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Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 427	Posted - 2012.12.21 06:09:00 - [1] - Quote *Attack Methana LAV* Vehicle: Methana High Powered Modules: Shield Resistance Amplifier I, F45 Peripheral Damage Control Unit Low Powered modules: Energized Plating I, Light Armor Repair Unit I, Variable Vane Turbine Turret: 20GJ Scattered Blaster SKILLS Gallente LAV lvl 1 \| Combat Engineering lvl 3 \| Shield Boost Systems lvl 3 \| Shield Adaptation lvl 1 Field Mechanics lvl 4 \| Armor Adaptation lvl 1 \| Armor Repair Systems lvl 1 Additional Skills for PG/CPU Circuitry lvl 2 \| Shield Control lvl 5 \| Surplus Shield Adaptation \| Surplus Combat Engineering Field Mechanics \| Surplus Armor Adaptation \| *=necessary for a tough LAV I leave the Turret Skills out because it was of my preference to use the blaster. The choice of turret is up to you. With the Vane Turbine, you can easily outrun Swarm launchers on straightaways and outmaneuver other LAVs/slow vehicles and forge gunners. The Resistance Amplifier, Energized PLating, and Surplus skills in Shield Control and Field Mechanics make the LAV tough and hardy without the loss of speed. The Damage Control Unit is active, but the LAV is tough enough to give you good warning of when to activate it (as soon as you start getting hit with noticeable damage rate). The Armor Repair is there for when you begin to worry about your LAVs armor. This LAV, which I call the Attack Methana, is bolstered and agile at the cost of 170,200 ISK without Skills. You may have noticed that some modules were level 1 gear. Those can all be swapped for higher level skills and thus higher level modules to make this LAV fitting more durable and efficient. You can even swap out the Methana for a Logistics LAV! This is the first block and it is your right to alter it to your liking. LAVs are commonly underestimated, and have limitless opportunities as all the vehicles do. They can be used as Scouts with Scanning Modules and Profile dampeners, or zippy anti-infantry, or tough anti-armor. Free LAVs will not compare to LAVs of this caliber, in fact they are useless against attack. The free LAVs will be worse at getting you from Point A to Point B because this LAV is even faster. This LAV is a prime example of what the most basic LAV should be. Post Note: I don't want to get rid of free LAVs and I am not saying this vehicle is best nor the worst nor the easiest LAV, that is all dependent on you and your play style. Bojo's School of the Trades.
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 427	Posted - 2012.12.21 17:17:00 - [2] - Quote Here's one written for Caldari users. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=40812&find=unread
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 427	Posted - 2012.12.21 22:18:00 - [3] - Quote Best Use This LAV is the basic variant, a predecessor. This is level 1 in tier, and should be upgraded for your liking. I say it's hardy, and it is, but that doesn't change the definition of an LAV. When you start sustaining damage, get out of dodge. This vehicle relies on its speed and agility as its defensive measures. If you don't care much for speed and agility, rather damage taken and damage dealt, then the HAV is for you, not an LAV. This version can only take so much. This Attack Methana V 1.0 is good for light engagements, usually involving small arms fire. You pop in for a few seconds, get the situation under control and move on before forges and swarms get a read on you. With the Scattered Blaster, you won't have to hang around long to get the job done due to its higher damage. Also, immobile LAVs leave your gunner for the pickings, so encircle your targets but always keep your tactics refreshed, as a predictable LAV won't last more than a couple minutes. Once the job's done, make like a tree and leave because the immobile LAV is as good as dead. If swarms got a lock on you, continue down your current path at top speed and stay as well as you can at that speed. The turbine module will keep you from getting hit when running at top speed. Don't stop until you've taken a look back (L2) and seen that they've gone. Maybe practice your LAV driving skills on a Baloch equipped with Boost Modules so you can have good skills at dodging swarms. Forge's and HAVs are another thing. They can predict where you will go. But the speed can make it a tricky target at a distance. However, if you do find yourself ambushed by a forge, activate all non-emergency modules and quickly get some distance and coverage between you and the Forge Operator. Take good care to make evasive actions that are more random seemingly than patternized. However, that doesn't mean make a hard bank, as you will lose velocity and become an easier target. If come over a hill to find a HAV facing you, zoom right past if they are close enough or redirect your vehicle to the left or right and pray for some cover. Drive over some hills and avoid further detection. Depending on the turret, you may be able to evade a lot of damage.
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 427	Posted - 2012.12.23 07:39:00 - [4] - Quote If you know of any more useful information and knowledge that you would like to pass on about Light Attack Vehicles primarily used against infantry, feel free to post on this thread.
1CLIP 1KILL Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 87	Posted - 2012.12.23 14:02:00 - [5] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: If you know of any more useful information and knowledge that you would like to pass on about Light Attack Vehicles primarily used against infantry, feel free to post on this thread. Try a good MT instead of Blaster.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1058	Posted - 2012.12.24 20:06:00 - [6] - Quote Is this still viable this build? I'm mainly using armor hardeners and boosts right now. Also why does it have a shield resistance amplifier?
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1058	Posted - 2012.12.24 22:14:00 - [7] - Quote 1CLIP 1KILL wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: If you know of any more useful information and knowledge that you would like to pass on about Light Attack Vehicles primarily used against infantry, feel free to post on this thread. Try a good MT instead of Blaster. Blasters are more reliable
Free Healing L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 234	Posted - 2012.12.27 05:25:00 - [8] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: If you know of any more useful information and knowledge that you would like to pass on about Light Attack Vehicles primarily used against infantry, feel free to post on this thread. -Avoid me, i'm not good for the health of any LAV as I am an Expert with AV grenades. -If you have a blaster or missile turret, park somewhere the Turret Gunner won't easily be shot. The accuracy of the Turret goes up immensely when the Vehicle is stopped. Keep the faith.
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 427	Posted - 2012.12.28 04:53:00 - [9] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Is this still viable this build? I'm mainly using armor hardeners and boosts right now. Also why does it have a shield resistance amplifier? I find that the resistance amplifier helps out on shield regeneration. It's just another substitute for extenders and boosters and what-not. The resistance amplifier pretty much acts like a shield extender, but since you aren't actually adding more shielding, the ratio of shield regeneration to shield damage is better. I started LAV driving last build, but this version was built around this build. I like passive modules, because you never know when a forge is going to hit. I've created much hardier variants of the Methana and much faster ones too that are also cheaper, but I think that this is a good starting ground as it is slightly harder to use so that when you evolve, you will be well adept at LAV control. Still a good LAV if you use it properly though.
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 427	Posted - 2013.02.02 19:44:00 - [10] - Quote Bump for the upcoming Relaunch of the School.

Henry FitzEmpress Reaper Galactic 22	Posted - 2013.02.17 02:08:00 - [11] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Bump for the upcoming Relaunch of the School. Is school in session yet? I've skilled into both Saga and Methana but I don't last long. my biggest issue is the poor handling and how exposed the driver and gunner are to small arms fire. That and when I bump into something even at medium speeds, the LAV explodes gloriously. I think I'm better suited on foot for now.
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 427	Posted - 2013.02.17 08:40:00 - [12] - Quote Henry FitzEmpress wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: Bump for the upcoming Relaunch of the School. Is school in session yet? I've skilled into both Saga and Methana but I don't last long. my biggest issue is the poor handling and how exposed the driver and gunner are to small arms fire. That and when I bump into something even at medium speeds, the LAV explodes gloriously. I think I'm better suited on foot for now. Yes this school is in session...kind of amazed you found this thread actually
Delirium Inferno Chernova Industries 34	Posted - 2013.02.17 10:09:00 - [13] - Quote So what do you do when you need to capture a base? 170,200 ISK is a lot to just leave hanging around.
Henry FitzEmpress Reaper Galactic 22	Posted - 2013.02.17 10:26:00 - [14] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Henry FitzEmpress wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: Bump for the upcoming Relaunch of the School. Is school in session yet? I've skilled into both Saga and Methana but I don't last long. my biggest issue is the poor handling and how exposed the driver and gunner are to small arms fire. That and when I bump into something even at medium speeds, the LAV explodes gloriously. I think I'm better suited on foot for now. Yes this school is in session...kind of amazed you found this thread actually I searched for "LAV" cause I was wondering if anybody was having any luck with them since the reset.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1058	Posted - 2013.02.17 16:55:00 - [15] - Quote I think I'll look into this IMO, it should be tankier; my current LAV fit doesn't have a problem with swarms because it can take a few hits before getting into cover- AV grenades are a different story, since you'll get hit by 3 of them before the LAV gets up to speed.
Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors 183	Posted - 2013.02.17 17:10:00 - [16] - Quote I've gone with the armor . Slower but its very surprising. 2 plates and hardener in lows and scanner and DC high. I use it long range against installations or sneak up on tanks from behind. 150-200k
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium 294	Posted - 2013.02.17 17:45:00 - [17] - Quote Delirium Inferno wrote: So what do you do when you need to capture a base? 170,200 ISK is a lot to just leave hanging around. Good vehicles should be used with a squad and the driver should only get out when you've found a safe spot. At that point you can call in your orbital strikes or repair any armor damage. To capture objectives you should have one of your passengers jump out. Circle around and pick them up when they are ready to move on.
Alderstaz Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.02.17 17:49:00 - [18] - Quote How do you deal with a basic three Proximity Mine trap? I haven't seen any LAVs withstand them unless I place them wrong and they all don't trigger. Your setup has made my level one Swarmer not worth the clone. What's required to survive basic mines from all from an Assault person(not spending SP on anti-armor)? Is it possible? Just curious if LAVs will ever not have to worry about non Anti-armor fitting (3 A/V grenades OR 3 proximity mines, basically one slot from standard attack fitting).
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 427	Posted - 2013.02.17 18:12:00 - [19] - Quote Alderstaz wrote: How do you deal with a basic three Proximity Mine trap? I haven't seen any LAVs withstand them unless I place them wrong and they all don't trigger. Your setup has made my level one Swarmer not worth the clone. What's required to survive basic mines from all from an Assault person(not spending SP on anti-armor)? Is it possible? Just curious if LAVs will ever not have to worry about non Anti-armor fitting (3 A/V grenades OR 3 proximity mines, basically one slot from standard attack fitting). I have run over 6-9 of them at once with this variant. I was going fast enough to get far enough ahead of the first row, but it detonated all the other rows so kablam. I know that my other variants can take a couple AV nades if done right. It really depends on module level, skills, etc. But it's been a while since I've run over proxy mines. Delirium Inferno wrote: So what do you do when you need to capture a base? 170,200 ISK is a lot to just leave hanging around. An LAV can be defined as a Light Armored Vehicle or a Light Attack Vehicle. This variant is a Light Attack, it's a killing weapon not a transport. Scheneighnay McBob wrote: IMO, it should be tankier; my current LAV fit doesn't have a problem with swarms because it can take a few hits before getting into cover- AV grenades are a different story, since you'll get hit by 3 of them before the LAV gets up to speed. This was written a while ago, I may have to update it but the Powerplants used to increase both acceleration and velocity, enough to where you could have a swarm a meter on your tail and have it stay there till it dies out. I will update this as it seems Swarm Launchers are faster these days, at least that's what it seems. I've had tanked out Methana's this is just a training one. I will need to update this as several changes have occurred.
0 Try Harder Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 114	Posted - 2013.02.17 20:09:00 - [20] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Swarm Launchers are faster these days CCP decided swarm launchers required too much skill to use, so they made the missiles faster. Oh, and they can turn more corners and are slightly better at compensating for elevation. =/ I agree that it's still worth it to get a nice LAV if you find yourself using them all the time. Especially for corp battles. Bringing in a free LAV to a corp battle when you can use a nice one is generally a bad idea. I like the idea of having a nice transport LAV fitted just for this use, even if it will be destroyed. There is an abandoned vehicle timer in corp battles, and it sucks. Yes, the absolute best LAV can still be one shot by a forge or HAV, but why not get the additional buffer against crap like militia forges, swarms and AV grenades? At least in a nice LAV you can move faster and not get one shot by every basic AV in the game. Collision damage is far too high now too. Hitting a small bump can occasionally bring your shields to zero and damage your armor in a methana, and it's even worse for the saga. The other reason why the methana is nice as an attack LAV (over the shield) is that it has more PG and is better suited for a small blaster turret. The shield LAV favors CPU over PG, and the missile turret has been nerfed so much that it's almost completely ineffective against enemy infantry. If you try to fit a decent small blaster turret on a shield LAV you will have to sacrifice much of the LAV's survivability for the turret. With the PG/CPU lowered for all vehicles, the turret choices have become extremely restrictive. It no longer makes sense to put a missile turret on a methana. If you're using small missile, you need the saga, but the small missile turret was nerfed so the blaster is definitely worth it for infantry. I found that your damage increase skills do transfer over to your gunner. The small railgun is simply ineffective at killing or damaging anything, but for testing purposes I tried using it on an enemy CRU. The small turrets seem to get an initial damage increase from the skills of the person who called in the LAV, and then the turret damage is further increased by your gunner's skill points too. It's worth it to skill into small turrets if you're going to use them. You'll also see a large damage increase if you are the gunner in the LAV too. This is not true for the large turrets. So +1 for the guide, and I think it'd be helpful for new peeps if you took another look @ it.

Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors 183	Posted - 2013.02.17 21:51:00 - [21] - Quote Small accelerated turrets do wonders against installation turrets. They can hit outside their detection range.
0 Try Harder Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 114	Posted - 2013.02.17 21:54:00 - [22] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: Good vehicles should be used with a squad and the driver should only get out when you've found a safe spot. ... To capture objectives you should have one of your passengers jump out. There have been situations where I've jumped out of my shiny new 2.2m Sagaris to capture an objective xD. Not recommended for pub matches, but sometimes the best option is the best option.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1058	Posted - 2013.02.24 02:20:00 - [23] - Quote We've been doing some experamentalashun, and are working on perfecting the combination of the "tank" methana and the "healer" methana. Stay tuned while we continue to crash them into each other on accident.
Henry FitzEmpress Reaper Galactic 22	Posted - 2013.02.27 15:12:00 - [24] - Quote Bojo - What is your opinion about the torque increase modules? I'm not by my PS3 so I can't remember the exact name - I think Jovian Powerplant. Does not increase top speed but assuming it increases acceleration (have not confirmed this by testing). I may be imagining it, but I seem to be able to control the LAV when I have at least one fitted.
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 449	Posted - 2013.02.27 18:40:00 - [25] - Quote Henry FitzEmpress wrote: Bojo - What is your opinion about the torque increase modules? I'm not by my PS3 so I can't remember the exact name - I think Jovian Powerplant. Does not increase top speed but assuming it increases acceleration (have not confirmed this by testing). I may be imagining it, but I seem to be able to control the LAV when I have at least one fitted. No you are correct. The Powerplants have great benefits to the LAV. However this was written back in the day, back when they increased top speed so I was outrunning Swarms. However now they are purely an acceleration booster but it does seem that the LAV is much more responsive with one on. They are a good module but not as good as they were. The best use of them is getting away from some nut with AV nades.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1069	Posted - 2013.02.27 22:59:00 - [26] - Quote Torque modules are always good- top speed is meaningless if you can't reach it. And the torque modules let you reach it more easily.
Henry FitzEmpress Reaper Galactic 22	Posted - 2013.02.28 17:42:00 - [27] - Quote Bojo/McBob - thanks for the replies. Will you be doing any updated fittings for the LAVs? Maybe 4 or 5 fittings for each that we could try out/piggyback off/ customize? Would like to see what other people have come up with. On a related note, does the bojo school have a public chat channel?
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 459	Posted - 2013.02.28 21:55:00 - [28] - Quote Henry FitzEmpress wrote: Bojo/McBob - thanks for the replies. Will you be doing any updated fittings for the LAVs? Maybe 4 or 5 fittings for each that we could try out/piggyback off/ customize? Would like to see what other people have come up with. On a related note, does the bojo school have a public chat channel? Yes, yes, yes. We will be updating because this game does, so we have to readjust fittings to compensate. I haven't gotten to updating this one because I don't have Armor Adaptation again yet. Maybe 3 fittings, so some secrets can lie in wait in the archives... Our Pub Channel was never announced but it's Bojo.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 144	Posted - 2013.03.01 06:09:00 - [29] - Quote since you seem to know all about lavs is using the proto blasters worth it? or should I stick to advanced on my saga
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 460	Posted - 2013.03.01 06:51:00 - [30] - Quote Now turrets aren't exactly my forte so you've caught me off guard. But I'll do my best. With the Standard Scattered Blasters I have, my gunners seem to suffice because LAV combat is mostly very close combat. The scattered blasters are like the equivalent to a shotgun turret so they kill quick. So I've never bothered let alone had SP to go beyond Neutron Blasters. With Proto blasters, you might push the PG too far, especially on a Saga. They require 26 more PG and that's enough to break the threshold of some modules. But if you manage to get enough PG and it's tanked surely enough, go for it.

Sontie VENGEANCE FOR HIRE 99	Posted - 2013.03.01 10:34:00 - [31] - Quote One of my alts been experimenting with LAV's and they are a lot of fun. He specced shield tank in a prior experiment so is much better with shield modules and yet... methana > Saga. Saga can get ridiculously fast running twin jovians, but it has TERRIBLE handling. It has a tendency to roll or drive on two wheels. The Methana, while lacking the passive shield regen of the Saga, has much better handling and seems to survive much longer too. Just sucks that if you leave a vehicle for to long, it blows up.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 145	Posted - 2013.03.01 10:54:00 - [32] - Quote thanks for your input man I'll see what I can do and if all else fails then it goes on the tank
Henry FitzEmpress Reaper Galactic 22	Posted - 2013.03.01 17:02:00 - [33] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Yes, yes, yes. We will be updating because this game does, so we have to readjust fittings to compensate. I haven't gotten to updating this one because I don't have Armor Adaptation again yet. Maybe 3 fittings, so some secrets can lie in wait in the archives... Our Pub Channel was never announced but it's Bojo. Cool, I'll keep an eye out for them.
0 Try Harder Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 133	Posted - 2013.03.01 17:16:00 - [34] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: since you seem to know all about lavs is using the proto blasters worth it? or should I stick to advanced on my saga Depends on how much you're willing to sacrifice and what your other skill points are. Like Bojo said, proto turrets are expensive. Saga focuses on CPU and is lacking on PG making it easier to fit missiles instead of blasters. You might need a methena to take full advantage of a blaster turret without losing more tank than you feel comfortable losing. It might be possible if you use the best PG upgrades in the low slots of your Saga along with the max PG+ skill. Gurista Saga (the BPO from the voucher) has the same PG/CPU as the normal Saga, but less shield/armor. It has the highest shield recharge of any vehicle I have seen before (40 I believe). Anyways, it might work better using a normal Saga and not the Gurista one (if you have it) so that you can get a little more tank from your vehicle.
Delirium Inferno Chernova Industries 42	Posted - 2013.03.01 23:02:00 - [35] - Quote Been toying around with the Creon Methana they've been giving away. My set up uses a damage control unit and active heat sink in the high slots with armor plating, armor repair, and energized plating in the low slots. And of course the scatter blaster. Definitely pretty fun, this was just the push I needed to finally convince myself to spec into LAVs.
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 461	Posted - 2013.03.02 01:54:00 - [36] - Quote Delirium Inferno wrote: Been toying around with the Creon Methana they've been giving away. My set up uses a damage control unit and active heat sink in the high slots with armor plating, armor repair, and energized plating in the low slots. And of course the scatter blaster. Definitely pretty fun, this was just the push I needed to finally convince myself to spec into LAVs. I'm glad to hear that. I've seen so few proper LAVs that when I do come across one (friend or foe) it really makes me happy, because taking one on without proper gear can be a challenge.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative 5	Posted - 2013.03.03 07:37:00 - [37] - Quote 0 Try Harder wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: since you seem to know all about lavs is using the proto blasters worth it? or should I stick to advanced on my saga Depends on how much you're willing to sacrifice and what your other skill points are. Like Bojo said, proto turrets are expensive. Saga focuses on CPU and is lacking on PG making it easier to fit missiles instead of blasters. You might need a methena to take full advantage of a blaster turret without losing more tank than you feel comfortable losing. It might be possible if you use the best PG upgrades in the low slots of your Saga along with the max PG+ skill. Gurista Saga (the BPO from the voucher) has the same PG/CPU as the normal Saga, but less shield/armor. It has the highest shield recharge of any vehicle I have seen before (40 I believe). Anyways, it might work better using a normal Saga and not the Gurista one (if you have it) so that you can get a little more tank from your vehicle. btw recharge base is 35 and i highly suggest the Gurista saga over the normal Saga as of right now. the saga just has to bad of handling to make up for a slight increase in shielding. this might change if there is a fix on the saga. as it stands its highly prone to rolls/flip/spinout/tossed like a rag doll by mass drivers and larger rounds. yes had a mass driver flip a saga with 2 rounds so... i was really mad at the isk wasted when I couldn't get it to land on it wheels and move away from the HMG fire. the recharge rate is also the fast of any vehicle even shield tanks and helps a ton to return quickly to the battle. that aside Bojo do you plan on making one for the shield one as the link posted is now locked. i do like seing more LAV's. i prefer shield just for swarms are my biggest pain as they are most common AV weapon i run into and would like more update to date suggestions for mine.
Delirium Inferno Chernova Industries 42	Posted - 2013.03.03 14:28:00 - [38] - Quote Ok, so what's the tip for handling AV grenade users? Is it basically never stop moving? Because each time I get my gunner into position there will be an AV grenadier and I can take a couple of those without dying but rarely escape before it's too late.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1075	Posted - 2013.03.03 17:01:00 - [39] - Quote Delirium Inferno wrote: Ok, so what's the tip for handling AV grenade users? Is it basically never stop moving? Because each time I get my gunner into position there will be an AV grenadier and I can take a couple of those without dying but rarely escape before it's too late. The bad part about AV grenades is that you won't know they're there until your LAV is almost destroyed, and there's a 100% chance you're about to lose your LAV due to the easy-mode of AV grenades. The only solution is to stay at a distance, watch for the AVer's name on the killfeed, and carry a passenger to jump out and shove a shotgun/HMG up their ass.
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 478	Posted - 2013.03.03 18:44:00 - [40] - Quote ladwar wrote: that aside Bojo do you plan on making one for the shield one as the link posted is now locked. i do like seing more LAV's. i prefer shield just for swarms are my biggest pain as they are most common AV weapon i run into and would like more update to date suggestions for mine. Yeah I plan to get a Saga, just not yet. I might go for the Limbus first but maybe not. I've got to put my SP where it's needed and only when I think that I can waste the 50K SP, then I'll give the Saga a go.

Jackof All-Trades Bojo's School of the Trades 80	Posted - 2013.03.04 07:14:00 - [41] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: I've gone with the armor . Slower but its very surprising. 2 plates and hardener in lows and scanner and DC high. I use it long range against installations or sneak up on tanks from behind. 150-200k Honestly dude, what are your Methanas on? I've gone against you once while you were in one, and you even survived multiple forge gun hits. That ain't normal.
Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors 198	Posted - 2013.03.04 13:51:00 - [42] - Quote Jackof All-Trades wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: I've gone with the armor . Slower but its very surprising. 2 plates and hardener in lows and scanner and DC high. I use it long range against installations or sneak up on tanks from behind. 150-200k Honestly dude, what are your Methanas on? I've gone against you once while you were in one, and you even survived multiple forge gun hits. That ain't normal. I'm a logi so I forgo an active armor repper for 2 plates and an active armor resistance module, plus a damage control. I'm also addicted to active scanners so they get put on as well. I'll try and only be in the open in hostile areas while I have both modules on (which lasts a full minute) then jump back in to cover. I can hop out then, and repair any damage as necessary. With the most expensive version of that I can get up to about 3200 HP, and then the +34% (i think?) resist from resistance modules (DC and armor). This means my EHP is about 4300ish. AND My field mechanics isn't even level V yet. If you catch me without those modules inactive though, I'll melt after just 2 AV grenades I think.
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 510	Posted - 2013.03.05 03:53:00 - [43] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: Jackof All-Trades wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: I've gone with the armor . Slower but its very surprising. 2 plates and hardener in lows and scanner and DC high. I use it long range against installations or sneak up on tanks from behind. 150-200k Honestly dude, what are your Methanas on? I've gone against you once while you were in one, and you even survived multiple forge gun hits. That ain't normal. I'm a logi so I forgo an active armor repper for 2 plates and an active armor resistance module, plus a damage control. I'm also addicted to active scanners so they get put on as well. I'll try and only be in the open in hostile areas while I have both modules on (which lasts a full minute) then jump back in to cover. I can hop out then, and repair any damage as necessary. With the most expensive version of that I can get up to about 3200 HP, and then the +34% (i think?) resist from resistance modules (DC and armor). This means my EHP is about 4300ish. AND My field mechanics isn't even level V yet. When I switch to my LAV driver dropsuit, I can have a repair tool that will repair vehicles for >115 HP/s plus skill bonuses (still not sure they apply), which is basically equivalent to a light armor repairer without a cooldown. If you catch me without those modules inactive though, I'll melt after just 2 AV grenades I think. Hmm... it seems that plates push my PG far, especially two of them. How do you manage the two plates+active hardener+scanner? Polycrystalline plates?
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 518	Posted - 2013.03.06 06:24:00 - [44] - Quote Think I found a god-set up 2 Azeoptric Ward Shield Extenders, 60 mm Nanofibre Plates, and CPU/PG Upgrades I took so much damage with it my head spun. I got hit by swarms, a tank, and a forge all in one sitting and still managed to go off and repair my Methana that had >1/3 armor left. I think I'll make a different methana post on it and I will need to do some more research into it, but it looks promising. PS: I lost the methana when it got it's wheels stuck in the air balancing on a hill
Kesi Raae Kaae Much Crying Old Experts 46	Posted - 2013.03.06 13:27:00 - [45] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: PS: I lost the methana when it got it's wheels stuck in the air balancing on a hill Standard LAV strategum
Bojo The Fantastic The Black Cresent 0	Posted - 2013.03.14 03:33:00 - [46] - Quote So Azeoptric Shield Extenders on Methana do in fact (counter intuitive to many) work wonders. Although it's set up as a shield tank, sufficient skills can render your armor to be over 2100 at least and your shields over 1800 at least with Ward Extenders and use of armor. The discussion now is Shield Tank, Armor Tank, or a twain of the two? I honestly like the twain, that way your vehicle is not specifically susceptible to any weapon in particular. However the balancing of shields and armor takes up module room that would otherwise render a specific tanking more capable in certain grounds. For instance, using the Ward Extenders forced me to lose a low mod to PG Upgrade and I couldn't fit an armor repairer, my favorite module. I still managed armor plates though and energized plating, but it brings my Methana closer to a taxi than ever, it's all just extra HP tacked onto it, nothing special, no turbines, no scanner, no damage mods or hardeners (just the passive) So when it comes to tanking, the middle ground may prove best in terms of a tough tack, but you lose the capabilities a more "Dedicated LAV" would have.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative 17	Posted - 2013.03.15 03:33:00 - [47] - Quote well i did make to the charybdis and im testing out fitting for it. but for the saga this is what i see works most; azeotropic shield extender, light converse shield booster, supplemental shield amplifier and 2 powergrid expansion units. you can replace the shield amplifier for a shield hardener but just take note that they do only last 10 sec with a 30 cooldown. i fit blasters without much trouble with this. the shield extenders on a methana make it more balanced which isn't bad but the only bad thing is with 2 you have no booster for it and it takes a rather long time to recharge on a armor LAV so you won't be at full hp most of the time meaning you either won't see a big difference or be put out of the fight for a while after each encounter.
Henry FitzEmpress Reaper Galactic 23	Posted - 2013.03.17 05:14:00 - [48] - Quote ladwar wrote: well i did make to the charybdis and im testing out fitting for it. but for the saga this is what i see works most; azeotropic shield extender, light converse shield booster, supplemental shield amplifier and 2 powergrid expansion units. you can replace the shield amplifier for a shield hardener but just take note that they do only last 10 sec with a 30 cooldown. i fit blasters without much trouble with this. the shield extenders on a methana make it more balanced which isn't bad but the only bad thing is with 2 you have no booster for it and it takes a rather long time to recharge on a armor LAV so you won't be at full hp most of the time meaning you either won't see a big difference or be put out of the fight for a while after each encounter. For your Saga, do you have enough PG to swap out a power grid expansion for a power diagnostic system? Works for mine with all the other same modules and gives me an extra 5% to shields and recharge. You'll lose 5% pg doing the swap. Not sure what type of turret you equipped. That might be the difference.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative 18	Posted - 2013.03.17 07:35:00 - [49] - Quote nope had to do the powergrid upgrades(10%ers) for blasters, but with other two it works just fine. the turrets do make a huge diff but i don't have maxed out pg skills the booster also matters which one you use for the pg they need
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Daringly Inserting Large Dangerous Objects 21	Posted - 2013.03.19 02:19:00 - [50] - Quote just an idea but have you tried a shield repper and shield extender on the high, a armor repper, a cpu upgrade and a armor hardener for the low slots? i just fitted that and it worked for my just on fitting. had about 1000 shield and 1889 armor (the credron methana). it would have both shields and armor and a repper for both. it going to see how works on a normal methana once i get it.

Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 596	Posted - 2013.03.19 02:23:00 - [51] - Quote ladwar wrote: just an idea but have you tried a shield repper and shield extender on the high, a armor repper, a cpu upgrade and a armor hardener for the low slots? i just fitted that and it worked for my just on fitting. had about 1000 shield and 1889 armor (the credron methana). it would have both shields and armor and a repper for both. it going to see how works on a normal methana once i get it. I'll sick my rats on the project.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 697	Posted - 2013.03.19 03:17:00 - [52] - Quote well i tried to see how fast i could get a methana to go today, it turns out the answer is far too fast. I dumped everything and just went for speed, I stuck 2 altered nanfibre chassis mods on and a jovian powerplant, for the high slots i fitted a nitrous booster and a shield extender so i had some tank, the basic speed was listed as 52m/s. called it in in manus peak OMS spent the 3 minutes the LAV survived barely avoiding crashes, fishtailing, and swearing my head off. I also spent a significant time airborne
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 596	Posted - 2013.03.19 03:46:00 - [53] - Quote gbghg wrote: well i tried to see how fast i could get a methana to go today, it turns out the answer is far too fast. I dumped everything and just went for speed, I stuck 2 altered nanfibre chassis mods on and a jovian powerplant, for the high slots i fitted a nitrous booster and a shield extender so i had some tank, the basic speed was listed as 52m/s. called it in in manus peak OMS spent the 3 minutes the LAV survived barely avoiding crashes, fishtailing, and swearing my head off. I also spent a significant time airborne LOL you're telling us. We did this test with some Bunny help and dear god we flew. It was so funny when you ran someone over though, popped air like a slow mo Michael Jordan dunk.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 697	Posted - 2013.03.19 03:57:00 - [54] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: gbghg wrote: well i tried to see how fast i could get a methana to go today, it turns out the answer is far too fast. I dumped everything and just went for speed, I stuck 2 altered nanfibre chassis mods on and a jovian powerplant, for the high slots i fitted a nitrous booster and a shield extender so i had some tank, the basic speed was listed as 52m/s. called it in in manus peak OMS spent the 3 minutes the LAV survived barely avoiding crashes, fishtailing, and swearing my head off. I also spent a significant time airborne LOL you're telling us. We did this test with some Bunny help and dear god we flew. It was so funny when you ran someone over though, popped air like a slow mo Michael Jordan dunk. didn't manage to actualy run someone over as some douche pulled out a swarm early on and the lack of any kind of reper or hardeners meant i had to keep my distance, but i actually flew over a squadmates dropship as it was taking off, it's my racing fit if i ever end up in an empty corp battle
Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors 278	Posted - 2013.03.19 13:45:00 - [55] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: Jackof All-Trades wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: I've gone with the armor . Slower but its very surprising. 2 plates and hardener in lows and scanner and DC high. I use it long range against installations or sneak up on tanks from behind. 150-200k Honestly dude, what are your Methanas on? I've gone against you once while you were in one, and you even survived multiple forge gun hits. That ain't normal. I'm a logi so I forgo an active armor repper for 2 plates and an active armor resistance module, plus a damage control. I'm also addicted to active scanners so they get put on as well. I'll try and only be in the open in hostile areas while I have both modules on (which lasts a full minute) then jump back in to cover. I can hop out then, and repair any damage as necessary. With the most expensive version of that I can get up to about 3200 HP, and then the +34% (i think?) resist from resistance modules (DC and armor). This means my EHP is about 4300ish. AND My field mechanics isn't even level V yet. When I switch to my LAV driver dropsuit, I can have a repair tool that will repair vehicles for >115 HP/s plus skill bonuses (still not sure they apply), which is basically equivalent to a light armor repairer without a cooldown. If you catch me without those modules inactive though, I'll melt after just 2 AV grenades I think. Hmm... it seems that plates push my PG far, especially two of them. How do you manage the two plates+active hardener+scanner? Polycrystalline plates? Did you end up figuring this out? I think I use the lowest PG plates out there, maybe the poly crystal. Also the combat engineering and armor enhancements helps a lot.
CPL Bloodstone SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 19	Posted - 2013.03.19 14:36:00 - [56] - Quote Jackof All-Trades wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: I've gone with the armor . Slower but its very surprising. 2 plates and hardener in lows and scanner and DC high. I use it long range against installations or sneak up on tanks from behind. 150-200k Honestly dude, what are your Methanas on? I've gone against you once while you were in one, and you even survived multiple forge gun hits. That ain't normal. I hit an lav the other day with 2 complex damage mods and a level 4 breach forge gun and it lived.....barely had any armor left but it survived... I was like ... O.O something worth hunting! then i got sniped in the head. I dont know if it was Bojo or not but i applaud you! level 5 weaponry level 5 forge gun level 3 advanced fg ____________________________________________________________________________________________ level 4 breach fg + 2 complex damage mods with level 3 heavy suit. This is my standard Tank killer setup i run in pub mode which 1 shots militia tanks and most lav's.... You almost made me bring out my proto with 3 complex damage mods and my fg. but too many snipers on the field
Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors 280	Posted - 2013.03.19 16:58:00 - [57] - Quote CPL Bloodstone wrote: Jackof All-Trades wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: I've gone with the armor . Slower but its very surprising. 2 plates and hardener in lows and scanner and DC high. I use it long range against installations or sneak up on tanks from behind. 150-200k Honestly dude, what are your Methanas on? I've gone against you once while you were in one, and you even survived multiple forge gun hits. That ain't normal. I hit an lav the other day with 2 complex damage mods and a level 4 breach forge gun and it lived.....barely had any armor left but it survived... I was like ... O.O something worth hunting! then i got sniped in the head. I dont know if it was Bojo or not but i applaud you! level 5 weaponry level 5 forge gun level 3 advanced fg ____________________________________________________________________________________________ level 4 breach fg + 2 complex damage mods with level 3 heavy suit. This is my standard Tank killer setup i run in pub mode which 1 shots militia tanks and most lav's.... You almost made me bring out my proto with 3 complex damage mods and my fg. but too many snipers on the field ____________________________________________________________________________________________ I also drive a methana and I do like that jeep alot. I have FM V and Shields IV, circuitry 5 and power 5. So i can load anything i want. Trying to find a good fit. I appreciate this blog Yep the armor methanas can take a beating. I'm having success with fragmented missile turrets and with proto gunners because they can take a little more beating as well. I'd like to know what the various weapon efficiencies for the FG is against a LAV vs. HAV though. Wonder if they are the same? I've also heard that the logi LAVs have some built in resistances, but I cannot confirm this...yet. Maybe weapons (SL/FG) just have lower efficiencies against them. I'm awaiting to see what the price is to refit these when they change vehicle module costs here in a few days.
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 601	Posted - 2013.03.19 19:34:00 - [58] - Quote CPL Bloodstone wrote: I hit an lav the other day with 2 complex damage mods and a level 4 breach forge gun and it lived.....barely had any armor left but it survived... I was like ... O.O something worth hunting! then i got sniped in the head. I dont know if it was Bojo or not but i applaud you! level 5 weaponry level 5 forge gun level 3 advanced fg ____________________________________________________________________________________________ level 4 breach fg + 2 complex damage mods with level 3 heavy suit. This is my standard Tank killer setup i run in pub mode which 1 shots militia tanks and most lav's.... You almost made me bring out my proto with 3 complex damage mods and my fg. but too many snipers on the field ____________________________________________________________________________________________ I also drive a methana and I do like that jeep alot. I have FM V and Shields IV, circuitry 5 and power 5. So i can load anything i want. Trying to find a good fit. I appreciate this blog I can only be sure about one thing....LAVs need windshields and a roof. One of the DJINN's was camping on a roof with an Assault forge. The first shot maybe got my shields to half or greater (and it has armor>shields) but the second shot OHK'ed me out of my LAV, and I lay there bleeding out watching him slowly destroy my Methana. It was so saddening. Your LAV has as much HP as your Merc in the end...BTW it might have taken 4 Assault Forge shots but I can't be sure (I think when I was shot out it hurt the Methana a little at least)
Hendrick Pieterzen Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.03.20 14:26:00 - [59] - Quote Hi, I just started playing the beta and had a question about the LAV. Sorry if it's a noob question. I saw the advanced LAVs can repair vehicles and mercs. Do both versions of the logistic vehicle repair armor or does one do shields? Wondering because one version has an armor skill prerequisite and the other has a shield skill. I don't recall the names off the top of my head. Thanks.
Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors 282	Posted - 2013.03.20 14:30:00 - [60] - Quote You can put shield transporters and remote armor repairers on any vehicle. There are light and heavy versions though. I haven't figured out how to get the heavy ones on the militia LAV yet, but you can put them on the STD I believe, but they are pretty squishy. However you may be referring to the dropsuit armor repair. In which case its only armor that it reps. But even then that function has been disabled apparently, until further notice.

Hendrick Pieterzen Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.03.20 19:44:00 - [61] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: You can put shield transporters and remote armor repairers on any vehicle. There are light and heavy versions though. I haven't figured out how to get the heavy ones on the militia LAV yet, but you can put them on the STD I believe, but they are pretty squishy. However you may be referring to the dropsuit armor repair. In which case its only armor that it reps. But even then that function has been disabled apparently, until further notice. OK, thanks for the reply. I must have misunderstood the descriptions in game. I thought that the advanced LAVs have a "built in" capability to repair shields or armor depending on the model. Spending all that time and skill points to get advanced and then having to use up a module slot for repairing does not seem to be worth it.
Fox Gaden DUST University Ivy League 236	Posted - 2013.03.26 16:09:00 - [62] - Quote There is some useful discussion in this thread, but is the original post current as of this build? Have you edited it Bojo?
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 149	Posted - 2013.03.26 16:58:00 - [63] - Quote recently put ion blasters on my shield/armor lavs talk about nasty
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 149	Posted - 2013.03.26 17:01:00 - [64] - Quote is putting a shield rep on my lav worth the decrease in resistance? thinking about trying it out but not sure
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 711	Posted - 2013.03.26 22:53:00 - [65] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: is putting a shield rep on my lav worth the decrease in resistance? thinking about trying it out but not sure Decrease in resistance?
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Daringly Inserting Large Dangerous Objects 49	Posted - 2013.03.26 23:08:00 - [66] - Quote you running a shield LAV or armor?
0 Try Harder Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz 162	Posted - 2013.03.26 23:16:00 - [67] - Quote And what kind of LAV? I have a gurista, and it has unbelievably high shield regen (much higher than a Sagaris'). I found out that there's absolutely no need for a booster on that LAV. On other LAVs it depends on a lot of things. Shield boosters are not anywhere near as good as armor reps, and the shield hardener (activated) only lasts for 10sec with a 30sec CD. Armor is much better. Also, armor LAVs have significantly more PG than shield, and the limiting factor on both vehicles for fits is PG. For my regular Saga, I have one with a booster and one without. I'm still undecided on which I like more, so it's up to you. The one w/o a shield booster can take significantly more punishment, but you have to wait a long time for the regen. The booster lets you take hits more often than the one without. In a LAV, it's not always an option to wait for your shield regen like it is in a tank. Yes, it is possible and probably recommended, but there have been times for me where it's optimal to take a beating, use cover to regen shield (w/booster) and then continue on. If you're in a tank and you see people, you can tell if they have swarms or a forge. In a LAV, you have to worry that they might have AV grenades, and the LAV drops significantly faster than a HAV to grenades.
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 720	Posted - 2013.03.27 17:32:00 - [68] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: There is some useful discussion in this thread, but is the original post current as of this build? Have you edited it Bojo? The uses of some modules are now less useful now with various nerfs, especially to the Turbines. In honesty there was always better HP and Offensive LAV builds out there but this one has the beauty of being self reliant. This is one built around "Amateur" skills (Um yes I was using Level Five Shield Control and Field Mechanics). It was meant to show the general outline for building. I have various other and more Super fittings but this was a good one to learn the basic use of an LAV. It's meant to get you to teach how to be mobile. Also, this was pre-Torque booster nerf, when you could actually outrun swarms with the Torque booster. The fact of the matter is that this is now probably broken and needs to be changed to keep the general idea of mobility and self reliance, while dropping the nerfed and less than useful modules.
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 865	Posted - 2013.04.11 05:54:00 - [69] - Quote UPDATE: I'm working to try and build a good new Attack Methana that can be easily set up for low SP. My conclusion is to drop the shield resistance amplifier. I currently have a Shield Regenerator on it, but those don't help so much. However the alternatives aren't so bright and shiny either. Energized Plating is maybe worth keeping. However, the low SP theme makes me say swap it for 60mm armor, as Armor enhancements is a cheaper skill. I'm going to say that the Crisis is mod is still worth it.
XxWarlordxX97 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1414	Posted - 2013.04.11 18:06:00 - [70] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: UPDATE: I'm working to try and build a good new Attack Methana that can be easily set up for low SP. My conclusion is to drop the shield resistance amplifier. I currently have a Shield Regenerator on it, but those don't help so much. However the alternatives aren't so bright and shiny either. Energized Plating is maybe worth keeping. However, the low SP theme makes me say swap it for 60mm armor, as Armor enhancements is a cheaper skill. I'm going to say that the Crisis is mod is still worth it. Crysis who told you what a did I mean nothing

Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 924	Posted - 2013.04.20 04:32:00 - [71] - Quote Updated! New Schematics, new Version! Let's welcome the Attack Methana 2.0! Updated for this current build and hopefully the next to come! We have done testing on this version and it has proved to be well competent for an LAV and very fun! Enjoy!
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 27	Posted - 2013.04.20 04:50:00 - [72] - Quote Heard they're bringing the infantry repair tool back for the logi LAVs. Hope a convoy of these things start to rule the battlefield.
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 930	Posted - 2013.04.20 16:37:00 - [73] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Heard they're bringing the infantry repair tool back for the logi LAVs. Hope a convoy of these things start to rule the battlefield. Rumor has it....
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. 1195	Posted - 2013.04.20 19:17:00 - [74] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Updated! New Schematics, new Version! Let's welcome the Attack Methana 2.0! Updated for this current build and hopefully the next to come! We have done testing on this version and it has proved to be well competent for an LAV and very fun! Enjoy! I can testify to this new version, i was helping bojo test it, and even ran with it myself with hunter junko a couple of times, and that thing has pretty good survivablilty. and it's a shame i got DC'd that time we were running support for grodd's tank, running convoy was interesting
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 932	Posted - 2013.04.20 19:17:00 - [75] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: If you know of any more useful information and knowledge that you would like to pass on about Light Attack Vehicles primarily used against infantry, feel free to post on this thread. Version 2.0. Thank you to gbghg from L.O.T.I.S, General Grodd from Ahrendee Mercenaries, and a hobo with a minigun. Your help was really useful in the testing! One thousand blessings of grace!
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. 1196	Posted - 2013.04.20 19:28:00 - [76] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: If you know of any more useful information and knowledge that you would like to pass on about Light Attack Vehicles primarily used against infantry, feel free to post on this thread. Version 2.0. Thank you to gbghg from L.O.T.I.S, General Grodd from Ahrendee Mercenaries, and a hobo with a minigun. Your help was really useful in the testing! One thousand blessings of grace! I saw it, I saw it (after i posted that, but the point remains) and if you feel like running counter LAV, Installation, or are just suicidal and want to bug a tank, cycled missiles are your friend, high damage, high rate of fire (which is the general counter to appalling accuracy, aka missile's strange spread), the advanced variant can kill a turret quite quickly, the method to do this i'd recommend is use cover to get close to the turret, then charge straight at it, don't even brake, the collision damage won't kill you, and you'll be safely under it's field of fire. Just get your gunner to hold down R1 and then get out as quickly as you can when it's dead. only danger when doing this is enemy infantry so be careful.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative 182	Posted - 2013.04.20 23:56:00 - [77] - Quote im just hoping reddit holds some truth to it.. I am finding it hard to believe everything in it.
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 939	Posted - 2013.04.22 04:56:00 - [78] - Quote ladwar wrote: im just hoping reddit holds some truth to it.. I am finding it hard to believe everything in it. Ladwar give this fitting a go. I think that the LAV community is small, too small, but this fitting may be a tool of conversion!
Henry FitzEmpress Reaper Galactic 34	Posted - 2013.04.22 14:29:00 - [79] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: ladwar wrote: im just hoping reddit holds some truth to it.. I am finding it hard to believe everything in it. Ladwar give this fitting a go. I think that the LAV community is small, too small, but this fitting may be a tool of conversion! I have a very similar fit but it swaps out the torque module for a Carapace hardener. Advanced module so it does not fit with the low SP goal of this build. I agree with the high modules. Once you've fitted the damage control mod, there are slim pickings for the 2nd slot. I jump between the shield resistance and regenerator.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative 195	Posted - 2013.04.22 16:09:00 - [80] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: ladwar wrote: im just hoping reddit holds some truth to it.. I am finding it hard to believe everything in it. Ladwar give this fitting a go. I think that the LAV community is small, too small, but this fitting may be a tool of conversion! i know, I have been trying but its hard to find it actually worth doing at times. well I have been toying around with numbers and stuff and I say it is possible to fit a Charybdis with extender, a shield booster and remote shield transport(remote shield booster) but you are limited to what turret you can put on. I was left at 266/274 for powergrid after doing this with a ST-1 missile launcher. I did put in this: Local powergrid expansion unit x 2 ST-1 fragmented Azeotropic shield extender light converse shield booster light converse shield transporter supplemental shield amplifier oh ya stats 2168 shield (shield control level 3) armor 623(field mechanics level 4) with that said this cost a lot in terms of sp and the tactic of using it net 0 warpoints.

ladwar Dead Six Initiative 196	Posted - 2013.04.22 16:53:00 - [81] - Quote all right so he I go for an idea fit for a methane my base idea for all LAVs is that 2500raw HP is good for most LAVs more than that your going for tank and heading away from damage which is the difference in having gunner on comms or just going for roadkilling. for the balanced methane lows 60mm plate(whatever you can fit)x1 armor repairer, I used the polarized one carapace armor hardnener( you could replace this with damage mod for more of any attack platform, light ones work best) highs active heat sink(oh shun me now, I know) f45 DMCU- this just for the hardener and replaceable for whatever defense mod you want for me I put on a scattered ion cannon on this now onto defense fully tanked methane, now before I go on there is two idea spinning around, repairs help stay in the fight the other is I can repair it in a safe spot with a repair tool so im going to try and make one for both so beware of this. so first no repairer on is im just going on idea plates x2 hardener DMCU shield resist passive whatever turret fits with this idea in mind I made a LAV with 3447 armor (level 4 field mechanics), im not in favor of this but hey its there if you. with a repairer on 60mm reinforced nanofibre plate polarized armor repairer carapace hardener azeotropic shield extender supplemental shield amplifier( you could replace with a ward shield regenerator but its really your call on this) ST-1 missile launcher now with this you have to have maxed out CPU/PG fitting skills as it comes right on the edge of PG with 3 CPU to play around with.
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 941	Posted - 2013.04.22 21:03:00 - [82] - Quote ladwar wrote: i know, I have been trying but its hard to find it actually worth doing at times. Actually when we were testing this, it was pretty worth while. We just did objective hit and runs for the most part, and even had a few car chases (FUN!). The best luggage to bring with this is an HMG in the passenger seat. Anyways we lost few of these and made orbital worthy points, which is fairly good for an LAV.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. 1203	Posted - 2013.04.22 21:09:00 - [83] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: ladwar wrote: i know, I have been trying but its hard to find it actually worth doing at times. Actually when we were testing this, it was pretty worth while. We just did objective hit and runs for the most part, and even had a few car chases (FUN!). The best luggage to bring with this is an HMG in the passenger seat. Anyways we lost few of these and made orbital worthy points, which is fairly good for an LAV. bojo got around 700 warpoints 1 match, just from assists, SL commision and a few roadkills, i got over 800 wp. pretty good considering we didn't lose an LAV the entire round.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative 199	Posted - 2013.04.22 22:12:00 - [84] - Quote I have been testing with a gunnlogi and its been fun. LAVs are fun but the cost makes it not so much. more needs to happen to vehicles before I actually see LAVs as more then faster MLT tanks without the firepower. just been testing a lot and haven't came back to my Charybdis in a while.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. 1207	Posted - 2013.04.22 23:57:00 - [85] - Quote Something I just realised, if you decide to go with missiles and have a high enough level in circuitry and combat engineering you can switch the nanofibre plates for polycrystalline plates. Can add about 200 extra armour with field mechanics LV5
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 944	Posted - 2013.04.23 04:00:00 - [86] - Quote gbghg wrote: Something I just realised, if you decide to go with missiles and have a high enough level in circuitry and combat engineering you can switch the nanofibre plates for polycrystalline plates. Can add about 200 extra armour with field mechanics LV5 An alternative is to get Armor Upgrades up to level 4 or five....if you want to keep your blasters, like I do! Also, I think that running Missile Launchers on this will force you to use Circuitry. I did number crunching and this variant shouldn't require any levels in Circuitry but for missiles you would need some.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative 202	Posted - 2013.04.23 04:16:00 - [87] - Quote well im only sitting on armor enhancement? level 3, im not an armor guy, im a shield a guy so it was pushing the PG to have nanofibre. well just waiting for the reset to redo the skills some more.
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 944	Posted - 2013.04.23 04:40:00 - [88] - Quote ladwar wrote: well im only sitting on armor enhancement? level 3, im not an armor guy, im a shield a guy so it was pushing the PG to have nanofibre. well just waiting for the reset to redo the skills some more. To be honest, it must be weird driving sagas...just so weird...I hotwired one one time and it was the lamest fitting, I left it in the sticks to rot...but the Methana is not a shield tanker. I have done it but it destroyed my ability to repair it via module and I can't drive Methanas without armor reps or if they're armor tanked enough. So why do you have Chabrydis and Methanas?
ladwar Dead Six Initiative 202	Posted - 2013.04.23 05:02:00 - [89] - Quote normal sagas are worse ever for driving.. my Charybdis handles like a dream. haven't gone back to see if they were fixed... i have the Charybdis for the fun, its just easier to drive from a survivability side as well as swarms are the second problem for LAVs(AV nades #1) forge are only 3rd because they have a hard time hitting me as i zip along the field but this new av makes me wonder so i have been testing out some methana fits just in case they are a tad OP and i need to know the best tactics to armor LAVs.
Ld Collins On The Brink CRONOS. 0	Posted - 2013.04.23 05:29:00 - [90] - Quote I'm currently using a Methana with a XT Cycled Turret, 9% CPU upgrade, 10% MT DMG, 60 MM armor plate, 11% shield resistance and a shield extender. I use this methana to destroy turret installations my shield is currently 1116 and armor is 2563. It costs me about 290,000 isk to run if I happen to run into an enemy lav or dropship I win every time. My shield control is lvl 2 so if I were to make it to lvl 5 I'd have 1283 shield. I can use my Lav comfortably by myself in a match and get 5-9 kills I use a logi with heavy armor and shield extenders with a armor repairer so I can jump from my turret to my driver seat to heal and still drive away to heal whatever damage my Lav may have received. I've had a setup at one point survive an obital strike my lave was on fire but it didnt explode so I healed it and me and my gunner drove off.

Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 954	Posted - 2013.04.23 20:01:00 - [91] - Quote Yes but I like having repair modules on my LAV, because I can't always just stop to make the repairs, or find a supply depot, especially since HAV's destroy them.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative 214	Posted - 2013.04.23 20:08:00 - [92] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Yes but I like having repair modules on my LAV, because I can't always just stop to make the repairs, or find a supply depot, especially since HAV's destroy them. your in the same idea as me, i hate when im shield tanking and i lose some armor but not enough to die from but its the trade off I'll take for higher resistance to the most common av weapons swarms and an av nades.
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 961	Posted - 2013.04.24 20:16:00 - [93] - Quote ladwar wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: Yes but I like having repair modules on my LAV, because I can't always just stop to make the repairs, or find a supply depot, especially since HAV's destroy them. your in the same idea as me, i hate when im shield tanking and i lose some armor but not enough to die from but its the trade off I'll take for higher resistance to the most common av weapons swarms and an av nades. Reasons why I armor tank. Shields regenerate anyways, might as well make everything regenerate. The saga at first makes plenty of sense, it has more natural regen HP, and less need for armor which would "slow" it down. I swarm out on Onikumas and they actually don't blow up immediately because of shields vs. swarms. But in my testing with Onikumas, you are genuinely screwed once damage starts biting into your armor, you're as good as dead.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative 240	Posted - 2013.04.24 20:36:00 - [94] - Quote I had my guristas saga to have a passive shield regen to over 50 per second, its actually want I did for a remote armor repairer.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 1323	Posted - 2013.05.01 22:19:00 - [95] - Quote Okay bumping this back up for the ignorant masses today, was using my cycled missile variant with hunter junko gunning for me, we got an orbital and had some fantastic times killing turrets and turning red berries into jam. This thing can take 2 rail guns hit in succession and still be alive if you get the DCU on.
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 1026	Posted - 2013.05.01 22:33:00 - [96] - Quote gbghg wrote: Okay bumping this back up for the ignorant masses today, was using my cycled missile variant with hunter junko gunning for me, we got an orbital and had some fantastic times killing turrets and turning red berries into jam. This thing can take 2 rail guns hit in succession and still be alive if you get the DCU on. I really hope this is still viable in Uprising.... Thanks for the bump gb. I actually would genuinely like to see more Methana's and Sagas out there. I don't like seeing pistol users because it's the greatest secret, but I feel like the AV community needs less free WP and more work.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 272	Posted - 2013.05.01 22:36:00 - [97] - Quote well that's good, im kindof waiting for the update for someone to actually say the LLAV got its repper back. LAV can tank ok vs installations, not so well vs any HAV.
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 1026	Posted - 2013.05.01 22:38:00 - [98] - Quote ladwar wrote: well that's good, im kindof waiting for the update for someone to actually say the LLAV got its repper back. LAV can tank ok vs installations, not so well vs any HAV. If you check out the Uprising footage from Jenza, the LAVs look way better to handle and sources say that the LLV does in fact have the repper back.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 274	Posted - 2013.05.01 22:42:00 - [99] - Quote I don't believe it till I see it and I don't trust reddit at all. handling was never a problem for me.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 1324	Posted - 2013.05.01 22:43:00 - [100] - Quote ladwar wrote: I don't believe it till I see it and I don't trust reddit at all. handling was never a problem for me. Same, I can drive it just fine, the occasional terrain induced spin just adds variety.

ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 274	Posted - 2013.05.01 22:46:00 - [101] - Quote its takes a little practice to drive backwards after taking a forge gun round but once you know how to handle it and actually tried it is pretty simple but the controls are not normal compared to all other games.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 1324	Posted - 2013.05.01 23:04:00 - [102] - Quote ladwar wrote: its takes a little practice to drive backwards after taking a forge gun round but once you know how to handle it and actually tried it is pretty simple but the controls are not normal compared to all other games. It's also pretty good to learn what you can and can't drive on, for example knowing that I could use a staircase as a ramp to get to safety saved my methana from enemy fire.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 275	Posted - 2013.05.01 23:43:00 - [103] - Quote I am disappointed that they made a new type of LAV and instead of making a more tanked version or a attack platform the just toke the MTL and beefed up its speed and made it cost as much as the LLV and call it the scout LAV... this is in no way helpful.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1320	Posted - 2013.05.02 00:06:00 - [104] - Quote The new LAV handling doesn't look promising- looks too tight. I was used to the super-sensitive-super-maneuverable ones we have now. Driving backwards after you spin around can be fun sometimes.
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 1035	Posted - 2013.05.02 01:24:00 - [105] - Quote ladwar wrote: I am disappointed that they made a new type of LAV and instead of making a more tanked version or a attack platform the just toke the MTL and beefed up its speed and made it cost as much as the LLV and call it the scout LAV... this is in no way helpful. I thought it was going to have innate scan bonuses as well, like a reduced profile and a passive scanner
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 1328	Posted - 2013.05.02 01:29:00 - [106] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: ladwar wrote: I am disappointed that they made a new type of LAV and instead of making a more tanked version or a attack platform the just toke the MTL and beefed up its speed and made it cost as much as the LLV and call it the scout LAV... this is in no way helpful. I thought it was going to have innate scan bonuses as well, like a reduced profile and a passive scanner Yeah that would have made more sense and made it more attractive as well.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 278	Posted - 2013.05.02 10:19:00 - [107] - Quote gbghg wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: ladwar wrote: I am disappointed that they made a new type of LAV and instead of making a more tanked version or a attack platform the just toke the MTL and beefed up its speed and made it cost as much as the LLV and call it the scout LAV... this is in no way helpful. I thought it was going to have innate scan bonuses as well, like a reduced profile and a passive scanner Yeah that would have made more sense and made it more attractive as well. yea but LAVs are kindof big so no matter what you should be able to pick it off the overhead map. but if it had a nice scanner on it sure but I don't think it has any of that.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 1339	Posted - 2013.05.02 22:38:00 - [108] - Quote Just confirming here that armour upgrades level 4 let's you put polycrystalline plates on the blaster variant.
jenza aranda BetaMax. CRONOS. 1291	Posted - 2013.05.03 21:54:00 - [109] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: ladwar wrote: well that's good, im kindof waiting for the update for someone to actually say the LLAV got its repper back. LAV can tank ok vs installations, not so well vs any HAV. If you check out the Uprising footage from Jenza, the LAVs look way better to handle and sources say that the LLV does in fact have the repper back. i tired making a bare bones LLAV but there was no built in repper.
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 1060	Posted - 2013.05.03 23:08:00 - [110] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: ladwar wrote: well that's good, im kindof waiting for the update for someone to actually say the LLAV got its repper back. LAV can tank ok vs installations, not so well vs any HAV. If you check out the Uprising footage from Jenza, the LAVs look way better to handle and sources say that the LLV does in fact have the repper back. i tired making a bare bones LLAV but there was no built in repper. Jenza I believe it's passive. It repairs the infantry who get inside of it or near it.

Henry FitzEmpress Reaper Galactic D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 34	Posted - 2013.05.04 12:41:00 - [111] - Quote Will everybody be going into LAVs after the respec? Seems like with the split of core skills, it's going to be a little more painful. I'm thinking of 80% dropsuit and 20% LAV for my skill point reallocation. Won't really know for sure until I can see the new skills and SP costs for each.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 1369	Posted - 2013.05.04 18:21:00 - [112] - Quote I am, well I'm getting the methana at least, not sure if I'm going to take it any further than that. I'm going to outs load of sp into dropships and most of the rest into vehicle support and turret skills. I'm probably going to put a million or so sp into infantry corp skills and get one of the base medium suits just to use to earn ISK. It's going to be painful for a while but my infantry fits will get stronger once I've finished maxing vehicles.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 288	Posted - 2013.05.04 21:51:00 - [113] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: jenza aranda wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: ladwar wrote: well that's good, im kindof waiting for the update for someone to actually say the LLAV got its repper back. LAV can tank ok vs installations, not so well vs any HAV. If you check out the Uprising footage from Jenza, the LAVs look way better to handle and sources say that the LLV does in fact have the repper back. i tired making a bare bones LLAV but there was no built in repper. Jenza I believe it's passive. It repairs the infantry who get inside of it or near it. im pretty sure the last on was active so if it back it should be active.
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 1081	Posted - 2013.05.04 23:52:00 - [114] - Quote ladwar wrote: im pretty sure the last on was active so if it back it should be active. Who the hell knows
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 291	Posted - 2013.05.05 00:42:00 - [115] - Quote CCP... but they'll never tell.
jenza aranda BetaMax. CRONOS. 1303	Posted - 2013.05.05 12:33:00 - [116] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: ladwar wrote: im pretty sure the last on was active so if it back it should be active. Who the hell knows i can, several builds ago it did have a built in infantry actve repper.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 332	Posted - 2013.05.06 22:07:00 - [117] - Quote tested, no infantry repper in LLAVs, so reddit lied
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 1105	Posted - 2013.05.07 03:34:00 - [118] - Quote ladwar wrote: tested, no infantry repper in LLAVs, so reddit lied Neither active nor some unseen passive? Damn!
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 337	Posted - 2013.05.07 04:17:00 - [119] - Quote LLAV can still be tanked, well once they fix the pg skill. scout LAV is a joke.
Fox Gaden DUST University Ivy League 296	Posted - 2013.05.07 16:58:00 - [120] - Quote We will have to wait for Speeders for a true Scout vehicle.

ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 356	Posted - 2013.05.08 04:03:00 - [121] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: ladwar wrote: tested, no infantry repper in LLAVs, so reddit lied Neither active nor some unseen passive? Damn! I think I made a victory. they admitted that is not there and I quote CCP Blam! wrote: I can understand your frustration! The fix to re-enable remote repairs on logistics LAVs didn't make it into our deployment. However, we are working on deploying a set of server side fixes shortly which will include this fix. a fix for it. or atleast got on the record that they will which is a step toward it. said quote from above number 7 post
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 1491	Posted - 2013.05.09 11:38:00 - [122] - Quote Logi LAV drivers, I bring good news https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=74876&find=unread
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 356	Posted - 2013.05.09 23:03:00 - [123] - Quote works on boths.. driving is weird thou when you have that module active, it lets you pan without force facing forward when driving so it is nice when stopped but has a bit of lock on timer. haven't got to test the effective ness but has a long active time with I think 30 cooldown.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 410	Posted - 2013.05.15 23:02:00 - [124] - Quote hey bojo have you seen any new ways to tank up a methana now for uprising with the decreased PG?
The Murder Taxi Algintal Core Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.06.26 22:15:00 - [125] - Quote I will put this information to good use on my way to universal domination. People are just speed bumps on my way to success pardon my pun.
CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 232	Posted - 2013.06.28 04:55:00 - [126] - Quote ladwar wrote: hey bojo have you seen any new ways to tank up a methana now for uprising with the decreased PG? psh. it's all about the Chary, now. Swarms do too much damage to the Limbus for it to compete.
Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 1398	Posted - 2013.08.07 16:56:00 - [127] - Quote ladwar wrote: hey bojo have you seen any new ways to tank up a methana now for uprising with the decreased PG? I need people to help me test out this fitting again, I no longer have the ability + Options to.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 2966	Posted - 2013.08.07 21:17:00 - [128] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: ladwar wrote: hey bojo have you seen any new ways to tank up a methana now for uprising with the decreased PG? I need people to help me test out this fitting again, I no longer have the ability + Options to. I tried remaking it at the start of uprising, the PG nerf means that the original layout is impossible. And I lack the ISK to mess around with LAV's.
Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 1405	Posted - 2013.08.08 05:42:00 - [129] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Think I found a god-set up 2 Azeoptric Ward Shield Extenders, 60 mm Nanofibre Plates, and CPU/PG Upgrades I took so much damage with it my head spun. I got hit by swarms, a tank, and a forge all in one sitting and still managed to go off and repair my Methana that had >1/3 armor left. I think I'll make a different methana post on it and I will need to do some more research into it, but it looks promising. PS: I lost the methana when it got it's wheels stuck in the air balancing on a hill Please tell me I can still remake the 'Jaguar' Methana! That thing was f'ing tough! I took 3 shots: forge, forge, railgun and only started burning a little. It was the damn toughest LAV short of Logistics. So no crappy turrets! Please tell me they did not nerf this fitting out of existence.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1078	Posted - 2013.08.08 07:01:00 - [130] - Quote CharCharOdell wrote: ladwar wrote: hey bojo have you seen any new ways to tank up a methana now for uprising with the decreased PG? psh. it's all about the Chary, now. Swarms do too much damage to the Limbus for it to compete. lol.. i called it but i just never wanted to that bad as it is.

gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 3015	Posted - 2013.08.08 14:04:00 - [131] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: Think I found a god-set up 2 Azeoptric Ward Shield Extenders, 60 mm Nanofibre Plates, and CPU/PG Upgrades I took so much damage with it my head spun. I got hit by swarms, a tank, and a forge all in one sitting and still managed to go off and repair my Methana that had >1/3 armor left. I think I'll make a different methana post on it and I will need to do some more research into it, but it looks promising. PS: I lost the methana when it got it's wheels stuck in the air balancing on a hill Please tell me I can still remake the 'Jaguar' Methana! That thing was f'ing tough! I took 3 shots: forge, forge, railgun and only started burning a little. It was the damn toughest LAV short of Logistics. So no crappy turrets! Please tell me they did not nerf this fitting out of existence. I'll try it out, but tbh I prefer to drive sagas now.
Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 1409	Posted - 2013.08.08 18:16:00 - [132] - Quote gbghg wrote: I'll try it out, but tbh I prefer to drive sagas now.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 3029	Posted - 2013.08.08 19:34:00 - [133] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: gbghg wrote: I'll try it out, but tbh I prefer to drive sagas now. It's the built in resistance to swarms, it makes a huge difference and the saga 2 has a built on hardener and turret. Add on the fact that I got them when they were 15k they only cost me about 100k a piece.
Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 1411	Posted - 2013.08.08 19:54:00 - [134] - Quote gbghg wrote: It's the built in resistance to swarms, it makes a huge difference and the saga 2 has a built on hardener and turret. Add on the fact that I got them when they were 15k they only cost me about 100k a piece. tisk tisk gb, you know very well that a Saga is a fluzy skank! How dare you cheat on Lady Meth for some Swarm Resistance! We all know that Methanas can tank more anyways!
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 3029	Posted - 2013.08.08 21:01:00 - [135] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: gbghg wrote: It's the built in resistance to swarms, it makes a huge difference and the saga 2 has a built on hardener and turret. Add on the fact that I got them when they were 15k they only cost me about 100k a piece. tisk tisk gb, you know very well that a Saga is a fluzy skank! How dare you cheat on Lady Meth for some Swarm Resistance! We all know that Methanas can tank more anyways! I'm sorry, but lady meth isn't what she used to be, sleazy saga is cheap and can handle messy situations better right now. And awesome abron can be great fun if fragile.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 3029	Posted - 2013.08.08 22:32:00 - [136] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: Think I found a god-set up 2 Azeoptric Ward Shield Extenders, 60 mm Nanofibre Plates, and CPU/PG Upgrades I took so much damage with it my head spun. I got hit by swarms, a tank, and a forge all in one sitting and still managed to go off and repair my Methana that had >1/3 armor left. I think I'll make a different methana post on it and I will need to do some more research into it, but it looks promising. PS: I lost the methana when it got it's wheels stuck in the air balancing on a hill Please tell me I can still remake the 'Jaguar' Methana! That thing was f'ing tough! I took 3 shots: forge, forge, railgun and only started burning a little. It was the damn toughest LAV short of Logistics. So no crappy turrets! Please tell me they did not nerf this fitting out of existence. It can be done, provided you run with a local pg extender and a CPU extender, and fit a std missile turret, otherwise you run into PG issues, and if you fit a second extender you run into PG issues. And even now it's tight on both.
Rei Meix Bojo's School of the Trades 12	Posted - 2013.08.09 03:28:00 - [137] - Quote gbghg wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: [quote=Bojo The Mighty]Think I found a god-set up 2 Azeoptric Ward Shield Extenders, 60 mm Nanofibre Plates, and CPU/PG Upgrades It can be done, provided you run with a local pg extender and a CPU extender, and fit a std missile turret, otherwise you run into PG issues, and if you fit a second extender you run into PG issues. And even now it's tight on both. Edit: ran a match in this and it has a simply insane tanking ability, didn't lose it once despite taking some stupid DPS, however I have 1 major gripe with it. Lack of reps, it takes too long to get back to full health, armour can be dealt with quickly with either a rep tool or parking next to a supply depot, the shields however take way too long to regenerate. If I wanted to stay in the fight I had to roll with about 300-500 shields. Swap one Azeo Extender with a booster than. It should fit(? since they have close PG reqs) and it'll provide somewhat similar albeit less EHP, while giving you lower downtime. Though you'll still have to find that supply depot for armor reps.
Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 1446	Posted - 2013.08.12 15:16:00 - [138] - Quote Rei Meix wrote: gbghg wrote: Edit: ran a match in this and it has a simply insane tanking ability, didn't lose it once despite taking some stupid DPS, however I have 1 major gripe with it. Lack of reps, it takes too long to get back to full health, armour can be dealt with quickly with either a rep tool or parking next to a supply depot, the shields however take way too long to regenerate. If I wanted to stay in the fight I had to roll with about 300-500 shields. Swap one Azeo Extender with a booster than. It should fit(? since they have close PG reqs) and it'll provide somewhat similar albeit less EHP, while giving you lower downtime. Though you'll still have to find that supply depot for armor reps. Yes insane tanking ability, but god forbid regeneration. That's why the Attack Methana has a regenerator. But have you tried the easy way out? Recalling then redeploying?
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 3091	Posted - 2013.08.12 18:12:00 - [139] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Rei Meix wrote: gbghg wrote: Edit: ran a match in this and it has a simply insane tanking ability, didn't lose it once despite taking some stupid DPS, however I have 1 major gripe with it. Lack of reps, it takes too long to get back to full health, armour can be dealt with quickly with either a rep tool or parking next to a supply depot, the shields however take way too long to regenerate. If I wanted to stay in the fight I had to roll with about 300-500 shields. Swap one Azeo Extender with a booster than. It should fit(? since they have close PG reqs) and it'll provide somewhat similar albeit less EHP, while giving you lower downtime. Though you'll still have to find that supply depot for armor reps. Yes insane tanking ability, but god forbid regeneration. That's why the Attack Methana has a regenerator. But have you tried the easy way out? Recalling then redeploying? No I haven't, I just parked next to a supply depot till the armour regenerated and went around road killing Merc's with 30% shields.
Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 1449	Posted - 2013.08.12 20:40:00 - [140] - Quote Alright well give me a ring next time you try it. I'm better at missiles these days, I've been doing several runs with Sir Snugglz and we mop it up sometimes. So give me a ring and lets try out the real beastly LAVs.



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