And anyone that says vehicles needs to be in ambush is a joke.

Tanks, missiles, dropships, Idc...they are one in the same.... I support the OP. This game has become more about vehicles and less shooter.

I won't say remove tanks but infantry needs a reliable counter to them. Tanks have shield extenders, shield boosters, shield resistance.....I mean, jeez, wtf do they need all of those for? Not to mention, their turrets have 20% damage modules that you can buy plus whatever level you skilled them up to. Infantry's AV grenades don't have damage skills..neither do the swarms.

That's why we need infantry only maps or objectives on the maps inaccessible to vehicles or something.

And anyone that says vehicles needs to be in ambush is a joke.

All the people who say you should use teamwork, What i say to you is STFU.
Tanks snipe across the map, This isn't like a forge when you snipe and may take 2,3,4,5 shots to kill a tango across the map, it's one shot with a tank.

But you should use team work? Teamwork ok so, how do you kill a tank when the maps are designed to corridor me down ever path i take, and my team mates take?

Then get up high? how can i get up high, when my forge only works so far, and the tanks range is infinite?

At the end of the day 16 vs 16 can't have tanks that are nearly immortal on the field. Now i'm not saying make tanks easy to kill on your own, but at least give me a try maybe 4 shots with a forge?

CCP at least maybe take tanks and drop ships out of the game for maybe a week, let me enjoy the game?

The problem with getting killed by a tank in DUST 514, isn't that i've been killed by someone, it's that the person i've got killed by hasn't any skill.

Forge needs to be a secondary weapon, to keep the match flowing.

Tanks, missiles, dropships, Idc...they are one in the same.... I support the OP. This game has become more about vehicles and less shooter.

I won't say remove tanks but infantry needs a reliable counter to them. Tanks have shield extenders, shield boosters, shield resistance.....I mean, jeez, wtf do they need all of those for? Not to mention, their turrets have 20% damage modules that you can buy plus whatever level you skilled them up to. Infantry's AV grenades don't have damage skills..neither do the swarms.

That's why we need infantry only maps or objectives on the maps inaccessible to vehicles or something.

And anyone that says vehicles needs to be in ambush is a joke.

You obviously just got killed by a tank. I suggest you take a minute, sit back and calm down before you clutter the forums with your QQing.

Tanks are easy to take out. If you have problems doing this, then I have bad news for you: you are probably bad. Check the Items in the market you should find some stuff there that can help you get better. I would suggest swarm launchers. Pro tip: hold down the trigger to fire them. That way it locks on. Try this and let me know how it went.

Awww.... look who brought the NERF TANKS thread back

I don't mean tanks are OP like in the post, what i meant was missiles are OP.

Tanks, missiles, dropships, Idc...they are one in the same.... I support the OP. This game has become more about vehicles and less shooter.

I won't say remove tanks but infantry needs a reliable counter to them. Tanks have shield extenders, shield boosters, shield resistance.....I mean, jeez, wtf do they need all of those for? Not to mention, their turrets have 20% damage modules that you can buy plus whatever level you skilled them up to. Infantry's AV grenades don't have damage skills..neither do the swarms.

That's why we need infantry only maps or objectives on the maps inaccessible to vehicles or something.

And anyone that says vehicles needs to be in ambush is a joke.

lol @ swarms
swarms are only good on armor vehicles and 99% of tankers run shield tanks

This is true. I ran armor till missiles effed me over. Now I am back to shield tanks.

We have been asking CCP to fix armor tanks for 3 builds now and nothing has happened so far.

CCP has always favored shields in Eve, I doubt they change their ways in Dust

The issue wouldn't be so bad if we had bigger teams with vehicle limits on the field. As it stands though, ability to have 5 vehicles DS/TANK mix with only 16 players is rediculous. If we had 32 vs 32 with same vehicle limits we have now, there will be a larger amount of people in game that have specced into av and can counter it.

I just want to know when CCP will nerf the missiles, so i can start playing again.

Thats where tanks, always are.

All the people who say you should use teamwork, What i say to you is STFU.
Tanks snipe across the map, This isn't like a forge when you snipe and may take 2,3,4,5 shots to kill a tango across the map, it's one shot with a tank.

But you should use team work? Teamwork ok so, how do you kill a tank when the maps are designed to corridor me down ever path i take, and my team mates take?

Then get up high? how can i get up high, when my forge only works so far, and the tanks range is infinite?

At the end of the day 16 vs 16 can't have tanks that are nearly immortal on the field. Now i'm not saying make tanks easy to kill on your own, but at least give me a try maybe 4 shots with a forge?

CCP at least maybe take tanks and drop ships out of the game for maybe a week, let me enjoy the game?

The problem with getting killed by a tank in DUST 514, isn't that i've been killed by someone, it's that the person i've got killed by hasn't any skill.

All it takes is one forge gunner with 3 clear shots to take out a tank. Stop cryin.

not true....given that i am not specialized into forge gun or swarms, I was in match today against quite a few tanks, i think i only ended up getting one of them. Now, my forge gun is only like level 1 and im only using the standard forge gun. I can take an armor tanks shields down in one hit.

But getting to the armor, i was hitting directly and only taking down 1/8 of its armor each hit. With a shield tank, it usually takes about 3 to 4 shots to get through the shields...on a gunlogi its even more. Like a total of six shots to get through the shields on a gunlogi. By that time they have noticed where i am and killed me with those ever powerful missiles....Given that missiles and tanks should do heavy damage to infantry...saying ONE person with a forge gun can kill a tank in 3 shots is pushing it...maybe if they have specialized in it and are using a breach forge...then maybe.

Teamwork, yea iv'e played team work... but how many AV players do you need to take out a tank?

I'm still amazed that people think they should even be able to kill a proto tank solo. The thought appauls me quite frankly.

The investment for any tank driver worth his salt is massive, where as the investment into Forge's and Swarms to get them up to max is pitiful. It's a complete and utter joke frankly. As it stands one guy with a forge can take a tank out IN ONE CLIP!.

Those who say "Use teamwork" are onto something for sure, now they get one shotted instead of 3 shotted by one guy...

People whined last build when tanks ACTUALLY required teamwork, now they're just massive piles of crap that people sit in the redline with because ONE guy can now kill or make a tank hide there. The problem wasn't the tanks then, it was their quantity. People cried nerf and got what they wanted rendering millions of SP useless to the tank guys just so the "gun game" scrubs could go back to using broken AR's...

Honestly this game and it's player base are really starting to **** me off tbh. The same un-informed whines by all the idiots who want to solo this game, yet aren't willing to spec into a dedicated counter. Will you all just **** off back to CoD and BF please?

I'm still amazed that people think they should even be able to kill a proto tank solo. The thought appauls me quite frankly.

The investment for any tank driver worth his salt is massive, where as the investment into Forge's and Swarms to get them up to max is pitiful. It's a complete and utter joke frankly. As it stands one guy with a forge can take a tank out IN ONE CLIP!.

Those who say "Use teamwork" are onto something for sure, now they get one shotted instead of 3 shotted by one guy...

People whined last build when tanks ACTUALLY required teamwork, now they're just massive piles of crap that people sit in the redline with because ONE guy can now kill or make a tank hide there. The problem wasn't the tanks then, it was their quantity. People cried nerf and got what they wanted rendering millions of SP useless to the tank guys just so the "gun game" scrubs could go back to using broken AR's...

Honestly this game and it's player base are really starting to **** me off tbh. The same un-informed whines by all the idiots who want to solo this game, yet aren't willing to spec into a dedicated counter. Will you all just **** off back to CoD and BF please?

this is what you cease to understand:
-the average tank even a done-up sica is worth upwards of half a million (my sica is worth 541k ISK)
-mass X velocity -¦ = momentum. the tank fires much larger shells then you little forge gun, round from a tank (even today's tanks) can travel many miles before loosing power =so don't whine about infinite range=
-you are just one guy who weights about 800 lbs the tank weighs probably 12000 pounds (6 short tons)
-your armour is about an inch this the tanks armour is about 3 inches thick

long story short tanks aren't OP your just not good at taking them out so your going to whine about them being "op" which is a invalid statement because they aren't

I'm still amazed that people think they should even be able to kill a proto tank solo. The thought appauls me quite frankly.

The investment for any tank driver worth his salt is massive, where as the investment into Forge's and Swarms to get them up to max is pitiful. It's a complete and utter joke frankly. As it stands one guy with a forge can take a tank out IN ONE CLIP!.

Those who say "Use teamwork" are onto something for sure, now they get one shotted instead of 3 shotted by one guy...

People whined last build when tanks ACTUALLY required teamwork, now they're just massive piles of crap that people sit in the redline with because ONE guy can now kill or make a tank hide there. The problem wasn't the tanks then, it was their quantity. People cried nerf and got what they wanted rendering millions of SP useless to the tank guys just so the "gun game" scrubs could go back to using broken AR's...

Honestly this game and it's player base are really starting to **** me off tbh. The same un-informed whines by all the idiots who want to solo this game, yet aren't willing to spec into a dedicated counter. Will you all just **** off back to CoD and BF please?

not true....given that i am not specialized into forge gun or swarms, I was in match today against quite a few tanks, i think i only ended up getting one of them. Now, my forge gun is only like level 1 and im only using the standard forge gun. I can take an armor tanks shields down in one hit.

But getting to the armor, i was hitting directly and only taking down 1/8 of its armor each hit. With a shield tank, it usually takes about 3 to 4 shots to get through the shields...on a gunlogi its even more. Like a total of six shots to get through the shields on a gunlogi. By that time they have noticed where i am and killed me with those ever powerful missiles....Given that missiles and tanks should do heavy damage to infantry...saying ONE person with a forge gun can kill a tank in 3 shots is pushing it...maybe if they have specialized in it and are using a breach forge...then maybe.

Tanks have already been nerfed. Stop crying.