Maybe you should dicuss my OP based upon the merits instead of your inherent bias towards the Imperfects. I was very specific in what i was concerned about and am open to hearing all side. If you believe the is no issues with this, then state that and support your arguement. Sadly, I dont see any support for your assertion that either way. Instead there is simply a lecture about imperfects. its true we are abrasive trolls but that doesn't discount our opinions or points regardless how much hatred one has for us.

That truth of the matter if we test every weapon and every fit over and over. We even keep track of each builds statistical data to watch how ccp moves things. We are even test everything in practices to determine actual range of weapons, where fall off begings, and true radius damage of nades and MD. I am personally running 5 alts this build to test everything I can. if you didn't notice either I stated I die because of me and NOT gear this is the same mentality that Imperfects have. We believe you can't nerf skill regardless of how hard ccp is trying too.

I doubt any other corp has been as thurogh as we have in this matter. When changes were made to the nades last build we had 10 weeks of sp and it wasn't an issue and hardly noticed especially me since I didn't play much after new build. It's quite obvious with the skill point reset that nades have added value and that the nade spamming has become prolific because of effectiveness. If you can't discuss theat then plesae just troll and leave the lectures as no one gives a fk its the internet and we aren't going to change for it.

also I have no idea what you are talking about refering to grenade conversation in irc. I like everyone else stay logged in 24/7 but never remember a nade discussion. Sadly I have missed many important conversation simply because they occur at 2 am my time.

grenades should be good, if you have prototype and such. the issue is why would anyone use anything other than the free gernades when they allready kill everything in one hit? Why use flux grenades?

I also think there should be mods that reduce explosive damage.

But yes, the free grenades shouldn't one shot everything. Look at halo, you can throw grenades all the time, but they aren't a super weapon that is unstoppable. Unless you equip the right gear to boost their effect. I don't think they should become duds when you die, that's half of the fun of them.

but like today in a match I blindly threw a grenade and got 4 kills. Maybe the AOE damage should fall off quicker? So they do full damage if your standing on it, but if your 2 feet away it doesn't kill you?

Solutions like these are not solutions. All this would do is delay the time before the problem with grenades becomes very obvious. Something has to actually be done to change the way grenades work. Screwing with skills to make people need to spend a few SP to get bullshit grenades doesn't fix anything.

No, the same can't be said about any skill and the point of skills is not to attain a "BS level". Getting a +10% to damage for assault rifles doesn't magically turn assault rifles into a BS weapon. Your theory that without everything turning into **** gameplay nobody would spend SP and would only use militia gear is entirely divorced from the reality of Dust over the past year, and I seriously have no idea if you've even played the game at this point.