I agree with you 100% now someone fit a HMG to my scout suit PRONTO!!!

I also think people are forgetting that the scout suit has the lowest radar profile, I believe that is their best asset. It gets even sneakier with all the modules that help in that aspect.

CRY MOAR MOFOS DA SCOUTS ARE BAK

I feel there is a difference between manueverability and just plain dodging bullets, we're not in the Matrix (though, I think a good amount of us have taken both the red and blue pills). Like I said earlier, halfway between where it is now and where it was in the previous build would be good IMO. That being said, there are players who are just better at fully utilizing different strafing techniques and this shows even in the games being played now. It should require skill and not be accessible to everyone without significant practice or proper use of technique. When a sub-par player like myself can come in and pretend to be Neo or some kung-fu master and dodge 75% of the bullets fired from a submachine gun and three hit kill an assult with a pistol, I know something is up.

if they can't increase the strafe speeds again they need to give dropsuits their old base health back

The reasons for bullets being dodged had nothing to do with the speeds as much as it was the hit detection!

I play a heavy and I don't care if scouts get a reasonable boost to their strafe speed. However, buff a heavy's turn a bit if scouts are going to get stupid fast. This crap about out strafing a heavy's turn is ridiculous. I can grab my friend's suit of 60 pound armor, take an airsoft AEG in my had and let any one of you, dressed in shorts, try to "dance" up to me within three feet my field of view and try to side step around me. I guarantee you that you won't out circle me and the welts the airsoft BBs will leave will be your guide to your misconceptions.

Yes the game is based on Sci-Fi and it not in total compliance to RL. But the game is more hard sci-fi than fantasy sci-fi and I think that's the feel CCP is trying to stay with.

absolutely. our Turn speed is currently abysmal, even worse than the Scout's current strafe speed.

Speed is the Scout dropsuitGÇÖs primary advantage. Combined with a low scan profile, it allows the wearer to move undetected by basic EW equipment and rapidly close in on enemy units if spotted. Armed with a shotgun or module-enhanced nova knife, the Scout is lethal at close-range. Despite being grossly outmatched, skilled Scouts are able to kite the slow-turning Heavy, methodically whittling away its armor while staying out of harmGÇÖs way.

I feel there is a difference between manueverability and just plain dodging bullets, we're not in the Matrix (though, I think a good amount of us have taken both the red and blue pills). Like I said earlier, halfway between where it is now and where it was in the previous build would be good IMO. That being said, there are players who are just better at fully utilizing different strafing techniques and this shows even in the games being played now. It should require skill and not be accessible to everyone without significant practice or proper use of technique. When a sub-par player like myself can come in and pretend to be Neo or some kung-fu master and dodge 75% of the bullets fired from a submachine gun and three hit kill an assult with a pistol, I know something is up.

Scouts are meant to be able to out turn heavies

from a dev blog
DROPSUITS IN DUST 514 PART 2
Reported by ccp cmdr wang


This only works with a lone heavy, it's friend 10m away could easily kill scout. The dancing in stream of bullets from old builds should not return. The accuracy penalty while strafing at high speed could go up, so the scout has to use 2 magazines of smg to eat through heavy's armour. Speaking of armour, heavies should have their armour 800hp back.

The out turn speed tank is from EvE. In EvE, there was a weapon called a smart bomb to counter this. It was a aoe(splash damage) centered on user with few second cool down and unlimited ammo. Like the emp the ships in the matrix had, or the typhoon from Deus Ex: human revolution. Something with the radius, rof, and damage(never hurts user) of mass driver centered on user as a side arm would work well. Since scouts mainly shield tank a em damage would work well on them and be more realistic to have infinite ammo.

EvE also had modules to up turning speed, so a fast turn heavy could be made as a scout trap if we had similar mods.

There is an absolute difference between dodging and avoiding. No suit has ever been able to dodge bullets. Last patch hit detection was shocking and it may have looked like that, but no dodging was done. If your cross hairs are on the hit box when ou fire, then you hit there is no bullet travel time for 95% of weapons in dust