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4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.11.11 00:38:00 -
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All the people who say you should use teamwork, What i say to you is STFU. Tanks snipe across the map, This isn't like a forge when you snipe and may take 2,3,4,5 shots to kill a tango across the map, it's one shot with a tank.
But you should use team work? Teamwork ok so, how do you kill a tank when the maps are designed to corridor me down ever path i take, and my team mates take?
Then get up high? how can i get up high, when my forge only works so far, and the tanks range is infinite?
At the end of the day 16 vs 16 can't have tanks that are nearly immortal on the field. Now i'm not saying make tanks easy to kill on your own, but at least give me a try maybe 4 shots with a forge?
CCP at least maybe take tanks and drop ships out of the game for maybe a week, let me enjoy the game?
The problem with getting killed by a tank in DUST 514, isn't that i've been killed by someone, it's that the person i've got killed by hasn't any skill. |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2012.11.11 00:46:00 -
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Their resistance has beeing nerfed at the end of the last build. And they are supposed to be feared tools off destruction. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.11.11 00:48:00 -
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Get good Tanks arent OP Missiles are Tanks can be taken out easy stop QQing tanks been nerfed enough already
and why shouldnt a LARGE rail turret have good range (isnt infinite btw)? Blasters have short range |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.11.11 00:48:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Their resistance has beeing nerfed at the end of the last build. And they are supposed to be feared tools off destruction.
On a 16vs 16 map?
you must be joking right? do you know what tank were first used for? |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.11.11 00:50:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Get good Tanks arent OP Missiles are Tanks can be taken out easy stop QQing tanks been nerfed enough already
and why shouldnt a LARGE rail turret have good range (isnt infinite btw)? Blasters have short range
Tank driver here what a joke, You already get an extra life.
EDIT: Should tanks and drop ships be used in ambush? |
ugg reset
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.11.11 00:53:00 -
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Why should a tank be scarred of infantry? Thats like a full grown moose being scarred of a wolf. Sure the wolf has teeth, but alone he's overwhelmed.
F teamwork? buddy you're definitely playing the wrong game. Just wait till the real OB's start coming in.
Quote:EDIT: Should tanks and drop ships be used in ambush?
hell ya. |
Tiel Syysch
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.11.11 00:53:00 -
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CCP should take out everything you have SP in so I can enjoy the game.
You're mad at the turrets, not the vehicles. If you can't kill the vehicles, well, use teamwork? |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.11.11 00:54:00 -
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ugg reset wrote:Why should a tank be scarred of infantry? Thats like a full grown moose being scarred of a wolf. Sure the wolf has teeth, but alone he's overwhelmed.
F teamwork? buddy you're definitely playing the wrong game. Just wait till the real OB's start coming in.
Teamwork, yea iv'e played team work... but how many AV players do you need to take out a tank? |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.11.11 00:56:00 -
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4447 wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:Get good Tanks arent OP Missiles are Tanks can be taken out easy stop QQing tanks been nerfed enough already
and why shouldnt a LARGE rail turret have good range (isnt infinite btw)? Blasters have short range Tank driver here what a joke, You already get an extra life.
newsflash im just as good on the ground as i am in a tank also i use rails, blasters AND an armor tank aka the worst of the worst stuff for a tanker atm since missiles are good with everything
if u cant take out my armor tank then ur team isnt very good im not like most that run for the OP stuff next time u say tanks are OP (and this goes to CCP as well) take a look at TWO key things
1. WHAT type of tank killed u 2. Turret that was used
i can already answer those for u
1. Shield 2. Missiles
Most times ppl come on forums and QQ about tanks or dropships i already know they got missile spammed to death and raged.
Blasters have a short range and u have to actually aim Rails have poor trackin and still gotta aim Both can overheat Whereas missiles have none of these requirements and drawbacks Shield tanks have Shield hardeners in place, Armor doesnt have theirs
So as u can see as a tanker im deliberately put myself at a disadvantage most times |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.11.11 00:57:00 -
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Tiel Syysch wrote:CCP should take out everything you have SP in so I can enjoy the game.
You're mad at the turrets, not the vehicles. If you can't kill the vehicles, well, use teamwork?
yea, you are right thinking about it the turrets need to be nerved. |
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ugg reset
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.11.11 00:59:00 -
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4447 wrote:ugg reset wrote:Why should a tank be scarred of infantry? Thats like a full grown moose being scarred of a wolf. Sure the wolf has teeth, but alone he's overwhelmed.
F teamwork? buddy you're definitely playing the wrong game. Just wait till the real OB's start coming in.
Teamwork, yea iv'e played team work... but how many AV players do you need to take out a tank?
Hard to say since I haven't crunched the numbers. It takes three men to man a tank; I'd start from there
Also, have you ever considered fighting a tank with a tank?
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Eternal Technique
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.11.11 00:59:00 -
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You obviously just got killed by a tank. I suggest you take a minute, sit back and calm down before you clutter the forums with your QQing.
Tanks are easy to take out. If you have problems doing this, then I have bad news for you: you are probably bad. Check the Items in the market you should find some stuff there that can help you get better. I would suggest swarm launchers. Pro tip: hold down the trigger to fire them. That way it locks on. Try this and let me know how it went. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2282
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Posted - 2012.11.11 00:59:00 -
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4447 wrote:ugg reset wrote:Why should a tank be scarred of infantry? Thats like a full grown moose being scarred of a wolf. Sure the wolf has teeth, but alone he's overwhelmed.
F teamwork? buddy you're definitely playing the wrong game. Just wait till the real OB's start coming in.
Teamwork, yea iv'e played team work... but how many AV players do you need to take out a tank?
1 - 2 really good FGers can deal with a shield tank, more the merrier
Armor? i do believe u get FREE swarms with bs super AI trackin against ground vehicles that do 1200 base dmg + bonus dmg to armor that EVERYONE on ur team can switch to for FREE and spam at me.....problem is...they DONT and they dont care about teamwork so there is ur problem.
another way to deal with a tank? have a good tanker of ur own and he can drop it for u, which is the main reason i skilled into tanks to have tank fights which recently ive started back gettin |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.11.11 01:00:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:4447 wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:Get good Tanks arent OP Missiles are Tanks can be taken out easy stop QQing tanks been nerfed enough already
and why shouldnt a LARGE rail turret have good range (isnt infinite btw)? Blasters have short range Tank driver here what a joke, You already get an extra life. newsflash im just as good on the ground as i am in a tank also i use rails, blasters AND an armor tank aka the worst of the worst stuff for a tanker atm since missiles are good with everything if u cant take out my armor tank then ur team isnt very good im not like most that run for the OP stuff next time u say tanks are OP (and this goes to CCP as well) take a look at TWO key things 1. WHAT type of tank killed u 2. Turret that was used i can already answer those for u 1. Shield 2. Missiles Most times ppl come on forums and QQ about tanks or dropships i already know they got missile spammed to death and raged. Blasters have a short range and u have to actually aim Rails have poor trackin and still gotta aim Both can overheat Whereas missiles have none of these requirements and drawbacks Shield tanks have Shield hardeners in place, Armor doesnt have theirs So as u can see as a tanker im deliberately put myself at a disadvantage most times
spot on, I retracted my post and blame them ******* missiles. |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.11.11 01:02:00 -
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Eternal Technique wrote:You obviously just got killed by a tank. I suggest you take a minute, sit back and calm down before you clutter the forums with your QQing.
Tanks are easy to take out. If you have problems doing this, then I have bad news for you: you are probably bad. Check the Items in the market you should find some stuff there that can help you get better. I would suggest swarm launchers. Pro tip: hold down the trigger to fire them. That way it locks on. Try this and let me know how it went.
Bad, what a joke. |
immortal ironhide
SyNergy Gaming
80
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Posted - 2012.11.11 01:03:00 -
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maybe get good with a forge? i have NO trouble dropping tanks unless they are camped on a hill or in their spawn.
let me give you a few stats: 1. Sica usually takes 2-3 shots 2. Gunloggi usually takes 4 shots 3. Sagaris is 5-6 (only taken out 1 so might be more for a better fit) 4. Armor tanks of the same level take typically 1-2 more shots than the shield variant
obviously those shot amounts are only if it doesnt retreat and rep up |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.11.11 01:05:00 -
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Forge needs to be a secondary weapon, to keep the match flowing. |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.11.11 01:06:00 -
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immortal ironhide wrote:maybe get good with a forge? i have NO trouble dropping tanks unless they are camped on a hill or in their spawn.
Thats where tanks, always are. |
Ops Fox
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.11.11 01:08:00 -
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I cant agree with this tanks donGÇÖt need another nerf and the missile are our only ranged AI weapon the blaster is to UP to deal with short range AI and the rail is useless beyond all doubt, if you take away the only tool let to us why should anyone even use tanks when their so inefficient.
Neither missile nor tanks need a nerf, missiles are fine and tanks are suffering from their last nerf, what they need is a change in mechanics. They should require team work to use not be one mans tool to dominate if they separate the main gun and the driver and make finite ammo tanks would require a more team effort to use just like they require a team effort to take out. |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.11.11 01:09:00 -
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I don't mean tanks are OP like in the post, what i meant was missiles are OP. |
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immortal ironhide
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.11.11 01:10:00 -
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4447 wrote:immortal ironhide wrote:maybe get good with a forge? i have NO trouble dropping tanks unless they are camped on a hill or in their spawn.
Thats where tanks, always are.
spawn ones are only ones i havent taken out. if a tank camps on a hill i will destroy it just takes a little longer, and usually results in a few hundred thousand isk loss for me by the time i take it out |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.11.11 01:11:00 -
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Ops Fox wrote:I cant agree with this tanks donGÇÖt need another nerf and the missile are our only ranged AI weapon the blaster is to UP to deal with short range AI and the rail is useless beyond all doubt, if you take away the only tool let to us why should anyone even use tanks when their so inefficient.
Neither missile nor tanks need a nerf, missiles are fine and tanks are suffering from their last nerf, what they need is a change in mechanics. They should require team work to use not be one mans tool to dominate if they separate the main gun and the driver and make finite ammo tanks would require a more team effort to use just like they require a team effort to take out.
you got to be joking right? Missiles don't need a NERF they ******* do. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2282
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Posted - 2012.11.11 01:11:00 -
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4447 wrote:immortal ironhide wrote:maybe get good with a forge? i have NO trouble dropping tanks unless they are camped on a hill or in their spawn.
Thats where tanks, always are.
lol not me good tankers support their infantry on objectives if u see a hill/spawn tanker spammin missiles and his team still losing clearly not a good tanker and clearly doesnt care about winning
I always move my tank in positions to assist the capture and defense of objs |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.11.11 01:13:00 -
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Ops Fox wrote:I cant agree with this tanks donGÇÖt need another nerf and the missile are our only ranged AI weapon the blaster is to UP to deal with short range AI and the rail is useless beyond all doubt, if you take away the only tool let to us why should anyone even use tanks when their so inefficient.
Neither missile nor tanks need a nerf, missiles are fine and tanks are suffering from their last nerf, what they need is a change in mechanics. They should require team work to use not be one mans tool to dominate if they separate the main gun and the driver and make finite ammo tanks would require a more team effort to use just like they require a team effort to take out.
this dude said missiles dont need a nerf........... #imdone |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.11.11 01:14:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:4447 wrote:immortal ironhide wrote:maybe get good with a forge? i have NO trouble dropping tanks unless they are camped on a hill or in their spawn.
Thats where tanks, always are. lol not me good tankers support their infantry on objectives if u see a hill/spawn tanker spammin missiles and his team still losing clearly not a good tanker and clearly doesnt care about winning I always move my tank in positions to assist the capture and defense of objs
I just want to know when CCP will nerf the missiles, so i can start playing again. |
Ops Fox
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.11.11 01:14:00 -
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4447 wrote:Forge needs to be a secondary weapon, to keep the match flowing.
forges are already better that turret rails in everyway they dont need to be side arms as well they can pop infantry just as well as tanks as is. tanks can be taken out by one smart heavy (O god howdidthattaste kills my tanks) or 2 heavys not to metnion i managed to take out 50% of a gunlogis shield with a swarm and some AV nades two or three guys we a swarm can take them on if they work together its just no one actually works together using them at the same time as someone else isnt working together, flanking him together is or finding out where he hinds and ambushing him |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
742
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Posted - 2012.11.11 01:16:00 -
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A+ Thread, would read again. |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.11.11 01:20:00 -
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Ops Fox wrote:4447 wrote:Forge needs to be a secondary weapon, to keep the match flowing. forges are already better that turret rails in everyway they dont need to be side arms as well they can pop infantry just as well as tanks as is. tanks can be taken out by one smart heavy (O god howdidthattaste kills my tanks) or 2 heavys not to metnion i managed to take out 50% of a gunlogis shield with a swarm and some AV nades two or three guys we a swarm can take them on if they work together its just no one actually works together using them at the same time as someone else isnt working together, flanking him together is or finding out where he hinds and ambushing him
So tell me this chap, If i use a tank with missiles, Playing on a random match with all blueberries who's going to win? |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
742
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Posted - 2012.11.11 01:24:00 -
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4447 wrote:Ops Fox wrote:4447 wrote:Forge needs to be a secondary weapon, to keep the match flowing. forges are already better that turret rails in everyway they dont need to be side arms as well they can pop infantry just as well as tanks as is. tanks can be taken out by one smart heavy (O god howdidthattaste kills my tanks) or 2 heavys not to metnion i managed to take out 50% of a gunlogis shield with a swarm and some AV nades two or three guys we a swarm can take them on if they work together its just no one actually works together using them at the same time as someone else isnt working together, flanking him together is or finding out where he hinds and ambushing him So tell me this chap, If i use a tank with missiles, Playing on a random match with all blueberries who's going to win?
Depends, are you going to be one of those guys that sits at the back of the map sniping with missiles, are you going to move solo and be a hero or are you going to work with Infantry players, providing support?
If you're the guy that does the first two options, chances are you're going to lose. I join matches with lots of random people (not always bad randoms) and I'll stick with as many blueberries as I can so I can provide support, usually means we win. Some matches I've played a hero and died because I've had no infantry helping me take out AV and when I've sniped people using my turrets, well.. you're not really that helpful, even in ambush. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
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Posted - 2012.11.11 01:37:00 -
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Tanks, missiles, dropships, Idc...they are one in the same.... I support the OP. This game has become more about vehicles and less shooter.
I won't say remove tanks but infantry needs a reliable counter to them. Tanks have shield extenders, shield boosters, shield resistance.....I mean, jeez, wtf do they need all of those for? Not to mention, their turrets have 20% damage modules that you can buy plus whatever level you skilled them up to. Infantry's AV grenades don't have damage skills..neither do the swarms.
That's why we need infantry only maps or objectives on the maps inaccessible to vehicles or something.
And anyone that says vehicles needs to be in ambush is a joke. |
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