Swarm Launchers - fix required -
1. increase in speed - anti air rockets should be able to out accelerate flying targets other wise the are not fit for purpose.
2. Warhead size - increase the size of warheads so that it is on a par with the forge gun of equal level.
3. Ammo levels - Swarm Launchers should have greater ammo available, at least 2 full reloads available before the need for resupply.
4. Dumbfire - please fix this. there should be a panic, unguided, dumbfire for those close in emergencies.
5. Range - increase standard lock range to between 500 and 750 metres. Most modern AV missiles have effective ranges in the 1.5 to 2Km range.

From which I gather you have not flown a dropship and just assume that because you periodically see them flying unopposed they must be invincible win-buttons that never die.

Increase Capacity, First, increase the capacity on it so that they can fire 3-4 volleys before having to reload

Please use something other than the militia version before commenting on the effectiveness of an item. Only the militia swarm has 2 volleys per reload, the others have 4.

[Well intentioned ideas that miss the point.]

Another key aspect that is similar between ships and vehicles is the capacitor. A good way to grasp this concept is to think of capacitors as the energy source that powers everything in a vehicle. From weapon turrets to repair modules, almost everything that you fit on to your vehicle in DUST 514 will need to draw capacitor points in order to function. Because of the fusion technology that the capacitor is based on, you will never GÇ£run outGÇ¥ of capacitors in the long run, since it will always replenish itself over time. However, as you activate weapons, scanners, ECM and other modules over the course of a battle it is very likely that your vehicle will deplete its stock of capacitors in short order.

ThereGÇÖs an old adage that states GÇ£an enemy canGÇÖt attack what the enemy canGÇÖt see.GÇ¥ and this is certainly the case when we add electronic warfare to the battlefield. Advanced combat vehicles like the HAV require a host of electronic gadgets in order to identify, acquire, and dispatch threats effectively. Electronic counter-measures on the other hand, can leave your enemies blind and helpless on the field and often during critical moments.

Please use something other than the militia version before commenting on the effectiveness of an item. Only the militia swarm has 2 volleys per reload, the others have 4.

I actually don't use swarms, I'm a pilot and with the amount of bitching about swarms, I figured ya'll must need a boost.
But I also suggested a lower amount of damage per shot so to balance it out we give every swarm launcher more ammo, forgive me in having one error.

Swarm and forge combos can be very effective just sayin

They can be very effective in that they have the remote possibility of hitting. lol

Misses the point

Why not split AA and AG launchers then?

Title says it all.

If anyone wants a real estimation of how easy it is to shoot a dropship with a Forge (it's nearly impossible) go test it yourself.

Sorry Leither, You are dead wrong on this..Or are at least doing it wrong. Just like Forge Sniping infantry (I do it quite often), you need to learn to lead your targets. I take down Dropships with no Problem. Now I agree they DO need to up the Swarm Launcher speed a fraction (or maybe just on the higher level swarms), but this dribble about the Forge Guns not being effective against Drop Ships is just sad

It decidedly depends on the pilot. You can kill most of the guys hanging around in the public lobbies with a Forge because they don't have quite the experience other pilots do.

Kudos to those who HAVE figured out how to fly evasion maneuvers, but there's no way that those entitle you to being nigh-on invincible. xD

Go try it yourself and see how it fares. I don't know anyone "good" enough to consistently take down well-piloted dropships.

Go try it yourself and see how it fares. I don't know anyone "good" enough to consistently take down well-piloted dropships.

I'm running 2,564ish shields and some level one turrets, oh and a nice shield recharger. that comes to about 350,000 ISK, a forge gun costs 6,000. lets run some numbers.

you can buy: 60 forge guns for what it costs me to buy 1 myron.

my current average ISK per [FULL AMBUSH] match is 70K. a full match takes 15 minutes.
that's 6 matches and an hour and a half using militia blueprint gear to buy a single outfitted myron.

to earn back what it cost me to Buy my myron it has to survive 6 matches (90 min)

to earn what it cost you to buy a forge gun it will take you .0851 matches
....thinking what is .0851 matches? it's a minute and 20 seconds


quit whining.

*all numbers rounded for convenience of mental math*
*all decimals accurate to the third point*