Is just me or do most gun fights end with the other guy throwing a grenade at your feet? Look I get we have lower ehp suits right now but this is just cheap ass bull**** CCP. I am not QQing about the players that do this because ccp has given them the mechanic and they are using it to their benefit.

When it comes down to it CCP we all want GOOD FIGHTS. To many times I am in a gun fight (winning or losing) and I get a grenade in my direction. Honestly, its the smart thing to do right now since 1 milita grenade (aka fking FREE) can kill most non-heavy suits. Have to say the majority of my deaths have been to blind nade spam or gun fight martyrdom.

My concern also reaches to using aurum items. I used to use them all the damn time but refuse too now because of so many CHEAP deaths. I'm an average fps player so i'm not claiming that I shouldn't die to milita stuff because everything kills me pretty much and its ME, not the gear that is the reason.

I don't know what a good solution is here but a few ideas because I need to put something postive in the thread so nova likes me.

-slower grenade throwing motion
-soon as you go down your nade is a dud
-less damage on low end grenades

PS there better never be a real martyrdom mechanic in dust if you want this game to be taken seriously.

Real Mercs use Flux grenades not focus grenades..

Real Mercs use Flux grenades not focus grenades..

I will leave this here.

I'm pretty sure that suicide bombs were at least being considered. I actually think it could work, provided it was a module with sufficiently high requirements that the bomber's fitting would have to revolve around it. (No tossing it on your assault fitting as a middle finger to CQC combatants.) Also, it would need to be visually represented on your suit (or maybe add a ton to your signature profile) and have friendly fire, so that snipers can detonate you to injure your nearby comrades.

Basically, it could be really cool, but only if worked into the game's risk/reward fitting dynamic. I totally agree that CoD style 'martyrdom' is utter bullcrap.

Regarding grenades: I can see how they would be annoying, but I'm not sure what an elegant solution would be. If the guy is still attempting to survive the encounter, I just rush into CQ and hope that he calculated the proper safe distance for himself. (Not very helpful to a heavy, though.)

Grenades? Powerful weapons that KILL?

Man, I'd imagine every US Marine must be shaking their head at how unrealistic that is.

Seriously though, they're grenades and they're supposed to kill. Don't nerf them, they're useful for a reason - this is war after all.

Also, save your complaining for when they implement Smart Bombs, which description says that it goes off whenever the user dies.

Its not CCPs fault players abuse a feature in a game. It is merely a players cowardice that forces them to do this. As opposed to using a grenade hat it is meant for players use chicken **** tactics to compensate for their inability to match up symbols on two joysticks.

TL;DR : if you find yourself throwing alot of grenades youre a ******. Go play CoD.

This is game play and game play trumps any and all real world bull**** so please take that sorry ass **** reasoning somewhere else.

This game has to support the GUN FIGHTS = GOOD FIGHTS idea. If not there will be no aurum items being used when everything 1 shots people. Players will always gravitate towards weapons/vehicles that give them the best opportunity to succeed for their individual skill level. Hence why spamming nades is the cool kid in school now.

Also you want nade tatics ill give you nade tatics.

step 1 hide in area of elevation or with cover from direct gun fire
step 2 drop nano hive
step 3 throw nades randomly
step 4 gtfo out if here with your real world military **** no one cares

Boo hoo someone found a way to punch through your Heavy's armor. Cry some more, I say. Grenades are not nearly as prevalent of an issue as you make them out to be - hell I'll take my chances with the grenades over the snipers and their "snap back" reticles that return to the position they were in when they were fired.

You're seriously bitching about people using something that works - and what's even more silly is that because it works you want them to be nerfed. This is an endless cycle that is going to persist for a ******* eternity because GOD FOR ******* BID YOU EVER DIED AMIRIGHT?

Quit your bitching and grow a pair.

Boo hoo someone found a way to punch through your Heavy's armor. Cry some more, I say. Grenades are not nearly as prevalent of an issue as you make them out to be - hell I'll take my chances with the grenades over the snipers and their "snap back" reticles that return to the position they were in when they were fired.

You're seriously bitching about people using something that works - and what's even more silly is that because it works you want them to be nerfed. This is an endless cycle that is going to persist for a ******* eternity because GOD FOR ******* BID YOU EVER DIED AMIRIGHT?

Quit your bitching and grow a pair.

Edit: Wait a second - aren't you one of the guys that uses his Militia Heavy and an LAV as a fast transport device to negate the heavy's speed in the first place? Why are you even bitching about grenades then with that cheap ass tactic?

Boo hoo someone found a way to punch through your Heavy's armor. Cry some more, I say. Grenades are not nearly as prevalent of an issue as you make them out to be - hell I'll take my chances with the grenades over the snipers and their "snap back" reticles that return to the position they were in when they were fired.

You're seriously bitching about people using something that works - and what's even more silly is that because it works you want them to be nerfed. This is an endless cycle that is going to persist for a ******* eternity because GOD FOR ******* BID YOU EVER DIED AMIRIGHT?

Quit your bitching and grow a pair.

Edit: Wait a second - aren't you one of the guys that uses his Militia Heavy and an LAV as a fast transport device to negate the heavy's speed in the first place? Why are you even bitching about grenades then with that cheap ass tactic?

Boo hoo someone found a way to punch through your Heavy's armor. Cry some more, I say. Grenades are not nearly as prevalent of an issue as you make them out to be - hell I'll take my chances with the grenades over the snipers and their "snap back" reticles that return to the position they were in when they were fired.

You're seriously bitching about people using something that works - and what's even more silly is that because it works you want them to be nerfed. This is an endless cycle that is going to persist for a ******* eternity because GOD FOR ******* BID YOU EVER DIED AMIRIGHT?

Quit your bitching and grow a pair.

Edit: Wait a second - aren't you one of the guys that uses his Militia Heavy and an LAV as a fast transport device to negate the heavy's speed in the first place? Why are you even bitching about grenades then with that cheap ass tactic?

I dont have a heavy toon this build as I run assault and logi, but my all means continue to attack a fictious me you made up to try to destract from the fact that you have no real argurement. Wait, wasn't that the same reason you were banned from IRC dust channel because of stupid random arguements that ended with you attacking everyone. Yeah same old Aeon

Grenades don't need a nerf. Just needs to go back to the 5 sec timer instead of the 2 sec timer after contact.

When COD grenades take more skill to kill... Something's wrong

Stop your trolling.

Wrong Aeon dude. Never was banned from the IRC and the last time I got on the IRC was, pssh, August/September.

But nah, pretty sure that was you last build - the name looks dreadfully familiar. I had a real argument, you're just too carebear to recognize what it was. I'll spell it out for you.

You're terrible at combat and it can't possibly be you so it must be (by your logic) the game-play itself.

Same ****, different person, different day.

Edit: Also, I thought about joining Imperfects - but the sheer amount of that corporation's members bitching about -something- on the forums has detracted that completely. Seriously, any thread that's currently going on usually has someone from Imperfects in there whining about it. Starting to think it must be the inbred genetics.

FURTHER EDIT: Sleepy Zan (rest his soul for me pointing it out) actually raises a good point, this wasn't an issue when Chromosome first came out - only when the reset occurred. Thereby, you're just complaining because you're now on par with everyone else and, well, grenades are effective.

Cheers.

Sleepy Zan (rest his soul for me pointing it out) actually raises a good point, this wasn't an issue when Chromosome first came out - only when the reset occurred. Thereby, you're just complaining because you're now on par with everyone else and, well, grenades are effective.