Pages: [1] 2 3 4 :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 1 post(s) |
|
CCP Wolfman
C C P C C P Alliance
105
|
Posted - 2012.10.22 03:05:00 -
[1] - Quote
Hi chaps,
There have been a lot of discussion about the changes we made to the strafe speed recently so I decided to lope out of my cave and talk a bit about it.
Firstly, why did we change it? We changed it because we thought that the GÇ£dancingGÇ¥ we were seeing was having a negative impact on the combat experience and, quite frankly, looked a little silly. Whilst we do want movement to be a part of combat, and we do not want static firefights, what we were seeing and experiencing (primarily with the Scout) felt too extreme. Because of this we decided to test slowing some dropsuit strafe speeds to see what the impact it would have.
What did we actually change? Well, the Logistics and Heavy are exactly the same as they were before. There have also been no changes at all to the actual speed of any of the dropsuits when it comes to forwards/backwards movement. Only the Assault and the Scout dropsuits have had tweaks to their strafe speed. The changes to the Assault are quite minor. The Scout however did take a bigger hit.
After testing these changes GÇ£in the wildGÇ¥ with the new improvements to hit detection we feel that hit was too big and are currently testing an update internally with changes to the strafe speed. Once weGÇÖre done testing weGÇÖll roll it out so you can let us know what you think.
CCP Wolfman |
|
Fargen Icehole
SyNergy Gaming
67
|
Posted - 2012.10.22 03:07:00 -
[2] - Quote
Sounds awesome. Thanks for the update. There will be many a scout happy to hear this. |
Tmills6
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
23
|
Posted - 2012.10.22 03:08:00 -
[3] - Quote
CCP Wolfman wrote:Hi chaps,
There have been a lot of discussion about the changes we made to the strafe speed recently so I decided to lope out of my cave and talk a bit about it.
Firstly, why did we change it? We changed it because we thought that the GÇ£dancingGÇ¥ we were seeing was having a negative impact on the combat experience and, quite frankly, looked a little silly. Whilst we do want movement to be a part of combat, and we do not want static firefights, what we were seeing and experiencing (primarily with the Scout) felt too extreme. Because of this we decided to test slowing some dropsuit strafe speeds to see what the impact it would have.
What did we actually change? Well, the Logistics and Heavy are exactly the same as they were before. There have also been no changes at all to the actual speed of any of the dropsuits when it comes to forwards/backwards movement. Only the Assault and the Scout dropsuits have had tweaks to their strafe speed. The changes to the Assault are quite minor. The Scout however did take a bigger hit.
After testing these changes GÇ£in the wildGÇ¥ with the new improvements to hit detection we feel that hit was too big and are currently testing an update internally with changes to the strafe speed. Once weGÇÖre done testing weGÇÖll roll it out so you can let us know what you think.
CCP Wolfman
thanks for the update wolfman and please by careful with the strafe buff I like many others don't want scouts to be able to strafe faster then the other suits can turn |
xjumpman23
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
262
|
Posted - 2012.10.22 03:10:00 -
[4] - Quote
unnerf the breach assault rifle |
Debacle Nano
Shadow Company HQ
639
|
Posted - 2012.10.22 03:11:00 -
[5] - Quote
Yess, so no more dancing in Dust! |
Sponge- Bob
40
|
Posted - 2012.10.22 03:16:00 -
[6] - Quote
xjumpman23 wrote:unnerf the breach assault rifle
You just can't help yourself... can you |
Traky78
What The French
115
|
Posted - 2012.10.22 03:16:00 -
[7] - Quote
Be carefull CCP... We don't want extreme straf... Be a good judge |
Skihids
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
969
|
Posted - 2012.10.22 03:20:00 -
[8] - Quote
Tmills6 wrote:CCP Wolfman wrote:Hi chaps,
There have been a lot of discussion about the changes we made to the strafe speed recently so I decided to lope out of my cave and talk a bit about it.
Firstly, why did we change it? We changed it because we thought that the GÇ£dancingGÇ¥ we were seeing was having a negative impact on the combat experience and, quite frankly, looked a little silly. Whilst we do want movement to be a part of combat, and we do not want static firefights, what we were seeing and experiencing (primarily with the Scout) felt too extreme. Because of this we decided to test slowing some dropsuit strafe speeds to see what the impact it would have.
What did we actually change? Well, the Logistics and Heavy are exactly the same as they were before. There have also been no changes at all to the actual speed of any of the dropsuits when it comes to forwards/backwards movement. Only the Assault and the Scout dropsuits have had tweaks to their strafe speed. The changes to the Assault are quite minor. The Scout however did take a bigger hit.
After testing these changes GÇ£in the wildGÇ¥ with the new improvements to hit detection we feel that hit was too big and are currently testing an update internally with changes to the strafe speed. Once weGÇÖre done testing weGÇÖll roll it out so you can let us know what you think.
CCP Wolfman
thanks for the update wolfman and please by careful with the strafe buff I like many others don't want scouts to be able to strafe faster then the other suits can turn
You should specify at what distance, as the radial velocity required increases with the radius. Unless you meant even if the sout was standing immediately in front of the heavy. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
|
Posted - 2012.10.22 03:21:00 -
[9] - Quote
Interesting information there. I'm a dedicated scout and love to see this suit become better, but I don't want the suit to become something that will only result in players doing the Tango. |
Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
1026
|
Posted - 2012.10.22 03:22:00 -
[10] - Quote
Let me get this straight. You took a major hit to gameplay (in my opinion), because "it looked silly'? Really? Halo gets away with it. Tribes, Quake, etc. I know I'm being harsh, and I realize that it will change, but come on. |
|
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
886
|
Posted - 2012.10.22 03:23:00 -
[11] - Quote
Traky78 wrote:Be carefull CCP... We don't want extreme straf... Be a good judge
Exactly this...CCP. we don't want scouts strafing at the speed of light. I can understand a scout needing to protect himself but scouts can't be fast while all other suits are slow. |
crazy space
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
|
Posted - 2012.10.22 03:24:00 -
[12] - Quote
I play logi, now I know why I thought all those threads were lies. lol
so my strafe speed is unchanged? I'm not crazy? it was just scout suit players bitching? lol. If you had told us the trust maybe we would of supported it. I mean if anything increase the differences in strafing speed. Don't make the extremes too different, I think scouts should have a bit more speed than me. Just not as much more as before.
I still think it's funny only scouts were nerfed and people though it was the whole game haha |
crazy space
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
879
|
Posted - 2012.10.22 03:24:00 -
[13] - Quote
Icy Tiger wrote:Let me get this straight. You took a major hit to gameplay (in my opinion), because "it looked silly'? Really? Halo gets away with it. Tribes, Quake, etc. I know I'm being harsh, and I realize that it will change, but come on. How is it extreme when most dropsuits were unchanged? |
KripnawtiQ Prime
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
206
|
Posted - 2012.10.22 03:25:00 -
[14] - Quote
Tmills6 wrote:CCP Wolfman wrote:Hi chaps,
There have been a lot of discussion about the changes we made to the strafe speed recently so I decided to lope out of my cave and talk a bit about it.
Firstly, why did we change it? We changed it because we thought that the GÇ£dancingGÇ¥ we were seeing was having a negative impact on the combat experience and, quite frankly, looked a little silly. Whilst we do want movement to be a part of combat, and we do not want static firefights, what we were seeing and experiencing (primarily with the Scout) felt too extreme. Because of this we decided to test slowing some dropsuit strafe speeds to see what the impact it would have.
What did we actually change? Well, the Logistics and Heavy are exactly the same as they were before. There have also been no changes at all to the actual speed of any of the dropsuits when it comes to forwards/backwards movement. Only the Assault and the Scout dropsuits have had tweaks to their strafe speed. The changes to the Assault are quite minor. The Scout however did take a bigger hit.
After testing these changes GÇ£in the wildGÇ¥ with the new improvements to hit detection we feel that hit was too big and are currently testing an update internally with changes to the strafe speed. Once weGÇÖre done testing weGÇÖll roll it out so you can let us know what you think.
CCP Wolfman
thanks for the update wolfman and please by careful with the strafe buff I like many others don't want scouts to be able to strafe faster then the other suits can turn
This. The dancing looked rediculous and it was annoying. But be carefull with it!
|
Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous
SyNergy Gaming
242
|
Posted - 2012.10.22 03:27:00 -
[15] - Quote
Glad you guys at CCP voiced your opinions on this, it was/is quite a hot topic. Interested in seeing future changes, good luck! |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
|
Posted - 2012.10.22 03:28:00 -
[16] - Quote
Progress. I like this a lot. Do not dissapoint though. |
Grenwal Hiesenberg
Shadow Company HQ
225
|
Posted - 2012.10.22 03:33:00 -
[17] - Quote
Even though I'm a dedicated scout this build, don't put it back, the dancing was painfully silly and unrealistic. Maybe about halfway between now and where it was or a tad less, we do not need shotgun fairies back nor do many people want them (unless that was YOU.....). |
Sponge- Bob
40
|
Posted - 2012.10.22 03:35:00 -
[18] - Quote
Grenwal Hiesenberg wrote:Even though I'm a dedicated scout this build, don't put it back, the dancing was painfully silly and unrealistic. Maybe about halfway between now and where it was or a tad less, we do not need shotgun fairies back nor do many people want them (unless that was YOU.....).
Unrealistic you understand that half the ideas that make up Eve and DUST are UNREALISTIC ! |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1591
|
Posted - 2012.10.22 03:37:00 -
[19] - Quote
crazy space wrote:I play logi, now I know why I thought all those threads were lies. lol
so my strafe speed is unchanged? I'm not crazy? it was just scout suit players bitching? lol. If you had told us the trust maybe we would of supported it. I mean if anything increase the differences in strafing speed. Don't make the extremes too different, I think scouts should have a bit more speed than me. Just not as much more as before.
I still think it's funny only scouts were nerfed and people though it was the whole game haha
LOL I can imagine how wrong the logi/heavy players must feel. |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
|
Posted - 2012.10.22 03:38:00 -
[20] - Quote
Grenwal Hiesenberg wrote:Even though I'm a dedicated scout this build, don't put it back, the dancing was painfully silly and unrealistic. Maybe about halfway between now and where it was or a tad less, we do not need shotgun fairies back nor do many people want them (unless that was YOU.....). Scout with a shotgun>scout with anything else. Thats just how it is. Even when I played a scout I hated scouts with shotguns. That is no reason to hate on strafing though.
Hate the player not the game mechanics.
Thanks for the update ccp. |
|
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2047
|
Posted - 2012.10.22 03:40:00 -
[21] - Quote
I might have to take my scout suit of its hanger and dust it off |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
|
Posted - 2012.10.22 03:41:00 -
[22] - Quote
Grenwal Hiesenberg wrote:Even though I'm a dedicated scout this build, don't put it back, the dancing was painfully silly and unrealistic. Maybe about halfway between now and where it was or a tad less, we do not need shotgun fairies back nor do many people want them (unless that was YOU.....).
You must not have seen a nova knife wielding ninja yet have you?
Seriously though this is Sci-fi.. Everything is nigh unrealistic. Besides we're clones, and it's far flung future in a different galaxy. I'm sure our clones are above the average persons. |
Talruum Tezztarozza
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
73
|
Posted - 2012.10.22 03:46:00 -
[23] - Quote
Maken Tosch wrote:crazy space wrote:I play logi, now I know why I thought all those threads were lies. lol
so my strafe speed is unchanged? I'm not crazy? it was just scout suit players bitching? lol. If you had told us the trust maybe we would of supported it. I mean if anything increase the differences in strafing speed. Don't make the extremes too different, I think scouts should have a bit more speed than me. Just not as much more as before.
I still think it's funny only scouts were nerfed and people though it was the whole game haha LOL I can imagine how wrong the logi/heavy players must feel.
Can't agree with this more lol |
Skihids
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
969
|
Posted - 2012.10.22 03:49:00 -
[24] - Quote
Would you be willing to give us the percentage decrease that the Assault suit strafe was decreased?
So the hit detection fix was responsible for the majority of the apparent strafe nerf. It appears that someone called that in a previous post or two. |
Aighun
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
666
|
Posted - 2012.10.22 04:07:00 -
[25] - Quote
crazy space wrote:I play logi, now I know why I thought all those threads were lies. lol
so my strafe speed is unchanged? I'm not crazy? it was just scout suit players bitching? lol. If you had told us the trust maybe we would of supported it. I mean if anything increase the differences in strafing speed. Don't make the extremes too different, I think scouts should have a bit more speed than me. Just not as much more as before.
I still think it's funny only scouts were nerfed and people though it was the whole game haha
Scout and assault. Assault suit lateral movement still noticeably slow.
I switched to almost all logi suits this build. Even though the logi used to seem pretty slow before it does not seem so slow now... |
Regis Mk V
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
109
|
Posted - 2012.10.22 04:20:00 -
[26] - Quote
CCP Wolfman wrote:Hi chaps,
and we do not want static firefights
CCP Wolfman
So nice to hear that because that's what we have now everything is static. Thank you for the update CCP! |
jenza aranda
BetaMax.
1005
|
Posted - 2012.10.22 04:34:00 -
[27] - Quote
i think it goes back to the whole rock paper sissors argument. in the previous build yes, scouts where hard to hit with precision weapons like ARs and other things, but spread and AoE weapons like HMGs and Mass drivers can take out scouts with relitive ease. they cant dance if the whole floor is exploding :P |
Belzeebub Santana
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
409
|
Posted - 2012.10.22 04:40:00 -
[28] - Quote
So when will the strafe be adjusted? Before Corp. Battles or is this coming next build?
Nice to hear from you every now and again. |
Aighun
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
666
|
Posted - 2012.10.22 04:51:00 -
[29] - Quote
And it was then that he found himself wondering if he was here to beta test a video game or as an extra in a futuristic s/f remake of 2011's remake of 1984's "Footloose"... |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
|
Posted - 2012.10.22 05:04:00 -
[30] - Quote
I think some of you are suffering from Chorophobia.
|
|
|
|
|
Pages: [1] 2 3 4 :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |