DUST Search - Dust 514 + Auto Aim = Refuse to play

Aighun wrote:

Sobriety Denied wrote:

Belzeebub Santana wrote:

I know for sure MAG had aim assist not real sure what BF3 does but I think it has something. MAG is a staple of this community so I don't think aim assist matters. It's there for new players and really bad long term players, I find in all the games it has it in it's more of a hindrance than helpful.

To each his own, can I haz ur stuff?

all games have aim assist some are just better at having it in the background

this aim assist here is clunky i don't see how it actually assists anyone except for making them rage out when it late tracks the wrong targets

they need to just remove it, he's right no serious FPS players wants a blatant aim assist in there game whether it's broken or not, the only ppl who want it are PC players new to console

Umm, no, those PC players will just use KBM. I am not one of them but they never asked for or expressed any interest in aim assist. As far as I can tell most PC players would rather have their left nut removed than use a controller for a FPS.

But good luck trying to fly a drop ship... with KBM...

Look, as far as I know, every single FPS on console has aim assist except for Halo.

It seems like they turned off the weird auto tracking thing in DUST, and I haven't noticed a difference with it on or off except when using some blaster or railgun turrets, where you will either hit something you shouldn't have or miss when should have hit...

Edit* also, to the OP, DUST 514 doesn't have auto aim, so guess we can't have your things after all? Ah well.

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Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2047	Posted - 2013.01.27 19:50:00 - [31] - Quote If you have aim assist on then I have no respect for you
Anuliadon Gortusk Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 26	Posted - 2013.01.27 19:51:00 - [32] - Quote i always turn aim assist off figured most people did, but apparently not from this thread response. Aim assist to me isnt the issue but kb/m is, but alas we are stuck with it
James-5955 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 151	Posted - 2013.01.27 19:59:00 - [33] - Quote Skill > Auto aim Basically what I'm saying is I don't care if it has aim assist in it. I don't feel that it does enough to make much of a difference. Once you get good enough at aiming it eventually becomes a bit more of a hindrance to ones performance than anything. Like when scanning over to your target while ADSed, when you get near them you might realize that there's a bit of a pull that can throw you off. Or when aiming at a group of enemies, wanting to focus on one and having it move your sights between the enemies. The only thing I find it good for in most games is spotting enemies in bushes or other foliage.
4447 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 649	Posted - 2013.01.27 20:02:00 - [34] - Quote VonDred Dust wrote: I noticed games that are FPS with auto aim have a tendency to have very crappy game play because the player doesn't have to worry about skill level and just becomes a run and gun. All because they don't have to worry about aiming. By adding auto aim I could see this game just becoming another Halo or CoD multiplayer, where no one uses skill or tactics to complete the objectives. This also makes it so that the bigger weapon will always win cause newer players to shy away from the game because they will lose every time to an high level player. This sets the game up for failure due to the lack of experience a new player could be getting. So what this really boils down to is, SAY NO TO AUTO AIM oh and if there is auto aim when the game launches looks like i have another game on my list that i will have to drop. Ok, seeing that most of the people re-posting lack common sense, I'm saying if there's auto aim at launch I'm not playing. There's the door on your way out.
Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2047	Posted - 2013.01.27 20:03:00 - [35] - Quote 4447 wrote: VonDred Dust wrote: I noticed games that are FPS with auto aim have a tendency to have very crappy game play because the player doesn't have to worry about skill level and just becomes a run and gun. All because they don't have to worry about aiming. By adding auto aim I could see this game just becoming another Halo or CoD multiplayer, where no one uses skill or tactics to complete the objectives. This also makes it so that the bigger weapon will always win cause newer players to shy away from the game because they will lose every time to an high level player. This sets the game up for failure due to the lack of experience a new player could be getting. So what this really boils down to is, SAY NO TO AUTO AIM oh and if there is auto aim when the game launches looks like i have another game on my list that i will have to drop. Ok, seeing that most of the people re-posting lack common sense, I'm saying if there's auto aim at launch I'm not playing. There's the door on your way out. i don't think you said it correctly
Marston VC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 92	Posted - 2013.01.27 20:06:00 - [36] - Quote the only thing it "helps" at all is shotguns, but usually it doesn't even help me, it just throws me off because of how ill try and control the gun manually but then ill get a little tug throwing the gun off center thus preventing a one shot kill. really this whole thread is a joke "dust 514 isn't arma II so im gonna drop it" useless......
Ten-Sidhe Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 414	Posted - 2013.01.27 20:11:00 - [37] - Quote One common form of aim assist only slows movement when near a target, so it lowers sensitivity down when almost there for more precision. Dust has had aim assist since June, we had option to turn it off later. I aim better with it off, I'm not that good so most of the skilled players will have it shut off. More for casual players to not get slaughtered as bad, when they play dust after playing a bunch of non-fps games.
Knarf Black Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 397	Posted - 2013.01.27 20:38:00 - [38] - Quote Aim assist is a necessity for console FPS games. If Dust's wasn't so shoddy, I'd say it needs to be cranked up a notch to help the DS3s compete with M&K. Play FEAR 3 or Crysis (on console) for a minute after playing Dust; it's insane. ADS practically drags your cursor onto the enemy.
Maken Tosch Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 1593	Posted - 2013.01.27 20:42:00 - [39] - Quote I've been doing just fine without the aim assist. When I turned it on, I think it actually hindered me. I get close to my targets all the time and I don't think it works. In fact, I don't want to see it fixed either. Leave it the way it is.
Sobriety Denied Universal Allies Inc. 432	Posted - 2013.01.27 20:49:00 - [40] - Quote perhaps i go kbm when they offer full remap support but there's the benefit of comfort with the DS3 and it's rewarding to progress at.

AskuII Legend Vacuum Cleaner. LLC 7	Posted - 2013.01.27 20:55:00 - [41] - Quote If you turn off aid in aiming, then you must disable the gaming mouse! Newbies will not be able to play on the joystick properly, so the meat is running on map!
Belzeebub Santana SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 409	Posted - 2013.01.27 21:25:00 - [42] - Quote Enji Elric wrote: Belzeebub Santana wrote: I know for sure MAG had aim assist not real sure what BF3 does but I think it has something. MAG is a staple of this community so I don't think aim assist matters. It's there for new players and really bad long term players, I find in all the games it has it in it's more of a hindrance than helpful. To each his own, can I haz ur stuff? mag didnt have aim assist the game costs like $5 used pick it up and try it before you talk **** Lol, what happens when you assume? You make an "ass outta u and me". I have paid for MAG twice, (one got stolen along with all my games and a PS3 fat boy), I was in Beta for it, it's the only game I have cared to platinum, so I know a thing or two about MAG. There is aim assist and if you never noticed it then I'm sorry that you're not that aware. And yes the Move aim assist on that game was WAY worse than with a DS3, but was still the most fun way to play the game and I cant wait for CCP to do a better job with it so I can pick it up again. I'm a gluten for punishment, played so many types of FPS and TPS shooters on and off the PC that a new control scheme is what really gets me coming back to FPS, makes it more of a challenge. Get to work on the SHARP SHOOTER CCP!!! EDIT: my corp is also a MAG clan!!!
Aighun Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 666	Posted - 2013.01.27 22:03:00 - [43] - Quote Belzeebub Santana wrote: ... I'm a gluten for punishment, played so many types of FPS and TPS shooters on and off the PC that a new control scheme is what really gets me coming back to FPS, makes it more of a challenge. Get to work on the SHARP SHOOTER CCP!!! EDIT: my corp is also a MAG clan!!! I have been trying out gluten free punishment recently and that has really helped my video game digestion of late... But yeah, I want to try the sharp shooter, but have been putting off getting one since there still seem to be a lot of problems with aiming using move. But it would be a good thing if DUST were to develop a reputation for being one of the beter games to play with sharp shooter on the PS 3.
Rei Shepard Spectre II 72	Posted - 2013.01.27 22:25:00 - [44] - Quote I feel bad for controller people when i walk over 5 of em with my KB/M setup, so even if they do use aim assist, i don't notice it because it cant track my sideways movement at all. Though if i was forced to use the controller myself, idd be shooting at walls, birds, floortiles, air ...lots of air and allot of 1 inching behind the player i am targetting aand nading myself meanwhile... I finished deadspace on PS3, i promptly bought deadspace 2 for PC afterwards.... Though i gotta say, if Dust was made for PC, we would have Aimbots, ESP, Wallhacks ruining the game and quite frankly, i take aim assist over cheaters anyday...
Kalante Schiffer UnReaL. 183	Posted - 2013.01.27 22:26:00 - [45] - Quote Enji Elric wrote: Belzeebub Santana wrote: I know for sure MAG had aim assist not real sure what BF3 does but I think it has something. MAG is a staple of this community so I don't think aim assist matters. It's there for new players and really bad long term players, I find in all the games it has it in it's more of a hindrance than helpful. To each his own, can I haz ur stuff? mag didnt have aim assist the game costs like $5 used pick it up and try it before you talk **** true mag didnt have aim assist. How ironic that he has SVER as his clan name and doesnt know that mag does not utilize aim assist and then goes on talking sht. what a true piece of sht.
VonDred Dust Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2013.01.28 04:09:00 - [46] - Quote Enji Elric wrote: Belzeebub Santana wrote: I know for sure MAG had aim assist not real sure what BF3 does but I think it has something. MAG is a staple of this community so I don't think aim assist matters. It's there for new players and really bad long term players, I find in all the games it has it in it's more of a hindrance than helpful. To each his own, can I haz ur stuff? mag didnt have aim assist the game costs like $5 used pick it up and try it before you talk **** Thank you thank you thank you you understand right
VonDred Dust Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2013.01.28 04:11:00 - [47] - Quote DigiOps wrote: You do realize most console shooters do use auto-aim, right? yeah and i don't play most Console games. When i do play games on my computer I use a controller due to the disability of my hand.
VonDred Dust Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2013.01.28 04:30:00 - [48] - Quote Enji Elric wrote: VonDred Dust wrote: Karl Koekwaus wrote: You can turn it off if you don't like it. and this is why you shouldn't talk because I'm not talking about it ruining game play for me, I'm talking about it ruining game play in general because it doesn't take a lick of effort, stealth will no longer be worth attacking 5 guys because you only ever be able to take out one so you point is moot. the entirety of this thread is moot in the 7+ months these forums have been out, there just happens to be a huge drop in intelligent conversation since we went open beta vondred you should really just use the search button Out of all the years of keeping auto aim out of games now it become a accustomed to have it in due to lack of skill in players. letGÇÖs give a scenario you see a guy run into a door way, you chase after him when you go through the door all the player has to do is pull the trigger because itGÇÖs a small choke point and no matter which way you move his reticle will follow you . As to a game without auto aim you could go through the door and juke the player causing him to move his reticule the opposite way because in order for him to hit you, he has to aim, thus giving you a chance to get the kill. DonGÇÖt reply with why donGÇÖt you chuck a grenade and such because IGÇÖm just setting up a scenario that everyone can understand and is simple to follow. If you do I will never take anything you say in this discussion seriously because all youGÇÖll do is overthink and you donGÇÖt look at the situation from an outside perspective.
VonDred Dust Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2013.01.28 04:33:00 - [49] - Quote Sobriety Denied wrote: he is too worried about a broken mechanic tho not worried about a broken mechanic because its not going to be physically broken at launch.
VonDred Dust Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2013.01.28 04:44:00 - [50] - Quote Fargen Icehole wrote: VonDred Dust wrote: Karl Koekwaus wrote: You can turn it off if you don't like it. and this is why you shouldn't talk because I'm not talking about it ruining game play for me, I'm talking about it ruining game play in general because it doesn't take a lick of effort, stealth will no longer be worth attacking 5 guys because you only ever be able to take out one so you point is moot. So, because you can only take out ! guy after flanking a group.... it's the auto-aim's fault?!? Here's a hint: if you successfully flank a group and can only kill one guy, it's you, not the fact that they have auto-aim. Besides, as others have said, the auto-aim in this game is minimal, and not as bad as other games. OK lets put it this way how do you out maneuver someone with auto aim, the answer is you can can't. Where in MAG I could out maneuver like 5 guys at once with out retreating, plus I think using auto aim in general is like saying lets play a fighting game but I'm going to set my handicap to 10 and you set yours to 2 so that way it wont be hard for me. Plus if you really wanna see auto aim destroy a multi-player play Max Payne 3.

VonDred Dust Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2013.01.28 04:45:00 - [51] - Quote Red Dot 24601-HA wrote: Just want to say that it is AIM ASSIST not auto aim. Auto aim is what metal gear online had. The aim assist in this game is weak. and no MAG did not have aim assist! Stop blaming your failure on others... Same thing, plus I think its just another way of people not putting any effort into playing video games anymore.
VonDred Dust Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2013.01.28 04:49:00 - [52] - Quote Aighun wrote: Sobriety Denied wrote: Belzeebub Santana wrote: I know for sure MAG had aim assist not real sure what BF3 does but I think it has something. MAG is a staple of this community so I don't think aim assist matters. It's there for new players and really bad long term players, I find in all the games it has it in it's more of a hindrance than helpful. To each his own, can I haz ur stuff? all games have aim assist some are just better at having it in the background this aim assist here is clunky i don't see how it actually assists anyone except for making them rage out when it late tracks the wrong targets they need to just remove it, he's right no serious FPS players wants a blatant aim assist in there game whether it's broken or not, the only ppl who want it are PC players new to console Umm, no, those PC players will just use KBM. I am not one of them but they never asked for or expressed any interest in aim assist. As far as I can tell most PC players would rather have their left nut removed than use a controller for a FPS. But good luck trying to fly a drop ship... with KBM... Look, as far as I know, every single FPS on console has aim assist except for Halo. It seems like they turned off the weird auto tracking thing in DUST, and I haven't noticed a difference with it on or off except when using some blaster or railgun turrets, where you will either hit something you shouldn't have or miss when should have hit... Edit* also, to the OP, DUST 514 doesn't have auto aim, so guess we can't have your things after all? Ah well. Halo 1 does not while all the rest do you just cant turn it off.
Jotun Hiem Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 412	Posted - 2013.01.28 04:54:00 - [53] - Quote VonDred Dust wrote: letGÇÖs give a scenario you see a guy run into a door way, you chase after him when you go through the door all the player has to do is pull the trigger because itGÇÖs a small choke point and no matter which way you move his reticle will follow you . As to a game without auto aim you could go through the door and juke the player causing him to move his reticule the opposite way because in order for him to hit you, he has to aim, thus giving you a chance to get the kill. You've obviously never played TF2 before. Or really any game with a very proficient low-range class.
Sete Clifton PSU GHOST SYNDICATE 67	Posted - 2013.01.28 05:00:00 - [54] - Quote Aim assist does not mean that your aim will "snap" to targets like call of duty, nor will it completely track a target without you having to do anything. It's supposed to smooth out the little imperfections that come with using an analog stick, and not make playing a console game a frustrating chore. It's a feature that is supposed to be subtle enough that you don't notice it, and I can tell you I definitely don't notice it in Dust, as it appears to do next to nothing right now. Honestly, just about every console shooter has some form of aim assist to compensate for the lack of precision in an analog stick. I personally think it's more unfair to have people with controllers play against M/KB, but I deal with it. This is a console game first and foremost, not a PC game, it should play by console rules first.
4447 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 649	Posted - 2013.01.28 09:29:00 - [55] - Quote Sleepy Zan wrote: 4447 wrote: VonDred Dust wrote: I noticed games that are FPS with auto aim have a tendency to have very crappy game play because the player doesn't have to worry about skill level and just becomes a run and gun. All because they don't have to worry about aiming. By adding auto aim I could see this game just becoming another Halo or CoD multiplayer, where no one uses skill or tactics to complete the objectives. This also makes it so that the bigger weapon will always win cause newer players to shy away from the game because they will lose every time to an high level player. This sets the game up for failure due to the lack of experience a new player could be getting. So what this really boils down to is, SAY NO TO AUTO AIM oh and if there is auto aim when the game launches looks like i have another game on my list that i will have to drop. Ok, seeing that most of the people re-posting lack common sense, I'm saying if there's auto aim at launch I'm not playing. There's the door on your way out. i don't think you said it correctly I think i was half asleep when writing
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2013.01.28 10:32:00 - [56] - Quote YAY! Another thread where people don't know the difference between auto-aim and aim assist! No, not all of you, but a few seem to be using the terms interchangeably. They're similar concepts, basically opposite approaches to the same problem. Also, they aren't clearly defined in an "official" sense as to which is which. Many (not all, and not even most) console shooters have auto aim. Most console shooters with auto-aim have the option to turn it off. Most (almost all) console shooters have aim assist, INCLUDING the ones with auto-aim. Very few games allow you to disable aim assist. So what's the difference? One is an "active" system and the other is "passive". Auto aim lets you RELEASE the right stick and the game will track a target for you, turning your character to follow an enemy's movement. Depending on the movement speed and the strength of auto aim, you may or may not need to pay attention. A fast-moving opponent will often move faster than auto aim tracks, allowing them to evade unless you manually turn along with the assistance provided by the auto aim. Aim assist simply adjusts the sensitivity of your stick as you move towards or away from a target. When you're turning normally, you turn at your normal speed. When an enemy is close to your crosshairs, you turn slightly faster than usual towards the enemy, and slightly slower when turning away. With this kind of aim assist, "wiggling" the stick back and forth while a target is moving - but only when they're moving slowly - will track the enemy for you, but not as accurately as auto-aim does, and you still need to be paying attention.
new hulk ZionTCD Legacy Rising 49	Posted - 2013.01.28 10:45:00 - [57] - Quote Lol
Chibi Andy Celtic Anarchy 38	Posted - 2013.01.28 10:59:00 - [58] - Quote Washlee wrote: Aim assist doesn't work yes tell that to the OP who believes auto-aim magically works
semperfi1999 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 317	Posted - 2013.01.28 14:57:00 - [59] - Quote Enji Elric wrote: Belzeebub Santana wrote: I know for sure MAG had aim assist not real sure what BF3 does but I think it has something. MAG is a staple of this community so I don't think aim assist matters. It's there for new players and really bad long term players, I find in all the games it has it in it's more of a hindrance than helpful. To each his own, can I haz ur stuff? mag didnt have aim assist the game costs like $5 used pick it up and try it before you talk **** Yes MAG had a slight aim assist. Almost all games have a slight aim assist for console shooters. Its just the lvl of aim assist. Ppl hear aim assist and assume COD because COD aim assist is very very strong. THis game and MAG as well has aim assist but the assist it pretty weak compared to most games (MAGs was even stronger than dusts). I love all the people yelling that MAG did not have aim assist. I had over 1500 hours of playtime on MAG which multiple chars. YES mag had aim assist...it was slight but it was there....and there was not an option to turn it off.
Longshot Ravenwood Algintal Core Gallente Federation 680	Posted - 2013.01.28 15:05:00 - [60] - Quote Scrambler Pistols shoot where you're aiming at (typically) -- while SMGs spray, which means that while it's not as accurate, it doesn't need to be. It's not going where I'm pointing the kittening thing anyway. Drops the DPS compared to a good line of fire Scrambler, but when you're moonwalking around your opponent while he's trying to circle-strafe you it helps to not need to point it right at the guy. It's all about knowing your weapons & your opponent. If you see some guy hiding in the hills and you run at him screaming jihad don't be surprised when he blows your head off or melts through you with a laser rifle. You spot a heavy running arround with a BFG? Don't run in front of him, get behind him and say hello with a grenade first. What's that zippy thing with a shotgun? I've got no idea but if you aren't using cover it might kill you with one shot.



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