For the most part I agree, however if done right the same can be said about any skill. The whole incentive behind putting points into any skill is to eventually get them to a BS level. If there was no BS level then there would be no incentive to skill up, and instead everyone would simply keep militia gear and not bother specing their points.

No, the same can't be said about any skill and the point of skills is not to attain a "BS level". Getting a +10% to damage for assault rifles doesn't magically turn assault rifles into a BS weapon. Your theory that without everything turning into **** gameplay nobody would spend SP and would only use militia gear is entirely divorced from the reality of Dust over the past year, and I seriously have no idea if you've even played the game at this point.

The issue here is that you're calling for a nerf to begin with. It doesn't matter how or why, the fact that you're saying "nerf this" or "this is OP" is what causes CCP to take knee-jerk drastic measures.


FEEDBACK.

You need to post up in the FEEDBACK forums and simply say that you dislike it, not say "This has to be changed because of this this this and that". It doesn't -have- to be changed and being so vocal about it (as your entire corporation seems to have been doing on the General Discussion ffs) is what causes ALL of the Grenades to suddenly become useless.

Then it's the endless threads about how and why Grenades are terrible and only do 50 damage with a 30 second timer.

Eventually, three months down the line they become at least partially useful again (as is the case with the Heavy Machine Gun) when things have finally calmed down.

You're not stating opinions, your demanding changes and then ask for justification when someone disagrees with you.

This is terrible and you should feel terrible.

Did you even read the OP? None of what you just posted applies.

The issue here is that you're calling for a nerf to begin with. It doesn't matter how or why, the fact that you're saying "nerf this" or "this is OP" is what causes CCP to take knee-jerk drastic measures.


FEEDBACK.

You need to post up in the FEEDBACK forums and simply say that you dislike it, not say "This has to be changed because of this this this and that". It doesn't -have- to be changed and being so vocal about it (as your entire corporation seems to have been doing on the General Discussion ffs) is what causes ALL of the Grenades to suddenly become useless.

Then it's the endless threads about how and why Grenades are terrible and only do 50 damage with a 30 second timer.

Eventually, three months down the line they become at least partially useful again (as is the case with the Heavy Machine Gun) when things have finally calmed down.

You're not stating opinions, your demanding changes and then ask for justification when someone disagrees with you.

This is terrible and you should feel terrible.

It's "death from the grave"! That's a legit way to pick up a few extra kills. It's the same in any FPS I've played... if you are about to go down you might as well blow yourself up and take as many of them with you as you can!

weapon triangle nuff said everyone has a weakness and MUST HAVE ONE just making it clear

weapon triangle nuff said everyone has a weakness and MUST HAVE ONE just making it clear

Grenades? Powerful weapons that KILL?

Man, I'd imagine every US Marine must be shaking their head at how unrealistic that is.

Seriously though, they're grenades and they're supposed to kill. Don't nerf them, they're useful for a reason - this is war after all.

Also, save your complaining for when they implement Smart Bombs, which description says that it goes off whenever the user dies.

This is game play and game play trumps any and all real world bull**** so please take that sorry ass **** reasoning somewhere else.

This game has to support the GUN FIGHTS = GOOD FIGHTS idea. If not there will be no aurum items being used when everything 1 shots people. Players will always gravitate towards weapons/vehicles that give them the best opportunity to succeed for their individual skill level. Hence why spamming nades is the cool kid in school now.

Also you want nade tatics ill give you nade tatics.

step 1 hide in area of elevation or with cover from direct gun fire
step 2 drop nano hive
step 3 throw nades randomly
step 4 gtfo out if here with your real world military **** no one cares

Sorry but go tell your US marines grenades have a 2 seconds fuse..... let's see how they feel about that... I've search and didnt find any Nade with less than a 4 second fuse. The BIG BIG issue with nades at the moment it that specific change.... Nades blow up almost instantly.


And tbqh, militia and standard locus nades are way too powerfull in base HP damage.

CCP, seriously, turn back grenade fuse time to 5 seconds. This is silly as can be and not good for the game