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Ragna Soul Algintal Core Gallente Federation 90	Posted - 2012.10.02 04:53:00 - [61] - Quote Rorek IronBlood wrote: Ragna Soul wrote: Ok after reading this entire thread i see how this got "dumb downed". its all because most of this community cant say anything of value to the game. i'm not saying everyone just the real hardcore haters just because they get killed one or two times they freak out and say the game sucks. its a beta get over it. it improves over time and you may not like what they did but its not like the devs cant just apply a hotfix and balance stuff out. Regis the only thing i like about u is your name (im a huge MEGAS fans) but u need to relax dont take things so hard just like you voice your opinion you're going to have to brunt the people that have different opinions than you. and these insults that are being spit out isnt helping anything so chill man. voice you opinion but be prepared to have people attacking you opinion and treat the attacks with the most respect. if theres anything that i learned is that screaming, crying, and cursing always loses an arguement. Plus one and a present for you! Treasure Chest <--- Open it! Edit: For the record I disagree in that I feel it has not been "dumbed down". There is a difference between informing your players and dumbing it down. If a game lacks enough basics to inform a player then that is a problem. However this is an unfinished product. Saying it's dumbed down is like complaining about Coka~Cola from one year to the next in that you feel the forumla and swear to the heavens it has been changed. So now you do not like or agree with it. Seriously I've seen people complain that the can changed the taste. People are and always will complain. awww man plus +9000 for you!!! lol im not saying its dumb downed its just that theses ragers and QQers are basically numbing my brain out with the constant hate. its like no of these people have anything informative to say its just "spit anger and rage because i cant adapt to all the changes!" its kinda sad really and instead of having a good discussion or debate its just "curse and rage because that is always the right answer and im always right!!"
Ten-Sidhe Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 414	Posted - 2012.10.02 04:59:00 - [62] - Quote Dodging bullets with wiggling is one thing, circling faster then they can turn is another. This doesn't happen in real life with infantry since people turn at same speed. It does happen with vehicles, in some cases. Strafing speed increase that doesn't allow dodging bullets would be nice. Hit detection seems better this build, still some hiccups. Once hit detection is better, a strafing speed increase could be tested. I would like to see base movement and strafing speed modules added. EvE is not everyone type game, some will love it some will hate it. It's anything but dumbed down, but it requires no hand-eye. I think Dust should require gun game and eve style skills at same time.
Ragna Soul Algintal Core Gallente Federation 90	Posted - 2012.10.02 05:04:00 - [63] - Quote Regis Mark V wrote: Ragna Soul wrote: Ok after reading this entire thread i see how this got "dumb downed". its all because most of this community cant say anything of value to the game. i'm not saying everyone just the real hardcore haters just because they get killed one or two times they freak out and say the game sucks. its a beta get over it. it improves over time and you may not like what they did but its not like the devs cant just apply a hotfix and balance stuff out. Regis the only thing i like about u is your name (im a huge MEGAS fans) but u need to relax dont take things so hard just like you voice your opinion you're going to have to brunt the people that have different opinions than you. and these insults that are being spit out isnt helping anything so chill man. voice you opinion but be prepared to have people attacking you opinion and treat the attacks with the most respect. if theres anything that i learned is that screaming, crying, and cursing always loses an arguement. ** no I'm not relaxing for anyone. I'm not here to be liked either so you can like my name for MEGAS and not like me that means ** to me. and thats great to hear man but it doesnt matter if you're just spitting out hate instead of having a reasonable debate about what you and everyone else thinks about whats right and wrong with the game. it helps no one when you cant reasonably explain your anger and frustration into a thought where it can help the Devs and explain your reasoning on why you hate that particular thing about the game.
Rorek IronBlood ZionTCD Legacy Rising 746	Posted - 2012.10.02 05:07:00 - [64] - Quote Ragna Soul wrote: Regis Mark V wrote: Ragna Soul wrote: Ok after reading this entire thread i see how this got "dumb downed". its all because most of this community cant say anything of value to the game. i'm not saying everyone just the real hardcore haters just because they get killed one or two times they freak out and say the game sucks. its a beta get over it. it improves over time and you may not like what they did but its not like the devs cant just apply a hotfix and balance stuff out. Regis the only thing i like about u is your name (im a huge MEGAS fans) but u need to relax dont take things so hard just like you voice your opinion you're going to have to brunt the people that have different opinions than you. and these insults that are being spit out isnt helping anything so chill man. voice you opinion but be prepared to have people attacking you opinion and treat the attacks with the most respect. if theres anything that i learned is that screaming, crying, and cursing always loses an arguement. ** no I'm not relaxing for anyone. I'm not here to be liked either so you can like my name for MEGAS and not like me that means ** to me. and thats great to hear man but it doesnt matter if you're just spitting out hate instead of having a reasonable debate about what you and everyone else thinks about whats right and wrong with the game. it helps no one when you cant reasonably explain your anger and frustration into a thought where it can help the Devs and explain your reasoning on why you hate that particular thing about the game. Mm. What's that, Master Yoda? Yoda, and two cents.
Regis Mark V 91	Posted - 2012.10.02 05:11:00 - [65] - Quote Ragna Soul wrote: Regis Mark V wrote: Ragna Soul wrote: Ok after reading this entire thread i see how this got "dumb downed". its all because most of this community cant say anything of value to the game. i'm not saying everyone just the real hardcore haters just because they get killed one or two times they freak out and say the game sucks. its a beta get over it. it improves over time and you may not like what they did but its not like the devs cant just apply a hotfix and balance stuff out. Regis the only thing i like about u is your name (im a huge MEGAS fans) but u need to relax dont take things so hard just like you voice your opinion you're going to have to brunt the people that have different opinions than you. and these insults that are being spit out isnt helping anything so chill man. voice you opinion but be prepared to have people attacking you opinion and treat the attacks with the most respect. if theres anything that i learned is that screaming, crying, and cursing always loses an arguement. ** no I'm not relaxing for anyone. I'm not here to be liked either so you can like my name for MEGAS and not like me that means to me. and thats great to hear man but it doesnt matter if you're just spitting out hate instead of having a reasonable debate about what you and everyone else thinks about whats right and wrong with the game. it helps no one when you cant reasonably explain your anger and frustration into a thought where it can help the Devs and explain your reasoning on why you hate that particular thing about the game. Maybe I'm tired of trying to be reasonable because for 4 builds the game still plays like dirt. Maybe when I tried to be reasonable the heads in this forum say stupid ** like adapt or die or biomass your clone and give me your stuff herp derp. So same to you if you don't like what I have to say or how I say it ignore me!
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.10.02 05:12:00 - [66] - Quote Quite a lot of responses for an OP completely lacking in substance.
Rorek IronBlood ZionTCD Legacy Rising 746	Posted - 2012.10.02 05:14:00 - [67] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Quite a lot of responses for an OP completely lacking in substance. Yup.. Mostly it's been just two or three people though attacking one another. Sad honestly.
Ragna Soul Algintal Core Gallente Federation 90	Posted - 2012.10.02 05:16:00 - [68] - Quote Regis Mark V wrote: Ragna Soul wrote: Regis Mark V wrote: Ragna Soul wrote: Ok after reading this entire thread i see how this got "dumb downed". its all because most of this community cant say anything of value to the game. i'm not saying everyone just the real hardcore haters just because they get killed one or two times they freak out and say the game sucks. its a beta get over it. it improves over time and you may not like what they did but its not like the devs cant just apply a hotfix and balance stuff out. Regis the only thing i like about u is your name (im a huge MEGAS fans) but u need to relax dont take things so hard just like you voice your opinion you're going to have to brunt the people that have different opinions than you. and these insults that are being spit out isnt helping anything so chill man. voice you opinion but be prepared to have people attacking you opinion and treat the attacks with the most respect. if theres anything that i learned is that screaming, crying, and cursing always loses an arguement. ** no I'm not relaxing for anyone. I'm not here to be liked either so you can like my name for MEGAS and not like me that means to me. and thats great to hear man but it doesnt matter if you're just spitting out hate instead of having a reasonable debate about what you and everyone else thinks about whats right and wrong with the game. it helps no one when you cant reasonably explain your anger and frustration into a thought where it can help the Devs and explain your reasoning on why you hate that particular thing about the game. Maybe I'm tired of trying to be reasonable because for 4 builds the game still plays like dirt. Maybe when I tried to be reasonable the heads in this forum say stupid ** like adapt or die or biomass your clone and give me your stuff herp derp. So same to you if you don't like what I have to say or how I say it ignore me! i dont find it reasonable just to stop talking to someone just because i dont like what you say. say what you want it doesnt mean im going to ignore what you have to say maybe you'll say something that doesnt sound like anger maybe you'll say something that will be informative. Till then i can wait. you can ignore me if you want but i dont ignore other people just cause they tell me to.
Ragna Soul Algintal Core Gallente Federation 90	Posted - 2012.10.02 05:22:00 - [69] - Quote Rorek IronBlood wrote: Ragna Soul wrote: Regis Mark V wrote: Ragna Soul wrote: Ok after reading this entire thread i see how this got "dumb downed". its all because most of this community cant say anything of value to the game. i'm not saying everyone just the real hardcore haters just because they get killed one or two times they freak out and say the game sucks. its a beta get over it. it improves over time and you may not like what they did but its not like the devs cant just apply a hotfix and balance stuff out. Regis the only thing i like about u is your name (im a huge MEGAS fans) but u need to relax dont take things so hard just like you voice your opinion you're going to have to brunt the people that have different opinions than you. and these insults that are being spit out isnt helping anything so chill man. voice you opinion but be prepared to have people attacking you opinion and treat the attacks with the most respect. if theres anything that i learned is that screaming, crying, and cursing always loses an arguement. ** no I'm not relaxing for anyone. I'm not here to be liked either so you can like my name for MEGAS and not like me that means ** to me. and thats great to hear man but it doesnt matter if you're just spitting out hate instead of having a reasonable debate about what you and everyone else thinks about whats right and wrong with the game. it helps no one when you cant reasonably explain your anger and frustration into a thought where it can help the Devs and explain your reasoning on why you hate that particular thing about the game. Mm. What's that, Master Yoda? Yoda, and two cents.
Ragna Soul Algintal Core Gallente Federation 90	Posted - 2012.10.02 05:23:00 - [70] - Quote Rorek IronBlood wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Quite a lot of responses for an OP completely lacking in substance. Yup.. Mostly it's been just two or three people though attacking one another. Sad honestly. it is really

Cortez The Killer Immobile Infantry 187	Posted - 2012.10.02 05:24:00 - [71] - Quote Regis Mark V wrote: Yeah and this game isn't to far behind MAG. The difference is CCP will have a horrible space subscription based MMO to fall back on. Zipper actually knows how to make a shooter. Also they got closed down because of Socom 4's failure. MAG sold over 1 mil in copies and that's considered good for a new IP in a saturated part of the gaming market.[/quote] Oh, so beating on this game isn't enough, you have to start ragging on EVE too? Didn't you use to play EVE? What made you stop, pray tell?[/quote] Yeah I played it to try it out the game is boring just like Dust. There is nothing fun about it I literally fell asleep playing the game quite a few times. Subbed to it for about a month worst 15 dollars I ever spent.[/quote] Hah. I look forward to cleaning out your alliance wallet.
Khortez D Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 51	Posted - 2012.10.02 05:25:00 - [72] - Quote heated discussion aside. i ask: what is wrong with moving left and right? or dodging bullets? - i don't know if their are some that thought messing with the hit detection is fun. but that wasnt my thought at all when i moved left and right. it may have been the result, but thats unavoidable, because when im in a gun fight, im not going to stand still. and since the game is buggy, thats just how its gonna happen. if taking cover was all that was needed, then even with the bad hit detection, we wouldve done that before. if you strafed, i bet its all because you thought "he has a gun pointed in my direction, time to move" as ive stated before, ive played completed games without hit detection problems. and people still strafed. it never exploited anything except the fact that your controller allows you to move left and right. before modding your console to gain an advantage was bad. now moving your analog stick left and right is bad. if you plan on answering this - no reality comparisons please. you dont respawn in real life, you dont have clones of yourself. you can't throw spawn points of where you are going to be re-born, guns are a lot harder to use in real life then on this game. etc... i could make a list but thats too big as is.
Regis Mark V 91	Posted - 2012.10.02 05:32:00 - [73] - Quote Cortez The Killer wrote: Regis Mark V wrote: Yeah and this game isn't to far behind MAG. The difference is CCP will have a horrible space subscription based MMO to fall back on. Zipper actually knows how to make a shooter. Also they got closed down because of Socom 4's failure. MAG sold over 1 mil in copies and that's considered good for a new IP in a saturated part of the gaming market. Oh, so beating on this game isn't enough, you have to start ragging on EVE too? Didn't you use to play EVE? What made you stop, pray tell?[/quote] Yeah I played it to try it out the game is boring just like Dust. There is nothing fun about it I literally fell asleep playing the game quite a few times. Subbed to it for about a month worst 15 dollars I ever spent.[/quote] Hah. I look forward to cleaning out your alliance wallet.[/quote] Hah. Joke will be on you then. Oh wait I'll be playing a better fps where skill is a factor.
Ragna Soul Algintal Core Gallente Federation 90	Posted - 2012.10.02 05:34:00 - [74] - Quote Khortez D wrote: heated discussion aside. i ask: what is wrong with moving left and right? or dodging bullets? - i don't know if their are some that thought messing with the hit detection is fun. but that wasnt my thought at all when i moved left and right. it may have been the result, but thats unavoidable, because when im in a gun fight, im not going to stand still. and since the game is buggy, thats just how its gonna happen. if taking cover was all that was needed, then even with the bad hit detection, we wouldve done that before. if you strafed, i bet its all because you thought "he has a gun pointed in my direction, time to move" as ive stated before, ive played completed games without hit detection problems. and people still strafed. it never exploited anything except the fact that your controller allows you to move left and right. before modding your console to gain an advantage was bad. now moving your analog stick left and right is bad. if you plan on answering this - no reality comparisons please. you dont respawn in real life, you dont have clones of yourself. you can't throw spawn points of where you are going to be re-born, guns are a lot harder to use in real life then on this game. etc... i could make a list but thats too big as is. good point. i havent actually seen anything wrong with strafing feels the same to me but what i think the reason why strafing was slowed down a bit is because part of the hit detection problem couldve been related. liek you're strafing quick and when the bullet would hit where you where it would act like you were still standing in the same spot but no damage would happen because you're not actually standing in that spot so the hit box kinda didnt move at the same speed the character did. im not saying this the reason and it sounds really ridiculous (even to me) but its just a theory.
Khortez D Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 51	Posted - 2012.10.02 05:41:00 - [75] - Quote i can completely understand if the hit detection was a problem. how i see it is: your characters pace was the same as it was with bad hit detection, all that happend was they fixed it. and i love it. i die more but that just tells me i need to up my game. and i will up my game. but with that being said, just make the scout and assault suits slightly faster. i mean we all want some type of chance to survive. i like having more options then finding the nearest dumpster and hiding in it. to be funny, gimme the metal gear box and ill show you how stupid some things can be. (For those who played MGS4 online and noticed that the box was your getaway from bullets)
Ragna Soul Algintal Core Gallente Federation 90	Posted - 2012.10.02 05:45:00 - [76] - Quote Khortez D wrote: i can completely understand if the hit detection was a problem. how i see it is: your characters pace was the same as it was with bad hit detection, all that happend was they fixed it. and i love it. i die more but that just tells me i need to up my game. and i will up my game. but with that being said, just make the scout and assault suits slightly faster. i mean we all want some type of chance to survive. i like having more options then finding the nearest dumpster and hiding in it. to be funny, gimme the metal gear box and ill show you how stupid some things can be. (For those who played MGS4 online and noticed that the box was your getaway from bullets) interesting! i actually believe this more than my own theory! +1 for the MGS reference too.
Saiibot Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 142	Posted - 2012.10.02 06:47:00 - [77] - Quote Zekain Kade wrote: This game already had a very dully learning curve, why would you turn that curve into a straight line? CCP, you say that this game supposed to treat you like an intelligent individual, but all I see is a game that is catering to those who lack any hand/ eye coordination. This game is literally built for retards now. CCP, I am disappoint. Sony bullied ccp into making the game for uber casuals! Sony was like "the fk you think this st is... PC?!?!' "We're trying to have this thing sell on console"
Crimson Moon V Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 184	Posted - 2012.10.02 06:55:00 - [78] - Quote Saiibot wrote: Zekain Kade wrote: This game already had a very dully learning curve, why would you turn that curve into a straight line? CCP, you say that this game supposed to treat you like an intelligent individual, but all I see is a game that is catering to those who lack any hand/ eye coordination. This game is literally built for retards now. CCP, I am disappoint. Sony bullied ccp into making the game for uber casuals! Sony was like "the fk you think this st is... PC?!?!' "We're trying to have this thing sell on console" That could actually be the truth. Sony hates clan support and they abandon games that get niche cult followings if they don't make enough money.
Saiibot Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 142	Posted - 2012.10.02 07:02:00 - [79] - Quote Cortez The Killer wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: Cortez The Killer wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: Cortez The Killer wrote: Please do specify. Your post is conflicting, as retards may not be overly intelligent, but often have excellent eye-hand coordination. Eve is a game that caters to intelligent people that often may not have great eye-hand (can spreadsheet like a boss though). I do not understand the problem, please lay it out. LoL Who cares about your spread sheet skills. An fps that overly caters to scrubs is a joke. Go play MW3 if you want an easy game. What are you talking about, random troll? Does MW3 do spreadsheets? Overly catering to scrubs? If you are going to present an arguement, make a cohesive point or a valid question. Moron. I made my point but you missed it. If you want a game that takes little hand eye then go play MW3. This game can take skill and still be complex. Right now this game takes very little skill and its sad. People like you want this game easy because they have little hand eye. I'm hoping that this game takes both. I'm hoping that CCP is developing a game that brings FPS and MMORPG gamers under the same roof for the first time in gaming history. I'm hoping to be on the ground floor of something that changes gaming, and I do not expect it to be easy for MMORPGers, FPSers, or the developers. You do not know "people like me". I definitely do not want this game to be easy. "People like me" want this game to be hard and brutal with a high attrition rate. "People like me" also support the idea that there is a game that can go cross platform and involve people that do not have the same playstyle as I do. I'd still like to hear the OP go into more detail. Games that are "hard and brutal, with a high attrition rate" won't go anywhere on console! Sorry to break it to ya
Saiibot Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 142	Posted - 2012.10.02 07:10:00 - [80] - Quote Crimson Moon V wrote: Saiibot wrote: Zekain Kade wrote: This game already had a very dully learning curve, why would you turn that curve into a straight line? CCP, you say that this game supposed to treat you like an intelligent individual, but all I see is a game that is catering to those who lack any hand/ eye coordination. This game is literally built for retards now. CCP, I am disappoint. Sony bullied ccp into making the game for uber casuals! Sony was like "the fk you think this st is... PC?!?!' "We're trying to have this thing sell on console" That could actually be the truth. Sony hates clan support and they abandon games that get niche cult followings if they don't make enough money. YESSSS SIIIRRRR!!

Saiibot Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 142	Posted - 2012.10.02 07:22:00 - [81] - Quote Regis Mark V wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Altina McAlterson wrote: Sometimes I hate everybody, I really do. I think I've gotten dumber from reading through this thread. The "twitchiness" is what we're here to test. And it will be fixed, I'm sure of it. No Dev is going to look through a sniper scope at a guy trying to run up a cliff as he's twitching all around teleporting up and down as he clips off the terrain and say to themselves "Yup, this looks good. Ship this kitten I gotta get my monaaaay." I'm pretty sure they're gonna fix that stuff. Sure CCP could screw this whole thing up and try and release it like it is now but I doubt it. If they did I wouldn't play it. But our purpose is the play this game that sucks and tell them why it sucks so they can fix it. I thought we were all on the same page, but I guess not. So whatever, go play cow clicker and stop clogging up the forums with your stupidity. I went in to this thing expecting a broken piece of crap, I didn't realize I was the only one. I just played this last update. It's a lot better in a ton of ways. It still needs a lot of work, but that's why they're not releasing it next week. So let's put on our big boy pants and actually tell them why we don't like it. Which of course means thinking, and then articulating those thoughts in a useful way. So yea, that's gonna screw a lot of people but too bad. If you don't like thinking you really don't need to play a CCP game. I'm seeing so many similarities to EVE here, and if you can't handle that then seriously, just go away. TL/DR - This game sucks at the moment and we're here to make it awesome. It has the potential to be an amazing game but it probably won't be for everyone. I have yet to see a single post from even the most idiotic player that says "This game sucks, it's just a clone of x or a ripoff of y". So hopefully we as a community of testers can help them fix it, but not by being idiots. Agreed. I tend to go on rants when people just whip out the "sucks" tag with nothing else behind it, waving it like a banner of superiority over the "ignorant masses". I need to get a handle on that, but I still stand by my point and the one that you made more succinctly that we aren't here too "tongue CCP's asses" (oh so eloquent, Regis...), but to provide the feedback necessary to help improve the game. The feedback we're already putting out on the new SP system and dropship flight ceilings are excellent examples. I'm not here to be eloquent ***. Like I said if you don't like what I have to say about this alpha then ignore me and you wont have to see anything I say ever again. Until then off ass kisser. "alpha'!!! lolololololol! thats exactly what i told them all months ago n they didn't want to hear it! lololol Playing subsequent shty builds MAKES the game an 'alpha'! If we all are indeed playing a "closed beta" that is a month or so away from release, then at this point dust 514 better be prepared to reap the wind!
Cortez The Killer Immobile Infantry 187	Posted - 2012.10.02 07:28:00 - [82] - Quote Are existing FPS games not hard and brutal with a high attrition rate? Folks that do and folks that go play Pokemon?
Auztin Dorriety Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 8	Posted - 2012.10.02 07:33:00 - [83] - Quote I don't see how lower strafe speed is dumbing down a game.Battlefield 3,MAG,Medal of Honor ,& Halo you would not & could not go Socom 2 stafe mode.That is boring & has nothing to do with aiming your gun.Finds guy runs side to side shooting gun without aiming.All you can do now is aim your gun.I think it is fine the way it is.You could increase strafe speed 1 second faster & that's as far as it goes.
Saiibot Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 142	Posted - 2012.10.02 07:36:00 - [84] - Quote Cortez The Killer wrote: Are existing FPS games not hard and brutal with a high attrition rate? Folks that do and folks that go play Pokemon? COD, BF3, and just about every other console shooter out there aren't hard, unforgiving and have a high attrition rate! Why? Because they want to sell
O'M Aly 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 1	Posted - 2012.10.02 07:40:00 - [85] - Quote Wait. Other people can't dance between bullets at all now? I mean, it's a bit harder in an assault suit. But I figured that was just the hit detection being fixed.
Cortez The Killer Immobile Infantry 187	Posted - 2012.10.02 07:55:00 - [86] - Quote If those games are not all of these things, specifically the attrition rate, why are people here? If BF3, CoD, MAG, etc have the awesomesauce, why are people playing Dust instead of them? There is some sarcasm in that question, but still a valid question. What do you see in Dust that these other games don't give?
Crimson Moon V Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 184	Posted - 2012.10.02 08:01:00 - [87] - Quote Cortez The Killer wrote: If those games are not all of these things, specifically the attrition rate, why are people here? If BF3, CoD, MAG, etc have the awesomesauce, why are people playing Dust instead of them? There is some sarcasm in that question, but still a valid question. What do you see in Dust that these other games don't give? The mmo take over the universe feeling of the game. If dust doesn't have good fps game mechanics then no one will play it. The biggest thing that bothers me is that this game was supposed to be different. All these **** fps games that cater to casuals and are filled with 12 year olds me off tbh. Is that really what you want eve players? Dust filled with 12 year olds blasting **** music on the mic.. I always thought you guys would be on our side in this skill based shooter debate. Increase the strafe speed please ccp.
Cortez The Killer Immobile Infantry 187	Posted - 2012.10.02 08:11:00 - [88] - Quote Well it is obvious that every FPS player compares Dust to previous games they have played. It could just be me, but every game I have played was no comparison on any level than the one before. Maybe I am naive, maybe I expect more out of a genre. I've been gaming since games were coded in by hand from gaming magazines in an afternoon, so I'll go with the latter.
crazy space ZionTCD Legacy Rising 879	Posted - 2012.10.02 09:33:00 - [89] - Quote Crimson Moon V wrote: Cortez The Killer wrote: Please do specify. Your post is conflicting, as retards may not be overly intelligent, but often have excellent eye-hand coordination. Eve is a game that caters to intelligent people that often may not have great eye-hand (can spreadsheet like a boss though). I do not understand the problem, please lay it out. LoL Who cares about your spread sheet skills. An fps that overly caters to scrubs is a joke. Go play MW3 if you want an easy game. Becuase they added a tutorial?
crazy space ZionTCD Legacy Rising 879	Posted - 2012.10.02 09:35:00 - [90] - Quote O'M Aly wrote: Wait. Other people can't dance between bullets at all now? I mean, it's a bit harder in an assault suit. But I figured that was just the hit detection being fixed. Yeah, its easyier to kill people so the op is a crybaby Becuase he keeps dying.



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