Please, less whine, more thinking. Seriously, what do you think is gonna happen when we get our fighters? and if you can't figure it out then STFU

This is what's really the problem.

If you have a full squad of people using standard swarms,you aren't going to be able to take out a tank with good shield reps.

So taking that into account,1/4 of your whole team is basically sitting ducks with swarm launchers,while the enemy just sweeps in on foot to take those guys out.

I think that the vehicle combat really doesn't work either with smaller team sizes.It takes away too much of a percentage of your team to actually kill tanks and dropships.

Also, people who use Tanks like a Sniper Rifle are mis-using them, imo.

Tanks should be rolling across the battlefield, suppressing troops. Not sitting on the redline sniping.

just my personal opinion though.

Who are you?

There is no mis-use. There is only win or win not.

So you want 3ppl with milita swarms which are the weakest by the way to be able to take down a Sagris which is a 2mil tank fully fitted and at least 4.5mil SP invested into it

Have i got that right? if so then no you are the worst kind of player why dont you ask for assault rifle to be able to kill a tank because its basically the same thing

You want players with no skills invested at all to take out the top tank in the game, this is the road we are going down atm and tanks are already weak as it is and you want it easier because soloing a tank on your own isnt enough you want to do it with milita stuff

If you have a whole squad with swarms,yeah,it should go down.You have 16 rockets hitting a target,it should get destroyed,end of story.

The obvious penalty is that you have a whole squad with swarms that are pretty much sitting ducks.

This Englishsnake.

that statement is absolute horse ****
using swarms makes u a sittin duck? gtfo with that bs comment

as an armor tanker i see swarms with their BS trackin make 180s around cover and still hit me
u can lock onto targets that are also behind cover u dont need to expose urself much
if u said FG i would of agreed a bit but Swarms? lolno

Wow,I guess you just figure that there isn't anyone else on your team except for you.

Ever think about OTHER INFANTRY going to kill those guys? Or what about snipers on your team?Typically,guys with swarms are pretty defenseless against,well,pretty much everything.Ever try hitting a dropship with a swarm launcher when it's right above your head? Only if you are a scout fit with a swarm and maybe a SMG do you really stand a chance,but even then,probably not.

Get real if you think that those guys aren't at a major disadvantage.

Swarms what lvl swarms i would agree if it was proto or maybe even advanced but basic and milita lolno but just because its 16 missiles doesnt mean it will cause enough DPS to kill the tank

Sitting ducks lol worthy you hide behind a hill lock on through the hill pop out fire missiles and then i watch said missiles fly around my cover to hit me - yes you are so skilled and sitting ducks behind that hill of yours which i will never be able to hit even with the 'OP' missiles lol because 'OP' splash damage doesnt go over the hill or through the hill or even around the hill to hit you behind your cover

I love it when an infantry is using a swarm launcher since its a one second button press on the R1 button and its another Militia AR kill.
SMG???
GTFO at 90 M its useless as defense versus an AR user.
Swarms what lvl swarms i would agree if it was proto or maybe even advanced but basic and milita lolno but just because its 16 missiles doesnt mean it will cause enough DPS to kill the tank

Sitting ducks lol worthy you hide behind a hill lock on through the hill pop out fire missiles and then i watch said missiles fly around my cover to hit me - yes you are so skilled and sitting ducks behind that hill of yours which i will never be able to hit even with the 'OP' missiles lol because 'OP' splash damage doesnt go over the hill or through the hill or even around the hill to hit you behind your cover

I've never seen it, it's just you hugging the red line, Until you know it's safe to come out of hiding.

Tanks aren't Op, the turrets are.

Especially the large missile turrets.

If the tourney proved anything, it's that CCP has done a damn fine job of balancing vehicles vs. infantry. Both finalists are insisting that combined forces are a must when up against a competent opponent. In a game as complex as DUST that's not an easy thing to design and i for one think CCP deserve some credit.

Anyone who is claiming AV is underpowered and in the same breath insists on using militia AV gear has absolutely no credibility. A minimal investment in skillpoints gets you the Scattermind swarm launcher(Darkside, if you using AUR - basically a proto level weapon availiable at lvl 3), and a slightly bigger investment in heavy suit, weapons and forge guns gets you a forge gun.

What are we really talking here in terms of time invested? Maybe one, two, or three(if you're really struggling) days invested to be able to back off or destroy ANY piece of armor that can be fielded in the game.

As soon as there is armor or dropships on the field(I'm talking to YOU, bluberry!) you should be switching out to AV and punishing the **** out of the arrogant bastard who called it in.

TBH, 2 swarms and one forge can make a bad day for just about anything on the field. Don't assume the other bluberries are gonna do it for you - Y'all just need to get off your lazy kdr-whoring asses, grow a pair, and get the job done.

P.S: And put down some ^%$$^$%# uplinks while you're at it!

Well said. Seems like the majority of players are just lazy people who want to field into one role. But it doesn't work like that here or in real life.

Full on tanker

No maps are infantry or infantry only spaces

I dont get out because im driver also i cannot lock my HAV from blue dots who will steal it and take for a joyride