Just got back from a helpful chat from CCP Nullabor via IRC

Essentially 'we think' NDA is getting lifted tomorrow however pending legal team CCP Null did say he poked people and hopefully a full and clear post comes out. So no promises that tomorrow NDA is getting lifted yet. Wait for the official posting declaring such before going hog wild with your crazy LAV surfing skills video.

As for the folks who overspent on Aurum items. The move to TQ on the tenth earlier this month is the 'commercial release' as far as the PSN store items descriptions are concerned thus forth ergo, NO MORE AURUM RESETS. This however does not mean that 'beta is over' as there is much more work to be done but truly means no more resets no more refunds. If you feel you have been wronged in any way I highly encourage to use the petition system tomorrow reasonably and try to negotiate a refund as individuals.

I trust you, not says Yoda.

To say that there is not another reset before the final release seems unlikly to me, but I will keep that in mind before I buy 400 90 arum rifles.

And if this is true then the way to go is before the change the arum of milite BPO's we should buy like 400 of each and sell them for tons later once the open market starts.

To say that there is not another reset before the final release seems unlikly to me, but I will keep that in mind before I buy 400 90 arum rifles.

Says you.

it's sad that they don't post this information for the rest of us to see first hand.

If they intended to change the Merc Pack on us, they could have at least told us BEFORE hand, rather than telling us after the fact. A sticky or something saying "btw, you will no longer be getting the Merc pack items back at release" would have sufficed. Of course, then people would have thrown a fit and demanded refunds, so better to just not tell anyone, right?

Look forward to my petitions, and a full refund from SOE if necessary.

Not likely to happen, as with most digital sales they're all final. Most they would do is tell you to tell ccp to restore bought items.

Fair enough, CCP restoring my items after commercial release is officially announced is all I want.

Yeah, it's pretty simple really. All they have to do is actually give us what we paid for. Which is the full Merc pack AT COMMERCIAL RELEASE.

Does no one else remember thread after thread and comment after comment about how the Merc Pack was there so that we could pre-order items for the official commercial release? I believe it was the standard response to the accusation that CCP was charging people for a spot in a closed beta. Well, I guess we now see who was right all along.

honestly, what bothers me the most, is that I was one of the people defending the Merc Pack, and now CCP has made a liar and a fool out of me. It's gonna make it that much harder for me to trust them next time, and MUCH less likely to actually spend money on AUR and items in the future.

I see no mention on the internet after searching for about 30 minutes where sony or CCP has stated dust514 has been commercially released. Personally I am fine because most of my aurum has been spent boosters for sp and they aren't taking my sp back. However, I think players to bough any othe items have legit claims for reimbursement.

This is failed communication in my mind and frankly really really dirty by ccp. We were giong to spend the aurum anways whats 2 weeks worth make a difference ccp? I have am considering jsut not buying more merc packs because of this as I have enough aurum and sp booster to get me a good amount of sp. By then the daily amount shouldn't matter to me much

Perhaps you should have looked into this matter further, observed the facts, and not splurged with your AUR until you had confirmed what CCP's policy was going to be.


It seems like, for the most part, participants of the closed beta understood what was going to happen with AUR when CCP made it clear that the most recent reset was the last. You have enjoyed the benefits of your AUR items not once, not twice, but upwards of three or more times depending upon the timing of your entrance into the closed beta.

Could the literature have been a little bit more clear? Perhaps, but not by much. Overall, the forums is an unsuitable place to pose any questions you now have with regards to the entire thing. The only people who can change anything for you are the Dust 514 GM's.

Pretending that a desperate twisting of semantics of the consumer's end represents some sort of trick or an intentional money grab from CCP borders is just a mite silly.

Quick question... What was the initial complaint here?

All I see in this thread are people talking about AUR items and merc packs and generally being hacked off about something.

Could somebody please clarify the subject matter.

Quick question... What was the initial complaint here?

All I see in this thread are people talking about AUR items and merc packs and generally being hacked off about something.

Could somebody please clarify the subject matter.

Either way if you really do have issues with the aurum, items missing, misconceptions, please please please email support or use the petition system tomorrow to start getting a resolution on the problems.

My only comment is that CCP has stated it was the last wipe before the wipe ever happened. If people spent there AUR unwisely the fault is soley on them. They were warned by numerous threads and they could read announcements. It's the same to those who are going to feel slighted when the new build comes out and a lot of SP may go to waste.

"hey guys, we warned you on the internet that we weren't going to honor your purchase (after you already made it), therefore we get to keep your money and don't have to give you the product you were promised"

amirite?

sending in petitions to GMs before CCP itself make a statement is pointless.

This is why you should have waited for ccp's statement on the forums before posting this ****. I assume they are trying to figure out how to handle it and communicate it. Then give us what if any instructions to remedy it.

Next time let them work it out first before rushing to the forums to be "Mr First to Post it"

So basically people spent their AUR on, let's say 500 Blindfires, to get themselves an early boost and now they are pizzed because they can't get their AUR back?

It would be nice to get some official word on all of this. Right now CCP's definition of "open beta" seems quite different than what the majority of the gaming community would consider. So any argument over what is "beta" and "commercial release" is kind of pointless since CCP are kind of doing whatever they want and calling it whatever they want.

It would have been nice to know about the NDA in advance. Hopefully we will get an anouncement when open beta gets here.