the effort to be more accurate should count.

It already counts dude, if you are accurate more shots hit the targets and it dies faster.

Didn't I already get the OP to admit his mom dropped him on his head?

Threads dead.

True. but the other option is to turn on you like a pack of blood-crazed sharks now.

Sounds fun to me.

Sounds like I need to get my camera - bout to get kinky up in hurr.

You wouldn't have sex with a shark. That's not logical. That's not logical. That's not logical.

Where's the logic?

Thread is still alive.

This guys suggestion isn't completely unreasonable.

When we hit open beta, you will know the meaning of unreasonable suggestions.

Post of the day.

I would like to see less recoil on ADS or more recoil for hipfiring....one of the two.

Even if there is no hit bonus to an aimed shot, this is first shooter where I feel at a disadvantage against a hip fire enemy. I don't know why, maybe its the jerky player movement.

Some people are good at hip fire. I am not, so I am biased toward the aim bonus. Not to mention better sights. Like a juicy red dot.

7 out of 10 times a person hip firing will lose against someone whose aiming. The advantage of hip firing is quicker aiming movement. Seeing as this thread only really talks about AR, HMG, SMG, as they're the only 'hip fire weapons' with any lethality - you'll notice how 2 out of 3 are CQC.

AR's spread is just fine - you'll lose every encounter if you try to hip fire your way through.

>_> I don't even know what to say anymore.

Get good really seems to fit this situation. How the heck are you losing against hip fire? >_>

While I think that ratio (7/10) is usually true, and should be true, I think it's less true with this game.

It's very true. Hip firing is awful against anything but heavies or idiots walking down a straight path. Or other idiots who can't see someone working a corner using hip-fire to slowly bring down an enemy.

Even if you use an SMG - you're better off aiming. Only the HMG uses hip fire like a pro - but aiming even pumps up that DPS.

and uh - you should always be moving in a gun fight.

You wouldn't have sex with a shark. That's not logical. That's not logical. That's not logical.

Where's the logic?

Thread is still alive.

Congratulations!!!!! :) You sir are, by farther than the furthest farness, the most irrelevant Poster I have seen on here. So much so as to warrant my 1st Post ever on the DUST 514 Forum.......

For the sake of argument I begin by stating my Gaming Skillset is quite diverse while maintaining proficiency overall. To list a few of the many Multiplayer FPS Titles I have experience with (The ones I prefer riddled w/ some less preferred "Mainstream" Shooters), Killzone (1-3), Battlefield (1-3, BC1&2, 1942), CoD (All Non-Handheld), MAG, & DUST 514. Those are the Pure FPS I can remember off the top as there are many misconceptions of the FPS Genre that are classified best as a whole as Shooters (Ex: Metal Gear Online (1&2&PW/PO+) is a Hybrid, Uncharted (1-3) is a 3PS, CounterStrike (Pre & Post SRC) & Socom (1-CA, CT) are Hipfire Crosshair Shooters [Halo falls under this category as well]).

I could go on and on.....but I digress. On to the "Meat & Potatoes" of my Post:

In NONE of said, & likely unsaid, Titles do you EVER get a Damage Multiplier for ADS. ADS ALWAYS grants Accuracy Increase at the cost of Mobility. Hipfire does the Polar Opposite of this Formula. Crouching & Prone widen the Gap in favor of Accuracy. You must be the Duncecap Awarded Lemming who opts to ADS @ Melee/Shotgun Range...... This holds true for EVERY FPS available on the market. You should start a movement for Melee/Shotty Range Crouch ADSers b/c you are obliviously so GOD Tier @ FPS, so much so as to present yourself as a"Benchmark" for us all. Continue to be my Well Uninformed KdR Meat, KthxBAI :P

Congratulations!!!!! :) You sir are, by farther than the furthest farness, the most irrelevant Poster I have seen on here. So much so as to warrant my 1st Post ever on the DUST 514 Forum.......

For the sake of argument I begin by stating my Gaming Skillset is quite diverse while maintaining proficiency overall. To list a few of the many Multiplayer FPS Titles I have experience with (The ones I prefer riddled w/ some less preferred "Mainstream" Shooters), Killzone (1-3), Battlefield (1-3, BC1&2, 1942), CoD (All Non-Handheld), MAG, & DUST 514. Those are the Pure FPS I can remember off the top as there are many misconceptions of the FPS Genre that are classified best as a whole as Shooters (Ex: Metal Gear Online (1&2&PW/PO+) is a Hybrid, Uncharted (1-3) is a 3PS, CounterStrike (Pre & Post SRC) & Socom (1-CA, CT) are Hipfire Crosshair Shooters [Halo falls under this category as well]).

I could go on and on.....but I digress. On to the "Meat & Potatoes" of my Post:

In NONE of said, & likely unsaid, Titles do you EVER get a Damage Multiplier for ADS. ADS ALWAYS grants Accuracy Increase at the cost of Mobility. Hipfire does the Polar Opposite of this Formula. Crouching & Prone widen the Gap in favor of Accuracy. You must be the Duncecap Awarded Lemming who opts to ADS @ Melee/Shotgun Range...... This holds true for EVERY FPS available on the market. You should start a movement for Melee/Shotty Range Crouch ADSers b/c you are obliviously so GOD Tier @ FPS, so much so as to present yourself as a"Benchmark" for us all. Continue to be my Well


Enough with the insults to my intelligence. You don't know me.

But on topic, do you aim less, more, or the same than those other games? If you say the same, then I'll concede. If it's less, then there has to be a reason for it. Jerky movement?

So which is it, for you.




Uninformed KdR Meat, KthxBAI :P

LMAO. Okay - I'll try not to make fun of your intelligence that lead you to type your post in someone elses qoutes lol

But I say I tend to aim more. I'm an AR heavy for the most part - so if people don't die quick to me so I can move on I'm in trouble lol CoD kills are too easy, KZ didn't ever need to aim, BF3... well most are just like CoD - bunch of kids. Good players will always force you to aim.

You left the letter (s) off the word leads, that must mean you're borderline ********. See, it goes both ways.

Anyway, I'm in the minority on this, so i give up. I still think more damage should be on an aimed shot, but if I'm the only one that wants that, it won't happen.

And despite what the experienced shooter said above, I know at least one of those games gave more damage to an aimed shot. It may have been MAG. Either way, I don't have exact proof, so crush me for it. I'm not imagining it.

Then google is your answer. If it's not there - it never was. A topic like that would have a forum somewhere talking about it. That's not a subject serious FPS'ers would ignore.

This thread is now considered another "QQ BUFF ME I SUCK." Thread.

Dude, I remember when I came across the info that the aim shot counted more, I was happy because that was my preference to start with and made the decision to do it more because of that.

You don't control what my thread is. You suck.