He said that because they believe no one really wants it, so they have other things they can focus on. They aren't going to take a different direction on anything unless we show that we want and support it.

I actually have a problem using the current 'instant hit' mechanics. RL technology and logic is pretty drilled into me that you have to lead your targets. It's almost impossible for me to snipe without leading the target, It's just too weird.

Just saying when you have one player shoot a bullet you have to send that update to all other 24 players (server counts as 1) Server gets the update makes the clock turn in which it takes inventory of all the objects in play then do the math then send out the update to the other 24 players.

Now throw thousands of objects into play, each with their own hp bars, heading, xyz position, velocity, id numbers, item id numbers.

You get the point.

No he doesnt he never does hes a moron.

I was outside doing some yardwork, and another idea occured to me. Would it be possible to have a range variable at which point there was a hit delay?
To clarify: what if all weapons hit instantaneously within a specified range, but had a hard-timed hit delay beyond that point up until their range is exceeded. That way you can simulate a necessity to lead your targets at longer ranges without having to generate and calculate a physical projectile and it's vector.

Like this idea.

Your idea is a decent compromise, and would possibly bridge the gap between programming physics for every molecule of a weapons ammo once firedGǪ kind of thing and instant hits over all distances. Would it also be possible to program hit detection based on weapon type? That way you could launch with a simple and robust system and add more bells and whistles as the game evolves...

Also, if we assume that the programming is no obstacle and that this sort of thing can be done without a hit to performance, I am all for it. Though I don't think this is the case. A more intricate system would be more prone to failure.

But as long as we are running with the possibilities...

I would also be in favor of damage gradients for different hit zones on the target. It can get to be sort of ridiculous in an FPS to watch players shooting other players in the foot a few times to score kills.

There could be whiffs, graze shots, different suit types would have different vulnerable zones. Armor could take damage differently than shields. Some suits could have shields that concentrated defensive force in front of the merc (but were weaker to the sides and back) for a a charging into battle style of play. Some armor could negate headshots, but leave limbs vulnerable. Shots that hit armor plating might be deflected, but those that hit the soft material of the drop suit might cause more damage depending on the type of weapon used. No end to what you could do. All depends on what you're aiming for...

An m16 round travels at over 900meters per second. In dust with an AR, that bullet would reach its maximum distance (about 100m) in a single frame. Bullet travel isn't too much of a nessessity.

I'm not talking just about ARs, and the plasma fired from the current ARs doesn't suffer any form of bullet drop.

and why should it?Its not a piece of steel is it?

It really should be enforced on snipers. At the very least travel time, even if no bullet drop. The rest don't matter as much, bigger fish to fry.

REALLY? The round from the sniper rifle that we currently have available is firing a round at 2500 meters per second. That would equate to a speed of 5397.727272 miles and hour. I think that would equate to being a relatively instant hit at 150 - 500 meters. Hell that would equate to instant hit at 1500 meters.

Before you start complaining and making suggestions that are ludicrous in comparison to the presented statistics you should do some math and take a moment to put the final answer into perspective. It is a rail gun and it is pushing a round to hyper velocities.

Wow, I never new that.
I've been instinctively trying to lead my targets the whole time I've been playing Dust.

Thanks for the post man.. (This explains a lot of my .. ah... gunplay coutcomes).