launch I'm not playing.
I'm still scratching my head as to what this auto aim feature YOUR GOING ON ABOUT is....
There is no feature that steadies or positions your aim. If there was I'd really like to know how to turn it on, as believe it or not I've failed a few times to get direct hits with a shotgun at almost point blank range!
There is feature which I take as the games aim assist, which pops up when your actively firing your weapon of choice. what happens is these four diagonal lines in an X like shape appear, (which I presume to mark the four corners of targets hit box). Alas since this only appear when only when your actively firing your weapon at a player, I've always to busy to make an active assecement of what they do exactly.
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BigussDikkuss
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
42
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Posted - 2013.01.28 16:32:00 -
[65] - Quote
Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:If you don't like it, turn it off...
Throughout this thread I keep reading this.
Ummm...
YOU CAN'T TURN IT OFF FOR PEOPLE USING IT AGAINST YOU MORONS!
Sheesh. Some people...
That said...I have no idea what Aim Assist really does. |
Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
460
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Posted - 2013.01.28 16:36:00 -
[66] - Quote
KB+M doesn't have aim assist
and if you don't use that you might as well be playing with one hand. |
Treemugger
I mug trees.
34
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Posted - 2013.01.28 16:40:00 -
[67] - Quote
Nazz'Dragg wrote:There is feature which I take as the games aim assist, which pops up when your actively firing your weapon of choice. what happens is these four diagonal lines in an X like shape appear, (which I presume to mark the four corners of targets hit box). Alas since this only appear when only when your actively firing your weapon at a player, I've always to busy to make an active assecement of what they do exactly. Those are hitmarkers. They indicate a successful hit.
There is aim-assist, as there is in most console shooters. It changes the direction you're aiming ever so slightly. |
Beld Errmon
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
479
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Posted - 2013.01.28 16:42:00 -
[68] - Quote
INB4 thread turns into console kiddies whining about elitist PC gamers using KB/M. |
James-5955
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
151
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Posted - 2013.01.28 16:49:00 -
[69] - Quote
BigussDikkuss wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:If you don't like it, turn it off... Throughout this thread I keep reading this. Ummm... YOU CAN'T TURN IT OFF FOR PEOPLE USING IT AGAINST YOU MORONS! Sheesh. Some people... That said...I have no idea what Aim Assist really does.
It still doesn't even out the playing field, skill still dominates no problem. It's not like you might as well not strafe in a gunfight because the other player has auto aim, or that you might as well stand still; or that you can't still beat the person in a gunfight. A lot of people turn it off because they find it to be more hindering than helpful. |
Perseus Gallento
Mikwon Dynamics
12
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:03:00 -
[70] - Quote
Treemugger wrote:Nazz'Dragg wrote:There is feature which I take as the games aim assist, which pops up when your actively firing your weapon of choice. what happens is these four diagonal lines in an X like shape appear, (which I presume to mark the four corners of targets hit box). Alas since this only appear when only when your actively firing your weapon at a player, I've always to busy to make an active assecement of what they do exactly. Those are hitmarkers. They indicate a successful hit. There is aim-assist, as there is in most console shooters. It changes the direction you're aiming ever so slightly.
The name of the option, as this poster states, is Aim Assist, not Auto Aim. I have attempted to use Aim Assist, but until recently, I could not tell the difference. Now after several months, I finally noticed it seems to lower the x and y sensitivity on the fly while you are aiming (holding down L1). So for hip fire, you get whatever your x-y sensitivity you set in options, and while aiming you get more fine control (less sensitivity). If any of you veterans know better, please explain. Thanks. |
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DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
288
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:32:00 -
[71] - Quote
I've flicked it on and off, seems to have a different affect on different characters. Last night on my alt, I could noticeably tell it slowed down when passing by a recently dead enemy, but I never noticed that on my main before.
I think the aim assist only does something for hip-fire, and all it seems to do it slow down the movement a bit when it's on a enemy. I am personally fine with this, as Dust doesn't have more controller sensitivity options (like separate turning speeds for ADS and hip-fire or deadzone/acceleration settings).
If we had more options for our controls, then the aim-assist for hip-fire could be removed. For example, I could set my ADS speed to very slow with a small deadzone (this would allow me to be a bit sloppy with my stick movement without getting too far off target). Then I could set my main turning speed to high with a moderate deadzone (this way I can turn around quickly if I pin my stick in either direction, yet still be able to have controllable precision for hip-firing enemies by manipulating the middle to near-outer zone of the stick).
When you think about it, the aim assist is really just a cheap way to not give the players more controller sensitivity options. Because it allows for fast turning speeds but it slows down on the enemy, which gives somewhat manageable control. I know when I turn off the assist, I am flying past the enemy big time for hip-fire, and I have my sensitivity set to 0 across the board! |
Eugenic Prodigy
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
26
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:33:00 -
[72] - Quote
Belzeebub Santana wrote:I'm a gluten for punishment, played so many types of FPS and TPS shooters on and off the PC that a new control scheme is what really gets me coming back to FPS, makes it more of a challenge.
Get to work on the SHARP SHOOTER CCP!!!
EDIT: my corp is also a MAG clan!!! I think the REAL Beelzebub would know the difference between gluten and a glutton, I'll bet you don't even have a tail or horns. Hmph (wasprobablyautocorrectamiright?)
I'll have to agree that the auto aim is quite U.P., it needs a buff please{ I'm kitten kidding} |
Commander Tuna
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
7
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Posted - 2013.01.28 18:43:00 -
[73] - Quote
All these mouse and keyboard elitists are pissing me off. Get off a console game then. Haven't noticed any huge differences between the 2 in this game. All the mouse users must really suck then. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
244
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Posted - 2013.02.09 04:51:00 -
[74] - Quote
Commander Tuna wrote:All these mouse and keyboard elitists are pissing me off. Get off a console game then. Haven't noticed any huge differences between the 2 in this game. All the mouse users must really suck then.
I haven't seen any of these "elitists", just people saying KBM has an advantage... which is true. Point & click is a lot easier than aiming with an analog stick. An elitist would be making fun of you for still using a DS3. Maybe you should work on your reading comprehension, or did you even read their posts at all?
Edit: I use a DS3 BTW and while I have never used a keyboard for a shooter, I have seen some friends use one. I also suck at shooters, that includes Dust, with or without aim assist. |
Sgt S-Laughter
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
22
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Posted - 2013.02.09 05:07:00 -
[75] - Quote
Every console shooter in existence has some degree of "aim assist." This is because the analog stick is not an ideal control device for precision aiming. Keyboard and Mouse is where it's at.
If you really think this "aim assist" is giving people headshots just for putting you in their field of vision, then I recommend you try with it on, and relate your experience with that. Do you feel like you're getting free kills with it on? Are you suddenly going 25:1? Or are you simply finding other people happen to be good at console shooters? |
Warchild Zek
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
28
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Posted - 2013.02.09 05:12:00 -
[76] - Quote
Like others have said every shooter with analog controls has aim assist. Even games that let you shut it off still have some. At a minimum they slow down the cursor when you get close to a target. There are like 2 no aim assist games you've never heard of from the ps1 era. They were horrible unplayable failures. The question is what type of aim assist's a game uses and how drastic is it. If you use analog you use aim assist. |
zeek1227 zeek1227
Blitzkrieg Co.
145
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Posted - 2013.02.09 06:38:00 -
[77] - Quote
Jotun Hiem wrote:Does it even do anything? I can never tell the difference when it's on or off. So true... |
Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
432
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Posted - 2013.02.09 08:26:00 -
[78] - Quote
Jotun Hiem wrote:Does it even do anything? I can never tell the difference when it's on or off. yea it tracks the wrong target and the tracking is late.. the OP is worried about something that is broken or that "works" very poorly.. my main tebow has a 2.24 kdr using DS3 and never had auto aim enabled, i've never once thought fighting someone, "oh he must have his auto aim enabled",
it does wave a big red flag tho to any potential player that this is some scrub game even if it is a broken aim assist they should have it removed if they have any dignity about the kinda game they wanna make |
Lonnar
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
15
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Posted - 2013.02.09 08:42:00 -
[79] - Quote
Geez ... nobody else has said it sadly.
Got a problem with Aim Assist? HTFU
You think you have skill? Show those Aim Assist kittens what skill is all about ... nuff said. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2013.02.09 08:46:00 -
[80] - Quote
Aim assist in this game blows...you cant tell if the game has it. It's like MAG's...as opposef to BF3, where aim assist is noticeable
Edit: Don't add more aim assist CCP |
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Sete Clifton
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
67
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Posted - 2013.02.09 09:06:00 -
[81] - Quote
All this complaining about aim assist on a controller in a console shooter (especially when they compete against KB+M) is just another example of out of touch with good modern shooter design so many people are on these forums.
For those of you who don't know what it is, please google it. Read about what it does and the various degrees to which it is used. Then play Dust with a DS3 and AA on, you'll see it is absolutely not something that aims for you or auto kills.
Honestly, KB+M on a console shooter is way more of an imbalance (not even really that bad though) but I deal with it. So, aim assist, deal with it. |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens
168
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Posted - 2013.02.09 09:12:00 -
[82] - Quote
Sete Clifton wrote:Aim assist does not mean that your aim will "snap" to targets like call of duty, nor will it completely track a target without you having to do anything. It's supposed to smooth out the little imperfections that come with using an analog stick, and not make playing a console game a frustrating chore. It's a feature that is supposed to be subtle enough that you don't notice it, and I can tell you I definitely don't notice it in Dust, as it appears to do next to nothing right now.
Honestly, just about every console shooter has some form of aim assist to compensate for the lack of precision in an analog stick. I personally think it's more unfair to have people with controllers play against M/KB, but I deal with it. This is a console game first and foremost, not a PC game, it should play by console rules first.
Actually, the turn rate of the mouse has a limiter on it to slow it down to something closer to what's possible for a DS3. This was broken in the last build, but they've fixed it in this one. I can't snap a 180 now like I could in the last build. As for strafing, I haven't noticed any difference in strafe maneuver capability between DS3 and KB.
As for Aim Assist. It actually hindered my ability to aim when I had it on. I thought it was a game bug. Then when I found out I could turn it off, I did, and then I didn't care about it anymore. If it helps a less skilled player keep up better, then great for them. I'm up for the challenge. |
Sete Clifton
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
67
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Posted - 2013.02.09 09:18:00 -
[83] - Quote
Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:Sete Clifton wrote:Aim assist does not mean that your aim will "snap" to targets like call of duty, nor will it completely track a target without you having to do anything. It's supposed to smooth out the little imperfections that come with using an analog stick, and not make playing a console game a frustrating chore. It's a feature that is supposed to be subtle enough that you don't notice it, and I can tell you I definitely don't notice it in Dust, as it appears to do next to nothing right now.
Honestly, just about every console shooter has some form of aim assist to compensate for the lack of precision in an analog stick. I personally think it's more unfair to have people with controllers play against M/KB, but I deal with it. This is a console game first and foremost, not a PC game, it should play by console rules first. Actually, the turn rate of the mouse has a limiter on it to slow it down to something closer to what's possible for a DS3. This was broken in the last build, but they've fixed it in this one. I can't snap a 180 now like I could in the last build. As for strafing, I haven't noticed any difference in strafe maneuver capability between DS3 and KB. As for Aim Assist. It actually hindered my ability to aim when I had it on. I thought it was a game bug. Then when I found out I could turn it off, I did, and then I didn't care about it anymore. If it helps a less skilled player keep up better, then great for them. I'm up for the challenge. Yeah, I tried KB+M recently and found it fairly slow as well. The advantage though is that it can be much more precise than a controller, especially when it comes to close range hip fire and long range tracking.
Anyway, I can understand people not wanting to use aim assist because they feel like they can play better with it off. All this talk of aim assist breaking the game in favor of its users is ridiculous though.
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Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens
168
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Posted - 2013.02.09 09:26:00 -
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Sete Clifton wrote:Shijima Kuraimaru wrote:Sete Clifton wrote:Aim assist does not mean that your aim will "snap" to targets like call of duty, nor will it completely track a target without you having to do anything. It's supposed to smooth out the little imperfections that come with using an analog stick, and not make playing a console game a frustrating chore. It's a feature that is supposed to be subtle enough that you don't notice it, and I can tell you I definitely don't notice it in Dust, as it appears to do next to nothing right now.
Honestly, just about every console shooter has some form of aim assist to compensate for the lack of precision in an analog stick. I personally think it's more unfair to have people with controllers play against M/KB, but I deal with it. This is a console game first and foremost, not a PC game, it should play by console rules first. Actually, the turn rate of the mouse has a limiter on it to slow it down to something closer to what's possible for a DS3. This was broken in the last build, but they've fixed it in this one. I can't snap a 180 now like I could in the last build. As for strafing, I haven't noticed any difference in strafe maneuver capability between DS3 and KB. As for Aim Assist. It actually hindered my ability to aim when I had it on. I thought it was a game bug. Then when I found out I could turn it off, I did, and then I didn't care about it anymore. If it helps a less skilled player keep up better, then great for them. I'm up for the challenge. Yeah, I tried KB+M recently and found it fairly slow as well. The advantage though is that it can be much more precise than a controller, especially when it comes to close range hip fire and long range tracking. Anyway, I can understand people not wanting to use aim assist because they feel like they can play better with it off. All this talk of aim assist breaking the game in favor of its users is ridiculous though.
I agree with you there. I do have more refined aim with a mouse than with DS3, but then I have been playing PC FPS games since Castle Wolfenstein (no mouse support in early FPS games). But I can tell you that the DS3 really doesn't have much of a disadvantage. My son-in-law is just as good at aiming with a DS3 as I am with a mouse when it comes to FPS games on PS3 and X-360.
The only exception right now is in trying to get used to fresh new controllers where the springs on the sticks are still stiff. LOL |
WASTED MERC
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2013.02.09 09:27:00 -
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Jotun Hiem wrote:Does it even do anything? I can never tell the difference when it's on or off.
auto-aim is crap, i still miss a lot with it on and shooting people with a shotgun who dont move in the back at close range
I want auto-sim
SAY YES TO AUTO-AIM for crappy players like me who cant play FPS games |
usrevenge2
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.02.09 09:37:00 -
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having played shooters without auto aim, you are crazy to not want it. the earlier builds of dust didn't have the auto aim and combat was terrible basically 2 people saw each other and ran back and forth for 10 minutes hoping to kill the other, now when you see an enemy you can kill them in a decent length of time or die trying. |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens
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Posted - 2013.02.09 09:47:00 -
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usrevenge2 wrote:having played shooters without auto aim, you are crazy to not want it. the earlier builds of dust didn't have the auto aim and combat was terrible basically 2 people saw each other and ran back and forth for 10 minutes hoping to kill the other, now when you see an enemy you can kill them in a decent length of time or die trying.
It's Aim Assist, not auto-aim. |
Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
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Posted - 2013.02.09 10:01:00 -
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usrevenge2 wrote:having played shooters without auto aim, you are crazy to not want it. the earlier builds of dust didn't have the auto aim and combat was terrible basically 2 people saw each other and ran back and forth for 10 minutes hoping to kill the other, now when you see an enemy you can kill them in a decent length of time or die trying.
that was more because the hit detection sucked |
Beld Errmon
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.09 11:51:00 -
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usrevenge2 wrote:having played shooters without auto aim, you are crazy to not want it. the earlier builds of dust didn't have the auto aim and combat was terrible basically 2 people saw each other and ran back and forth for 10 minutes hoping to kill the other, now when you see an enemy you can kill them in a decent length of time or die trying.
I think that was just terrible hit detection rather then aim assist, although aim assist would have made the problem a lot worse considering you needed to lag shoot back then. |
icdedppul
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.09 17:25:00 -
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aim assist goes to center mass... which is actually a hinderance
ever try camping an uplink with a scrambler pistol getting your head shot lined up, having a guy spawn in and suddenly your reticle drops to the chest
very annoying turned it off |
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