I want to know which games add this bonus damage.

You THINK? wtf? You based your entire argument on games you THINK do this?

Since the damage is the same as firing from the hip there is a whole lot of dancing going on, jumping monkeys and weaving snakes.

Well, in every FPS I've played aiming down the sight counts for more damage, especially if you get the first bullet hit. This is not the case with Dust.

I'm sure there are players who don't even use sights, which I think is not natural for a shooter.

Yeah, its been awhile since I've played either.

This is why protoman asked if you were new. Your thread was missing everything. Information and detail is important when bringing up these ideas - and you have none. You don't have any facts, all you have is assumptions. Probably why this wasn't moved to feedback - not enough information accompanied this post to be relevant as anything productive besides general banter. Which in turn may lead to actual feed back - so I'm not trolling you on creating this thread. Just how your doing it.

Sorry if I seem like a **** - it's late, probably moody, forgive me, but you walked into a school of pariahs without checking any information.

I am not assuming. I have played those other games a lot, and aiming was a factor.

Like I've said, there are some people who swear by hip fire. I don't think they should have a say about people who aim. Because they wouldn't aim more or less with a slight reward for aiming.

There some people like me who have to aim, if anything, because I've done this in those other games.

No problem with your tude. I do assume people usually only respond if they disagree. That is the net. Bickering.

Dude, if you weren't bickering before, you are now. Especially when you start nit picking words. Not to mention you have this air of some professional debater, (illustrate your examples!) which you're not. Never mind, I doubt you've played many other shooters, if you have, then you haven't been paying attention.

Well, I have played other shooters and people hip fire in this game more than any other shooter I've seen, Including COD.

That's cool, now where's the logic and facts. Stop attacking me and start defending your thread. "Oh but I've played other games." Is very weak.

How many more times do I need to tell you how illogical you are? Can you dispute ANYTHING? Maybe you should stop before your ahead before i get more "Professional." Which apparently to you means talking to you logically.

You're not any more logical than anyone else. Stop demanding things you plan to pick apart anyway.

Factoid freak.

Please stop posting before an imperfect sees this thread and turns you into fodder. I'm at least trying to show you you're wrong, they'll just flat out tell you how utterly stupid you are and get good newb.

Cause really, you don't consider the implications at all. What about HMG's? They're hip fire weapons, but they can aim, do they get the bonus too? How would the bonus factor in with mods? HOW DOES THE BONUS EVEN MAKE PHYSICAL SENSE?

You're not thinking, you're talking, then calling me out. I'm sad, hurt, and betrayed. But mostly amused since no one has openly shared there stupidity with me at this level so I can troll this hard :D

and lol @ games you played that you THINK do things a certain way. You're a joke, go away. >_>

First of all, I don't value your opinion. You haven't answered whether you've played other FPS. You're not thinking either.

OMG, physical sense! STFU.

Nerd.

When it's clear someone just wants to argue, I don't waste time trying to convince them of anything, supplying them with logic that can be attacked at it's weak point, You'll just focus on the weakest part of the argument and ignore the rest.

What rest? You haven't stated a rest. You've stated why people shouldn't have an opinion, that you only use aim it should get buffed, and why you think I'm an azz. lol You haven't stated anything, if I missed something, please tell me.

I know your type already, so I'm not interested in talking to you anymore. You're not going to change your mind no matter what I say. You're not man enough to change your mind or admit your wrong, or even comprise. You're some young jerk.

Tip, respond to things you agree with, save your energy.

Save your energy and never post again. If you only want positive feedback then go talk to your mommy about your ideas. You never gave any facts, never any detail, nothing. I don't even know why I bother to respond other then my enjoyment at this point of calling you a complete moron.

Your idea blows and you refuse - you actually REFUSE - to bring up anything that logically directs your opinion of a game change to be amicably included into the game. I don't know if you have down syndrome and you're just not capable of properly explaining yourself or I pushed too hard and your emotions are too out of whack now to think straight.

Either way - please, go away. Opinions are fine, but when you become so defensive that you refuse to explain anything further you become nothing more then trash.

Enjoy yourself.

What makes you think your opinion is better. I think you're stupid too, but do I actually expect you to think that of yourself just because I said it. No. But you would.

I let you think I have down syndrome. I don't care.


I'll talk to my mommy about my ideas, if you take some more beatings from your father.

Came in looking to troll...

left disappointed...

Argument had already devolved to "No, YOU! No, YOU! No, YOU! No, YOU! No, YOU! No, YOU!" without help.

I hate it when people are dumb without provocation.

of course I'm comparing dust to other games. If a player is in this for the long haul they will have to overlook new releases of other games. I want Dust to be better than other shooters. Or at least do what most of them do already.

The fact that bonuses are given in other games for shooting someone while aiming is obviously enough logic to implement it by the game designers who have a better idea what gamers want.


You still haven't said if your used to playing other FPS. I suspect you are not.

I hate it when people assume to know the intellect of another person over the internet.

Sir you are assuming I CARE about the intellect of another person over the internet.

I'm going to call them stupid anyway. The question is whether I'll be diplomatic about it.

Firstly - sorry break, It did devolve now that I read back quiet a bit - but I'm fine with it lol.

Second: There's not an FPS since golden eye I haven't played. Besides Halo 2 and 3. And some weird MMO FPS PC games lol, sure there's some others too, but all the tripple A title games I've played. Again, as I stated before, I don't see how that matters at all. An idiot could walk into this thread and tell you your logic is off. Bullets doing more damage because you aim? It's non-sense. More bullets LAND because you aim, which causes more damage over-all, but that doesn't increase each individual shot like your saying.

Now I demand you support your logic with valid arguments before I troll all your threads into oblivion for getting me this involved.

You win. I'm stupid. My mother dropped me on my head. I wont post here anymore.

Spoken like a true Forum Warrior

Don't worry. I'm not much more polite in real life either. getting popped in the mouth for being a smartass is rated pretty low on my scale of fears.