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Musta Tornius
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.02.11 23:59:00 -
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Updated the second post with the large blaster and railgun turret information. Thank you very much and a +1 for 0 Try Harder for his work in researching all the turret stats! More like this guys and we could have the guide finished in no time! |
Musta Tornius
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.02.16 18:21:00 -
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This is a list of weapons still needed to be checked and added. If anyone could help by thoroughly testing some and supplying the data I would be most grateful.
prototype snipers
level 4 and prototype HMGs
all massdrivers
all small turrets
prototype smgs
all swarm launchers
prototype pistols
prototype shotguns |
Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors
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Posted - 2013.02.21 14:33:00 -
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I can get all small missile turrets, I'll work on them tonight. Honestly while people are checking these things, I think this would be the post to put the % damage modifier against shield/armor for all the different weapons as well. |
0 Try Harder
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.21 18:19:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:I can get all small missile turrets, I'll work on them tonight. Honestly while people are checking these things, I think this would be the post to put the % damage modifier against shield/armor for all the different weapons as well.
send me a mail if you want help with this. I can test small hybrids up to lvl4 at the same time too. |
GeneralButtNaked
Burnwall Industries
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Posted - 2013.02.22 01:59:00 -
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I can help with the remaining HMGs, I have Proficiency three and Gastuns in stock. |
Musta Tornius
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.02.22 09:43:00 -
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Although things such as damage against shields / armour and how much the efficiency drops per 10m and headshot damage would be interesting stats. They would be better off in a more complete guide, this one was just intended for ranges. Maybe in the future I will add that to here once this guide is finished.
Thanks for the interest in helping it really is appreciated. |
GeneralButtNaked
Burnwall Industries
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Posted - 2013.02.22 19:00:00 -
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All values with sharpshooter level 1.
Gastuns Min-7 HMG
Max Range: 69.5(could sometimes get a reading on 70 m)
Optimal Range: 1-40 m
Meta Level: 10
Six Kin Burst HMG
Max Range: 69 m
Optimal Range: 1-40 m
Meta Level: 9
Freedom Assault HMG
Max Range: 93 m
Optimal Range: 1-53 m
Meta Level: 9
Boundless HMG
Max Range: 69 m
Optimal Range: 1-40 m
Meta Level: 8
I will do the advanced assault today sometime. |
Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors
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Posted - 2013.02.23 04:03:00 -
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St-1 missile/fragmented/cycled= 100m
Accelerated st-1= 140m
Also noted that supply depots and CRUs have a critical zone with more weakness at their tops.
Testing next tier... |
Musta Tornius
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.02.23 09:05:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:St-1 missile/fragmented/cycled= 100m
Accelerated st-1= 140m
Also noted that supply depots and CRUs have a critical zone with more weakness at their tops.
Testing next tier...
Are those max ranges? What about optimals? |
Musta Tornius
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.02.23 14:16:00 -
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Updated the 2nd post with the HMG info supplied by GeneralButtNaked, thank you very much. |
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Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors
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Posted - 2013.02.23 17:18:00 -
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Musta Tornius wrote:Beren Hurin wrote:St-1 missile/fragmented/cycled= 100m
Accelerated st-1= 140m
Also noted that supply depots and CRUs have a critical zone with more weakness at their tops.
Testing next tier... Are those max ranges? What about optimals?
Those are optimals. Max is tough to figure without a friend because I think the missile disappear/explode not very far outside the optimal. Or at least it doesn't show an explosion. The efficiency number isn't accurate outside the optimal for that reason. |
Musta Tornius
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.02.25 20:49:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:Musta Tornius wrote:Beren Hurin wrote:St-1 missile/fragmented/cycled= 100m
Accelerated st-1= 140m
Also noted that supply depots and CRUs have a critical zone with more weakness at their tops.
Testing next tier... Are those max ranges? What about optimals? Those are optimals. Max is tough to figure without a friend because I think the missile disappear/explode not very far outside the optimal. Or at least it doesn't show an explosion. The efficiency number isn't accurate outside the optimal for that reason.
Shoot at a friendly turret, if it reaches the turret it won't damage it but it will make the turret target you for a second before it resumes its automated rotation.
Besides this doesn't the target information dissapear when you are targeting outside of weapon range? |
0 Try Harder
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.02.25 21:44:00 -
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Musta Tornius wrote:Besides this doesn't the target information dissapear when you are targeting outside of weapon range?
yes, and if it does not it reads "0% effectiveness" |
Musta Tornius
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.02.27 20:23:00 -
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Just a minor update, from testing it seems Forge Guns max range is 300m which is the same as optimal so I updated that stat.
Beren if you could get the max ranges for the weapons you tested I could add them to the list too, thanks! |
Grenwal Hiesenberg
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2013.03.06 05:10:00 -
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I've come back here so many times, thanks. *BUMP*  |
lieskalspsi
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.03.12 03:49:00 -
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Musta Tornius wrote:Drommy Hood wrote:The info on the shot guns is a little misleading though. I understand that obviously your just going by what the game tells you, but I can assure you that at 9 meters I do not do max damage with my shot gun. Could be to do with te spread maybe? But basically anything over 1m seems to do less damage. I can 1 shot most stuff at 1m range. At 5m all I can do is tickle them. Well I assume the shotgun pellets are individual shots that do damage, and their damage is max up to 6-9 metres. Whether or not you can get them all on target at that range is a different matter alltogether. I'm sure hitting a LAV for instance at that distance with all the pellets is not an impossible task.
the fact that the shotgun is so limited, range-wise, is completely unrealistic, and absolute BS. short of a sawn-off, no shotgun has a range that limited. Come on, CCP, a shotgun was designed as a short- to mid-range weapon, not a painfully short-ranged weapon |
0 Try Harder
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
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Posted - 2013.03.16 02:44:00 -
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These are the range values for a few pistols. These values are what I found with lvl 4 sidearm sharpshooter.
IMPORTANT! SOME OF THE OLD PISTOL VALUES ARE INCORRECT!
Carthum Assault Scramler Pistol
Max Range: 90 m
Optimal Range: 1 - 23 m
Viziam Scrambler Pistol
Max Range: 85 m
Optimal Range: 1 - 22 m
'Burnscar' Khanid Scrambler Pistol
Max Range: 85 m
Optimal Range: 1 - 22 m
'Flashbow' CAR-9 Burst Scrambler Pistol
Max Range: 81 m
Optimal Range: 1 - 21 m
IA5 Tactical Scrambler Pistol
Max Range: 81 m
Optimal Range: 1 - 21 m
CAR-9 Burst Scrambler Pistol
Max Range: 81 m
Optimal Range: 1 - 21 m |
0 Try Harder
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
146
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Posted - 2013.03.16 02:46:00 -
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Dividing above values by 1.2 (lvl 4 sharpshooter)
IA5 Tactical Scrambler Pistol
Max Range: 61 m
Optimal Range: 1 - 17 m
Meta Level: 5
CAR-9 Burst Scrambler Pistol
Max Range: 61 m
Optimal Range: 1 - 17 m
Meta Level: 5
'Flashbow' CAR-9 Burst Scrambler Pistol
Max Range: 61 m
Optimal Range: 1 - 17 m
Meta Level: 6
Viziam Scrambler Pistol
Max Range: 70 m
Optimal Range: 1 - 18 m
Meta Level: 7
Carthum Assault Scramler Pistol
Max Range: 75 m
Optimal Range: 1 - 19 m
Meta Level: 8
'Burnscar' Khanid Scrambler Pistol
Max Range: 70 m
Optimal Range: 1 - 18 m
Meta Level: 13
I'll check out the other pistols tomorrow. Hopefully this is the right calculation. If not, you can use fix it by using the values in the previous post :3 The flashbow values (old ones) are wrong. |
Musta Tornius
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.03.16 08:30:00 -
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Thanks for the info, I'll roll a throwaway alt and take a look myself later today. I wonder when the ranges changed again. |
Musta Tornius
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.03.16 23:25:00 -
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Right, status update, I rechecked all the pistols except for prototype with a new alt so got the right numbers. A great deal of the pistols were off by 2-4m for some reason and some a lot more. They have all been corrected and verified now.
Thanks for bringing this up 0 Try Harder and thank you for the rest of the values that were missing! |
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Nirwanda Vaughns
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.03.26 01:09:00 -
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amazing job bud. dunno how correct it is but its a great starting point and let me see why my creo breach AR is shocking lol |
Nirwanda Vaughns
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.03.26 01:10:00 -
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ahh ignore this. read it wrong but just in case i didnt. shouldnt you multiply the optimal by 1.xx to get the skill applied? |
Musta Tornius
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.03.26 10:36:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:ahh ignore this. read it wrong but just in case i didnt. shouldnt you multiply the optimal by 1.xx to get the skill applied?
Not sure if you wanted me to erspond to this or not but just in case, yes multiple by 1.xx where xx is your sharpshooter bonus to get the correct optimal range as well as correct max range. If you also have a sharpshooter proficiency then you'll have to do 1.XX * 1.YY where yy is the proficiency bonus. At least that is what I assume from other skill stacking in dust. I'll need to test it at some point when I get there (soon).
Also in your previous post you wondered how correct the stats are, well they are very correct :). They might vary by a metre or two but no more unless I've recorded it completely wrong. If you notice anything that seems off from your own experience or testing do say so and I'll look into it.
PS! Getting close to 100k thread views, come on guys let's get it over!
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Sjem'Tolk
KaDeiM Directorate
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Posted - 2013.03.27 16:19:00 -
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As far as the sharpshooter...
I have been testing the guns as I go up on my levels, and making a spreadsheet on their information. Also, the one thing that is missing (Sharpshooter Rifles) that I am adding is how many shots you get with each rifle before you have to reload. All the lower level SSR's only allow 3 shots before reload, and until you get higher (with added meta numbers) do the number of shots increase before having to reload.
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0 Try Harder
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2013.03.28 02:31:00 -
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the # of shots before reload is listed in the item info. If you hit triangle on a weapon, then R2 you'll get to the Attributes tab. On the Attributes tab you'll see "clip size". That's how many shots you get before you have to reload. Scrambler pistols are the only exception (for now) because the skill increases the # of rounds in a clip.
But what would be good info is the percentage decrease outside of the optimal range, and before the max if you're interested :3 |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.04.03 19:21:00 -
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I didn't see the C27-N Specialist Sniper Rifle up there....it's currently salvage only FYI. |
Musta Tornius
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.04.03 20:12:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:I didn't see the C27-N Specialist Sniper Rifle up there....it's currently salvage only FYI.
Nope I haven't got my hands on that one, besides I got no sniper skills really in this build so I'd need someone else to get the stats for that one. Feel free to help if you can :) |
0 Try Harder
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
190
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Posted - 2013.04.07 01:27:00 -
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Musta Tornius wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:I didn't see the C27-N Specialist Sniper Rifle up there....it's currently salvage only FYI. Nope I haven't got my hands on that one, besides I got no sniper skills really in this build so I'd need someone else to get the stats for that one. Feel free to help if you can :)
I checked my alt, and he does not have one either. I can confirm that the Kaalakiota Tactical Sniper Rifle and Ishukone Sniper Rifle have the same range as the others sniper rifles (599m). One day he'll get a thale, and I'll try that too.
Lvl 3 sharpshooter, could see target @ 680m, but not at 690. |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.04.07 02:31:00 -
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0 Try Harder wrote:Musta Tornius wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:I didn't see the C27-N Specialist Sniper Rifle up there....it's currently salvage only FYI. Nope I haven't got my hands on that one, besides I got no sniper skills really in this build so I'd need someone else to get the stats for that one. Feel free to help if you can :) I checked my alt, and he does not have one either. I can confirm that the Kaalakiota Tactical Sniper Rifle and Ishukone Sniper Rifle have the same range as the others sniper rifles (599m). One day he'll get a thale, and I'll try that too. Lvl 3 sharpshooter, could see target @ 680m, but not at 690.
Beware, it doesn't show up under assets, only fitting. |
Musta Tornius
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.04.07 06:30:00 -
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Looks like all the regular sniper rifles you can get from the market have now been added, thanks to 0 Try Harder for the info of the last two rifles! |
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