No.

You are obviously someone who would shoot from the hip no matter what.

In real life, shooting from the hip would rarely kill someone with a trained eye on them. Unless you like jumping and spraying wildly.

If you dont think accuracy matters, you're crazy.

Both, but I'd be satisfied with accuracy.

In other games aim down the sights counts for more, and I personally like it.

Yeah, its been awhile since I've played either.

I am not assuming. I have played those other games a lot, and aiming was a factor.

Like I've said, there are some people who swear by hip fire. I don't think they should have a say about people who aim. Because they wouldn't aim more or less with a slight reward for aiming.

There some people like me who have to aim, if anything, because I've done this in those other games.

No problem with your tude. I do assume people usually only respond if they disagree. That is the net. Bickering.

Dude, if you weren't bickering before, you are now. Especially when you start nit picking words. Not to mention you have this air of some professional debater, (illustrate your examples!) which you're not. Never mind, I doubt you've played many other shooters, if you have, then you haven't been paying attention.

Well, I have played other shooters and people hip fire in this game more than any other shooter I've seen, Including COD.

You're not any more logical than anyone else. Stop demanding things you plan to pick apart anyway.

Factoid freak.

First of all, I don't value your opinion. You haven't answered whether you've played other FPS. You're not thinking either.

OMG, physical sense! STFU.

Nerd.

When it's clear someone just wants to argue, I don't waste time trying to convince them of anything, supplying them with logic that can be attacked at it's weak point, You'll just focus on the weakest part of the argument and ignore the rest.

I know your type already, so I'm not interested in talking to you anymore. You're not going to change your mind no matter what I say. You're not man enough to change your mind or admit your wrong, or even comprise. You're some young jerk.

Tip, respond to things you agree with, save your energy.

What makes you think your opinion is better. I think you're stupid too, but do I actually expect you to think that of yourself just because I said it. No. But you would.

I let you think I have down syndrome. I don't care.


I'll talk to my mommy about my ideas, if you take some more beatings from your father.

of course I'm comparing dust to other games. If a player is in this for the long haul they will have to overlook new releases of other games. I want Dust to be better than other shooters. Or at least do what most of them do already.

The fact that bonuses are given in other games for shooting someone while aiming is obviously enough logic to implement it by the game designers who have a better idea what gamers want.


You still haven't said if your used to playing other FPS. I suspect you are not.

Sir you are assuming I CARE about the intellect of another person over the internet.

I'm going to call them stupid anyway. The question is whether I'll be diplomatic about it.

You win. I'm stupid. My mother dropped me on my head. I wont post here anymore.

Don't worry. I'm not much more polite in real life either. getting popped in the mouth for being a smartass is rated pretty low on my scale of fears.

True. but the other option is to turn on you like a pack of blood-crazed sharks now.

Sounds fun to me.

You wouldn't have sex with a shark. That's not logical. That's not logical. That's not logical.

Where's the logic?

Thread is still alive.

Even if there is no hit bonus to an aimed shot, this is first shooter where I feel at a disadvantage against a hip fire enemy. I don't know why, maybe its the jerky player movement.

Some people are good at hip fire. I am not, so I am biased toward the aim bonus. Not to mention better sights. Like a juicy red dot.

While I think that ratio (7/10) is usually true, and should be true, I think it's less true with this game.

Congratulations!!!!! :) You sir are, by farther than the furthest farness, the most irrelevant Poster I have seen on here. So much so as to warrant my 1st Post ever on the DUST 514 Forum.......

For the sake of argument I begin by stating my Gaming Skillset is quite diverse while maintaining proficiency overall. To list a few of the many Multiplayer FPS Titles I have experience with (The ones I prefer riddled w/ some less preferred "Mainstream" Shooters), Killzone (1-3), Battlefield (1-3, BC1&2, 1942), CoD (All Non-Handheld), MAG, & DUST 514. Those are the Pure FPS I can remember off the top as there are many misconceptions of the FPS Genre that are classified best as a whole as Shooters (Ex: Metal Gear Online (1&2&PW/PO+) is a Hybrid, Uncharted (1-3) is a 3PS, CounterStrike (Pre & Post SRC) & Socom (1-CA, CT) are Hipfire Crosshair Shooters [Halo falls under this category as well]).

I could go on and on.....but I digress. On to the "Meat & Potatoes" of my Post:

In NONE of said, & likely unsaid, Titles do you EVER get a Damage Multiplier for ADS. ADS ALWAYS grants Accuracy Increase at the cost of Mobility. Hipfire does the Polar Opposite of this Formula. Crouching & Prone widen the Gap in favor of Accuracy. You must be the Duncecap Awarded Lemming who opts to ADS @ Melee/Shotgun Range...... This holds true for EVERY FPS available on the market. You should start a movement for Melee/Shotty Range Crouch ADSers b/c you are obliviously so GOD Tier @ FPS, so much so as to present yourself as a"Benchmark" for us all. Continue to be my Well Uninformed KdR Meat, KthxBAI :P

You left the letter (s) off the word leads, that must mean you're borderline ********. See, it goes both ways.

Anyway, I'm in the minority on this, so i give up. I still think more damage should be on an aimed shot, but if I'm the only one that wants that, it won't happen.

And despite what the experienced shooter said above, I know at least one of those games gave more damage to an aimed shot. It may have been MAG. Either way, I don't have exact proof, so crush me for it. I'm not imagining it.

Dude, I remember when I came across the info that the aim shot counted more, I was happy because that was my preference to start with and made the decision to do it more because of that.

You don't control what my thread is. You suck.

I hope you go to hell and die. Eat ****. You post is a bunch mashed up junk. Like you don't satisfy your own Ego.

ASSUME, look I'm yelling over the internet.