This. Anyone who disagrees are ******* idiots, read the dev posts, they said this will be last reset; Why do you expect to boost yourself with merc pack aur and then get the aur back, and yet not sp reset at some later "release"?


You clearly didn't read the terms of use that got spit out at you everytime you got onto the game for months. They have the right to change the game at any time for any reason with no notice.

I'm sorry but you clearly don't know what you are talking about. They have the right to change the game yes, but that is the games terms of service. The merc pack and aurs terms of service are a COMPLETELY seperate entity then the terms you have when you boot up the game. The terms of the merc pack are clear. Upon every wipe AND the commercial release we are to get reimbursed our items, or be fairly compensated.

Ok. But if we are really talking in all fairness, then CCP should also wipe every character up to this point so all the open beta players will have an even start point with us.

If you read earlier in the thread you would see that I said I don't want a refund, I spent my stuff and am happy with what I got. This is about CCP pulling a dirty move by lying in a product description on more that one occasion, and the fact that they should be held responsible for their lie.

Also don't forget if you purchase the merc pack you were supposed to get 4 day early start on the commercial release. We just gonna forget about that too?

And sir you seem overly mad. You seem to forget, if they don't want to give back all the AUR and items they can also give items of equal value in addition as well. I am being logical and using established facts and laws. You are responding with some form of hate, and your posts carry a malice tone through your text.

Think he is more mad then me.

Actually going through the merc pack, the way it's worded it looks like CCP never intended to wipe for full release and give all the merc stuff back, which I agree is insanely stupid. It would be like giving a free merc pack out. But I find it funny that CCP lied to its players and decide they're just going to try and push it off, and worse is the community is trying to defend them because they don't want to lose their precious items.

Actually an apology from CCP would be welcomed above everything else. You know a "sorry we lied about what we were selling you" something along those lines.

When I bought them (My various Dust DLCs), it was with the understanding that upon full release that I'd be reimbursed with at least items of similar value. Quietly removing those terms is dirty. Not even EA would do that and not honor the original terms. lol

whats not to understand when ccp reimbursed everyone before open beta and said no more resets were happening?
its not like when u spent the money u ever had the option of gettin a full cash refund or something. The money was always tied to the game and CCP informed everyone that they wont be doing anymore wipes meaning no SP resets and AUR resets
thus ppl knew if they spent the AUR which was refunded again there was not gonna be another one.

Playing ignorant does not mean CCP lied in anyway. IF ppl wanted the AUR they got reimbursed to be used at release then WHY DID U SPEND IT AGAIN WHEN THEY SAID NO MORE RESETS USE WISELY

If CCP didnt inform u then yes this rant about AUR reset would be warranted but they did.
Also AUR reset tbqh would mean an SP reset since u already used said AUR to gain SP and thus resetting that already spent AUR on boosters would mean resetting ur SP.....and lets face it do u really want to start from scratch again just to do the SAME ******* thing over again?

#Logic

Because OPEN BETA = retail release, right? lol So basically you're telling me that all the open betas I've played in the past few years were indicative of the full product? Battlefield...Resistance...Socom... Their terrible betas = their releases!

#logic

You say that like I want a stat wipe. lol To be honest, another wipe would probably cause me to stop playing Dust.

The terms, before they were changed, said every wipe AND upon retail release, the items would be reset. To my knowledge, OPEN BETA =/= RETAIL RELEASE, so we're due another restock.

But if the terms were changed quietly and the old terms under which I bought my DLC aren't honored, then it's on CCP, not the consumer.

goes back to my original point
they informed ppl of the change yet u still went ahead and spent it knowing this.
who is really at fault? someone who cant read and comprehend or someone who tries to inform their consumers and the consumer still fails to listen.

lets say the law states u cant use ur cellphone and drive or u will get arrested but that law 2 weeks ago stated u could of used it and no penalty and they told ppl about the change but u ignored the change and used ur cellphone while driving and got arrested are u gonna look at the judge with a straight face and say that wasnt the original law so u should be excused?

**** changes, its not like they stole ur money. u already had it locked within dust so even if upon full release u didnt like the game u couldnt get a cash refund back, u got ur AUR back and still chose to spend it while knowing fully well no resets were happening.

Again. if u really wanted that AUR/stuff saved for release then u wouldnt have used it after they said no resets. Stop being greedy.

When I bought them (My various Dust DLCs), it was with the understanding that upon full release that I'd be reimbursed with at least items of similar value. Quietly removing those terms is dirty. Not even EA would do that and not honor the original terms. lol

I am no lawyer, but I think CCP is going to have a hard time getting out of refunding the AUR.

On the contrary, allt they have to do is keep the "Beta" sticker on forever. If that happens, the only people that suffer are us players. CCP still gets their money through PSN transactions, beta or not.

Stop crying about this unless you want the game in perpetual Beta. You think an organization with a decade of game making, producing and publishing experience does not have a team of lawyers who dissect every legal agreement CCP produces? Where is your team of lawyers?

lets say the law states u cant use ur cellphone and drive or u will get arrested but that law 2 weeks ago stated u could of used it and no penalty and they told ppl about the change but u ignored the change and used ur cellphone while driving and got arrested are u gonna look at the judge with a straight face and say that wasnt the original law so u should be excused?

I would think of something catastrophic happen and they had to wipe all stats I would imagine all Aur will be refunded.

IF there is no wipe rather they go straight into commercial release they won't need to refund your Aur if they aren't doing a complete wipe.

In other words if they don't do anymore wipes why would they give you guys free Aur? If there's no more wipes when commercial release comes out you spent the Aur you paid for therefore there is no refund. IF there is wipe as I said ^ I would imagine they would give everybody the Merc packs ect. that they bought.

Pre-open-beta, the Merc Pack terms SPECIFICALLY stated that we get a full credit of the Merc pack on commercial release. No ambiguity, no "only if there's a reset". The closest we have to any uncertainty about what's being offered is that they can give us an "equivalent" instead of the actual item that was included in the Merc Pack.

Why has this thread been dredged up from the depths of the forums?

Because the issue hasn't been resolved? Derp

There are still some threads which are significantly more active than this one. This was necro'd from three months ago.
Why can't people wait to see what actually happens before whinging?