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VonDred Dust
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:13:00 -
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I noticed games that are FPS with auto aim have a tendency to have very crappy game play because the player doesn't have to worry about skill level and just becomes a run and gun. All because they don't have to worry about aiming. By adding auto aim I could see this game just becoming another Halo or CoD multiplayer, where no one uses skill or tactics to complete the objectives. This also makes it so that the bigger weapon will always win cause newer players to shy away from the game because they will lose every time to an high level player. This sets the game up for failure due to the lack of experience a new player could be getting.
OK the idea of auto aim / aim assist is why don't i just stand still because hes going to hit me anyways due to the lack of no skill, oh and i play Controller on PC and have no problem raking up lead k/d and highest point scorer of the game. i just think if you want to get good, practice and don't rely a mechanic that removes the idea of using strategy over just becoming another COD.
So what this really boils down to is,
SAY NO TO AUTO AIM
oh and if there is auto aim when the game launches looks like i have another game on my list that i will have to drop.
OK, seeing that most of the people re-posting lack common sense, I'm saying if there's auto aim at launch I'm not playing. |
Karl Koekwaus
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:17:00 -
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You can turn it off if you don't like it. |
Jotun Hiem
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:18:00 -
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Does it even do anything? I can never tell the difference when it's on or off. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:20:00 -
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My client only seems to track dead or spawning people.
Other people's clients have aimbot mode as we like to call it.
Either way the feature is broken quite a bit. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:21:00 -
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Its effect is negligible, and only kicks in at hip-fire range. If you're worried about snipers getting assistance on their shots or something, don't be. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:24:00 -
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So because it might help people get kills easier, it eliminates any and all tactics needed to get objectives? I call hyperbole. |
Eugenic Prodigy
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:24:00 -
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Karl Koekwaus wrote:You can turn it off if you don't like it.
^ this^ |
Washlee
UnReaL.
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:28:00 -
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Aim assist doesn't work |
VonDred Dust
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:30:00 -
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Karl Koekwaus wrote:You can turn it off if you don't like it.
and this is why you shouldn't talk because I'm not talking about it ruining game play for me, I'm talking about it ruining game play in general because it doesn't take a lick of effort, stealth will no longer be worth attacking 5 guys because you only ever be able to take out one so you point is moot. |
Jotun Hiem
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
412
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:35:00 -
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VonDred Dust wrote:Karl Koekwaus wrote:You can turn it off if you don't like it. and this is why you shouldn't talk because I'm not talking about it ruining game play for me, I'm talking about it ruining game play in general because it doesn't take a lick of effort, stealth will no longer be worth attacking 5 guys because you only ever be able to take out one so you point is moot.
But it doesn't hardly do anything. Seriously. I turn it on and off all the time and it doesn't feel like anything changes. |
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Yay Adski
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:35:00 -
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Personally I have mine turned off. |
Belzeebub Santana
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
409
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:39:00 -
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I know for sure MAG had aim assist not real sure what BF3 does but I think it has something. MAG is a staple of this community so I don't think aim assist matters. It's there for new players and really bad long term players, I find in all the games it has it in it's more of a hindrance than helpful.
To each his own, can I haz ur stuff? |
Enji Elric
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Zombie Ninja Space Bears
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:40:00 -
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Belzeebub Santana wrote:I know for sure MAG had aim assist not real sure what BF3 does but I think it has something. MAG is a staple of this community so I don't think aim assist matters. It's there for new players and really bad long term players, I find in all the games it has it in it's more of a hindrance than helpful.
To each his own, can I haz ur stuff?
mag didnt have aim assist
the game costs like $5 used pick it up and try it before you talk **** |
Enji Elric
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Zombie Ninja Space Bears
176
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:42:00 -
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VonDred Dust wrote:Karl Koekwaus wrote:You can turn it off if you don't like it. and this is why you shouldn't talk because I'm not talking about it ruining game play for me, I'm talking about it ruining game play in general because it doesn't take a lick of effort, stealth will no longer be worth attacking 5 guys because you only ever be able to take out one so you point is moot.
the entirety of this thread is moot
in the 7+ months these forums have been out, there just happens to be a huge drop in intelligent conversation since we went open beta
vondred you should really just use the search button |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
642
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:42:00 -
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The game has M+KB... which is basically point and click.
Using our thumbs to control the analog sticks are allot harder, hence every FPS on console has Aim assist. Some games have it tuned up allot, while others don't
If you don't like it, turn it off... 
Basically people must go up against M+KB and NOT have the option to have aim assist?
logic ----> window |
Karl Koekwaus
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
30
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:44:00 -
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VonDred Dust wrote:Karl Koekwaus wrote:You can turn it off if you don't like it. and this is why you shouldn't talk because I'm not talking about it ruining game play for me, I'm talking about it ruining game play in general because it doesn't take a lick of effort, stealth will no longer be worth attacking 5 guys because you only ever be able to take out one so you point is moot.
So because you don't like it, it's a broken system?
seeing how it doesn't work on ADS and KB/M things, I see nothing wrong with it, since it only makes body shots (if it even works at all), using manual aim and being 1337, (what this thread really seems to be about) still prevails. |
Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
432
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:44:00 -
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VonDred Dust wrote:Karl Koekwaus wrote:You can turn it off if you don't like it. and this is why you shouldn't talk because I'm not talking about it ruining game play for me, I'm talking about it ruining game play in general because it doesn't take a lick of effort, stealth will no longer be worth attacking 5 guys because you only ever be able to take out one so you point is moot.
i totally understand your concern but know that it does not work and most turn it off. it is broken and we do not want it fixed. it made things worse for me, the tracking is late it tracks behind the target and it randomly decides what target it wants to track if someone comes accross the screen you dont want to aim for, trust me bro you're worried about something no one even uses. |
Fargen Icehole
SyNergy Gaming
67
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:49:00 -
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VonDred Dust wrote:Karl Koekwaus wrote:You can turn it off if you don't like it. and this is why you shouldn't talk because I'm not talking about it ruining game play for me, I'm talking about it ruining game play in general because it doesn't take a lick of effort, stealth will no longer be worth attacking 5 guys because you only ever be able to take out one so you point is moot.
So, because you can only take out ! guy after flanking a group.... it's the auto-aim's fault?!?
Here's a hint: if you successfully flank a group and can only kill one guy, it's you, not the fact that they have auto-aim.
Besides, as others have said, the auto-aim in this game is minimal, and not as bad as other games. |
Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
432
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:51:00 -
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Belzeebub Santana wrote:I know for sure MAG had aim assist not real sure what BF3 does but I think it has something. MAG is a staple of this community so I don't think aim assist matters. It's there for new players and really bad long term players, I find in all the games it has it in it's more of a hindrance than helpful.
To each his own, can I haz ur stuff?
all games have aim assist some are just better at having it in the background
this aim assist here is clunky i don't see how it actually assists anyone except for making them rage out when it late tracks the wrong targets
they need to just remove it, he's right no serious FPS players wants a blatant aim assist in there game whether it's broken or not, the only ppl who want it are PC players new to console |
Aighun
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
666
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:51:00 -
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This game has KBM support, and Move (sharp shooter) support, FFS.
Having a very slight aim assist (that might not even work) for controllers is a complete non-issue. |
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Jayquan18
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:53:00 -
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VonDred Dust wrote:
Ok, seeing that most of the people re-posting lack common sense, I'm saying if there's auto aim at launch I'm not playing.
Lol, good bye. No one cares. |
Sobriety Denied
Universal Allies Inc.
432
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:56:00 -
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he is too worried about a broken mechanic tho |
Aighun
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
666
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Posted - 2013.01.27 17:57:00 -
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Sobriety Denied wrote:Belzeebub Santana wrote:I know for sure MAG had aim assist not real sure what BF3 does but I think it has something. MAG is a staple of this community so I don't think aim assist matters. It's there for new players and really bad long term players, I find in all the games it has it in it's more of a hindrance than helpful.
To each his own, can I haz ur stuff? all games have aim assist some are just better at having it in the background this aim assist here is clunky i don't see how it actually assists anyone except for making them rage out when it late tracks the wrong targets they need to just remove it, he's right no serious FPS players wants a blatant aim assist in there game whether it's broken or not, the only ppl who want it are PC players new to console
Umm, no, those PC players will just use KBM. I am not one of them but they never asked for or expressed any interest in aim assist. As far as I can tell most PC players would rather have their left nut removed than use a controller for a FPS.
But good luck trying to fly a drop ship... with KBM...
Look, as far as I know, every single FPS on console has aim assist except for Halo.
It seems like they turned off the weird auto tracking thing in DUST, and I haven't noticed a difference with it on or off except when using some blaster or railgun turrets, where you will either hit something you shouldn't have or miss when should have hit...
Edit* also, to the OP, DUST 514 doesn't have auto aim, so guess we can't have your things after all? Ah well. |
DigiOps
DUST University
Ivy League
85
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Posted - 2013.01.27 18:01:00 -
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You do realize most console shooters do use auto-aim, right? |
Buzzwords
Deadly Blue Dots
RISE of LEGION
416
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Posted - 2013.01.27 18:02:00 -
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Enji Elric wrote:Belzeebub Santana wrote:I know for sure MAG had aim assist not real sure what BF3 does but I think it has something. MAG is a staple of this community so I don't think aim assist matters. It's there for new players and really bad long term players, I find in all the games it has it in it's more of a hindrance than helpful.
To each his own, can I haz ur stuff? mag didnt have aim assist the game costs like $5 used pick it up and try it before you talk ****
Mag very likely had aim assist. or lemme put it this way, it 100% ABSOLUTELY had aim assist when used with a move.
almost every console FPS has aim assist. it's not about making it easy mode, or making it run and gun, or making it scrubby scrubby noskill time, it's about countering the loss of precision when switching from a mouse to an analogue stick.
get used to it. aim assist exists. if you REALLY believe you're so good at video games as to not need it, then why do you CARE? you must be good enough to win every time anyway. please go be awesome somewhere else. or at least be awesome quietly. |
Leither Yiltron
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
417
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Posted - 2013.01.27 18:06:00 -
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VonDred Dust wrote:
oh and if there is auto aim when the game launches looks like i have another game on my list that i will have to drop.
Ok, seeing that most of the people re-posting lack common sense, I'm saying if there's auto aim at launch I'm not playing.
Can I have your stuff? |
Gunner Nightingale
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
215
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Posted - 2013.01.27 18:16:00 -
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EVERY I REPEAT EVERY FPS on Console has aim assist, NOT EVERY GAME give you the option to turn it off why?
Because controllers are soooo inaccurate without them, ask any PC FPSer about controllers and they tell you they have aim assist PC side why because they would get murdered without them. Why on console because they are nowhere near as precise without them and players who have their sensitivity ramped up to maximize turn speed but lack twitch control to aim with them would get slaughtered without them..
Lulz that his gripe is over aim assist not KB/M. KB which has ridiculous strafe characteristics that the analogs sticks CAN"T DO.
Lulz that most gaming mice allow for DPI changes on the fly(love my corsair M60) that lets me pick off headshots(when i was using an AR before i earned my M.D.) like a PRO.
Lulz that i use move navigation controller with my mouse so i get the best of both worlds in a streamlined setup and keep a DS3 and for vehicles and adding a KB soon for other situations. Yea im that guy!
Seriously AIM ASSIST, oh no wait AUTO AIM(LMFAO). If a guy turns around like a spinning top and kills me super quick i dont think auto aim i think mouse.
Sad people just haven't caught onto the trend, the second i knew KB/M was supported in this game it was purchased lickity split.
Those who think that DS3 users cant compete i point you to the IMPERFECTS and many other top players but i know what many IMPS use, specifically Doug Ugly, DS3 user and can solo that dreaded crowd of 4 head on with 2 heavies in that mix and still walk away like a boss.
/thread.
When we up in da Barge, All Eyez on us, all eyez on usGǪGǪ You are now now rockin with I M Perfects and IMPSwarm b itch!!
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Red Dot 24601-HA
S.e.V.e.N.
36
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Posted - 2013.01.27 18:17:00 -
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Just want to say that it is AIM ASSIST not auto aim. Auto aim is what metal gear online had. The aim assist in this game is weak. and no MAG did not have aim assist! Stop blaming your failure on others... |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1904
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Posted - 2013.01.27 18:22:00 -
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VonDred Dust wrote:Karl Koekwaus wrote:You can turn it off if you don't like it. and this is why you shouldn't talk because I'm not talking about it ruining game play for me, I'm talking about it ruining game play in general because it doesn't take a lick of effort, stealth will no longer be worth attacking 5 guys because you only ever be able to take out one so you point is moot.
::Reloads militia shotgun after ghosting up on and smoking 4-5 reds::
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Moejoe Omnipotent
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
241
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Posted - 2013.01.27 19:47:00 -
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Aim assist is needed to counter the advantage mouse users have over everyone else. The gunplay is also already pretty awkward and slow and the aim assist helps speed things up a bit. |
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