Does a bullet hit harder if you're aiming down the sights?

No.

are you new?

I agree... but this post and your original don't match. Military wants a more accurate gun for very obvious reasons. None of it involves the bullet itself doing anything more then moving or swirling *Armor Piercers*. The gun itself delivers the force in which the bullet hurts - not the aim.

i think he's more referring to the fact that you want [more damage] for aiming down sights, not the issue of accuracy

yes, but unfortunately doing more damage because you line up the three ticks the iron sights have makes precious little sense. Unless you're lining up a headshot.

Awesome - who said accuracy doesn't matter? All I'm saying is your idea has very very very little merit. The only thing you've said I can back is that shooting someone in the foot shouldn't = chest shot.

And you'll see me in game one day. Don't worry. ^_^

What game adds bonus damage for trying to be more accurate? Sounds insane to me.

I want to know which games add this bonus damage.

You THINK? wtf? You based your entire argument on games you THINK do this?

This is why protoman asked if you were new. Your thread was missing everything. Information and detail is important when bringing up these ideas - and you have none. You don't have any facts, all you have is assumptions. Probably why this wasn't moved to feedback - not enough information accompanied this post to be relevant as anything productive besides general banter. Which in turn may lead to actual feed back - so I'm not trolling you on creating this thread. Just how your doing it.

Sorry if I seem like a **** - it's late, probably moody, forgive me, but you walked into a school of pariahs without checking any information.

That's cool, now where's the logic and facts. Stop attacking me and start defending your thread. "Oh but I've played other games." Is very weak.

How many more times do I need to tell you how illogical you are? Can you dispute ANYTHING? Maybe you should stop before your ahead before i get more "Professional." Which apparently to you means talking to you logically.

Please stop posting before an imperfect sees this thread and turns you into fodder. I'm at least trying to show you you're wrong, they'll just flat out tell you how utterly stupid you are and get good newb.

Cause really, you don't consider the implications at all. What about HMG's? They're hip fire weapons, but they can aim, do they get the bonus too? How would the bonus factor in with mods? HOW DOES THE BONUS EVEN MAKE PHYSICAL SENSE?

You're not thinking, you're talking, then calling me out. I'm sad, hurt, and betrayed. But mostly amused since no one has openly shared there stupidity with me at this level so I can troll this hard :D

and lol @ games you played that you THINK do things a certain way. You're a joke, go away. >_>

What rest? You haven't stated a rest. You've stated why people shouldn't have an opinion, that you only use aim it should get buffed, and why you think I'm an azz. lol You haven't stated anything, if I missed something, please tell me.

Save your energy and never post again. If you only want positive feedback then go talk to your mommy about your ideas. You never gave any facts, never any detail, nothing. I don't even know why I bother to respond other then my enjoyment at this point of calling you a complete moron.

Your idea blows and you refuse - you actually REFUSE - to bring up anything that logically directs your opinion of a game change to be amicably included into the game. I don't know if you have down syndrome and you're just not capable of properly explaining yourself or I pushed too hard and your emotions are too out of whack now to think straight.

Either way - please, go away. Opinions are fine, but when you become so defensive that you refuse to explain anything further you become nothing more then trash.

Enjoy yourself.

Came in looking to troll...

left disappointed...

Argument had already devolved to "No, YOU! No, YOU! No, YOU! No, YOU! No, YOU! No, YOU!" without help.

I hate it when people are dumb without provocation.

Firstly - sorry break, It did devolve now that I read back quiet a bit - but I'm fine with it lol.

Second: There's not an FPS since golden eye I haven't played. Besides Halo 2 and 3. And some weird MMO FPS PC games lol, sure there's some others too, but all the tripple A title games I've played. Again, as I stated before, I don't see how that matters at all. An idiot could walk into this thread and tell you your logic is off. Bullets doing more damage because you aim? It's non-sense. More bullets LAND because you aim, which causes more damage over-all, but that doesn't increase each individual shot like your saying.

Now I demand you support your logic with valid arguments before I troll all your threads into oblivion for getting me this involved.

Sounds like I need to get my camera - bout to get kinky up in hurr.

7 out of 10 times a person hip firing will lose against someone whose aiming. The advantage of hip firing is quicker aiming movement. Seeing as this thread only really talks about AR, HMG, SMG, as they're the only 'hip fire weapons' with any lethality - you'll notice how 2 out of 3 are CQC.

AR's spread is just fine - you'll lose every encounter if you try to hip fire your way through.

>_> I don't even know what to say anymore.

Get good really seems to fit this situation. How the heck are you losing against hip fire? >_>

It's very true. Hip firing is awful against anything but heavies or idiots walking down a straight path. Or other idiots who can't see someone working a corner using hip-fire to slowly bring down an enemy.

Even if you use an SMG - you're better off aiming. Only the HMG uses hip fire like a pro - but aiming even pumps up that DPS.

and uh - you should always be moving in a gun fight.

Congratulations!!!!! :) You sir are, by farther than the furthest farness, the most irrelevant Poster I have seen on here. So much so as to warrant my 1st Post ever on the DUST 514 Forum.......

For the sake of argument I begin by stating my Gaming Skillset is quite diverse while maintaining proficiency overall. To list a few of the many Multiplayer FPS Titles I have experience with (The ones I prefer riddled w/ some less preferred "Mainstream" Shooters), Killzone (1-3), Battlefield (1-3, BC1&2, 1942), CoD (All Non-Handheld), MAG, & DUST 514. Those are the Pure FPS I can remember off the top as there are many misconceptions of the FPS Genre that are classified best as a whole as Shooters (Ex: Metal Gear Online (1&2&PW/PO+) is a Hybrid, Uncharted (1-3) is a 3PS, CounterStrike (Pre & Post SRC) & Socom (1-CA, CT) are Hipfire Crosshair Shooters [Halo falls under this category as well]).

I could go on and on.....but I digress. On to the "Meat & Potatoes" of my Post:

In NONE of said, & likely unsaid, Titles do you EVER get a Damage Multiplier for ADS. ADS ALWAYS grants Accuracy Increase at the cost of Mobility. Hipfire does the Polar Opposite of this Formula. Crouching & Prone widen the Gap in favor of Accuracy. You must be the Duncecap Awarded Lemming who opts to ADS @ Melee/Shotgun Range...... This holds true for EVERY FPS available on the market. You should start a movement for Melee/Shotty Range Crouch ADSers b/c you are obliviously so GOD Tier @ FPS, so much so as to present yourself as a"Benchmark" for us all. Continue to be my Well


Enough with the insults to my intelligence. You don't know me.

But on topic, do you aim less, more, or the same than those other games? If you say the same, then I'll concede. If it's less, then there has to be a reason for it. Jerky movement?

So which is it, for you.




Uninformed KdR Meat, KthxBAI :P

LMAO. Okay - I'll try not to make fun of your intelligence that lead you to type your post in someone elses qoutes lol

But I say I tend to aim more. I'm an AR heavy for the most part - so if people don't die quick to me so I can move on I'm in trouble lol CoD kills are too easy, KZ didn't ever need to aim, BF3... well most are just like CoD - bunch of kids. Good players will always force you to aim.

Then google is your answer. If it's not there - it never was. A topic like that would have a forum somewhere talking about it. That's not a subject serious FPS'ers would ignore.

This thread is now considered another "QQ BUFF ME I SUCK." Thread.

And this is my last post on this thread. Good luck with the actual trolls. They'll be lovin' your fresh hide.

I Hipfire less in this Title. ADS + Range + Position x Skill = Kill. Everything is Situational so the actual Statistics are Map + Engagement Scenario Dependent. You expect "Common Cortesy" after being the Jack-Off who discredits/disregards someone else's Post b/c you "ASSUME" them to be an EVE Player on their 1st FPS, & then persist due to assumed "Lack of stated FPS Experience" to satisfy your EGO (As misplaced as it is at that.....) I provided all, you presented Nil. Go Melee/Shotty Range ADS a Heavy HMG F2F & leave the Logic & Suggestions to those better suited to not come across as an Irrelevant Trolltard, KthxBAI.

Okay I'll bite I have played quite a few FPS over the last 4 to 5 years from CoD 4 to BO2, then BFBC2 to B3, KZ2+3, some old school stuff like the original MOHs, and a few other independent games like section 8.

In these games I have never noticed a bonus from ADS as far as damage per bullet goes. Now I have noticed a difference in damage as far as DPS goes do to increased accuracy. The increase in DPS is supposed to be the bonus for aiming down the sights.

If someone thinks that the AR is accurate at hip fire you should have seen it in Codex it out did the SMG everyday of the week. This was adjusted after some people posted in feedback stating that it should be looked at.

Lastly there was a comment on damage % on different parts of the body. In every game I have played with the exception of BF to date do not have this except for head shot multipliers. But in this game adding something like this would be weird. In the games I mentioned if you took a bullet to you leg or foot you would get hurt and, maybe die but you would probably not without consistent fire like it was you body because it is equal damage there. In this game though we are protected by shields and armor, well on smaller parts there can only be minimal shielding and less armor do to physics, so you should take more damage here same for the hands as well. Then you have to put in this make it match the hit box for all suit styles and hope it does not effect the latency of the game. Over all that is to much for right now just like ballistics is not in here yet but I wish it was and I will wait for the day that they say no we are not or yes it is coming.(I think there is ballistics on the experimental sniper rifle but I rarely snipe so useless to me.)

Not to troll but your idea is based around your play style and how you want the game to benefit you not how the game should be balanced for all play styles equally. Also the games that you mentioned earlier are very old and I was unaware that there was an ADS in 3/4 of them I no there was none in quake 1, don't remember them in doom(PC original never played Xbox version), and never played counter strike(I think you posted this one not sure now it was five pages ago). So in the long run your idea is not bad but I don't feel it would make this game any better overall.