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Zekain Kade BetaMax. 931	Posted - 2012.10.02 01:45:00 - [1] - Quote This game already had a very dully learning curve, why would you turn that curve into a straight line? CCP, you say that this game supposed to treat you like an intelligent individual, but all I see is a game that is catering to those who lack any hand/ eye coordination. This game is literally built for retards now. CCP, I am disappoint.
Rorek IronBlood ZionTCD Legacy Rising 746	Posted - 2012.10.02 01:46:00 - [2] - Quote Care to explain your thoughts and rationalizations out further then just screaming? I'd like to see exactly what you mean by what you say.
Ignatius Crumwald Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 475	Posted - 2012.10.02 01:51:00 - [3] - Quote Zekain Kade wrote: This game already had a very dully learning curve, why would you turn that curve into a straight line? CCP, you say that this game supposed to treat you like an intelligent individual, but all I see is a game that is catering to those who lack any hand/ eye coordination. This game is literally built for retards now. CCP, I am disappoint. Whoa, guy... You haven't even seen half the game yet. They're going to give out decorations soon, and rumor has it going to be puffy stickers and macaroni pictures. If that's not hardcore to you then potato.
Cortez The Killer Immobile Infantry 187	Posted - 2012.10.02 01:58:00 - [4] - Quote Please do specify. Your post is conflicting, as retards may not be overly intelligent, but often have excellent eye-hand coordination. Eve is a game that caters to intelligent people that often may not have great eye-hand (can spreadsheet like a boss though). I do not understand the problem, please lay it out.
Tsuke Thirteen Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 24	Posted - 2012.10.02 01:59:00 - [5] - Quote And gold stars. I cannot wait for the gold stars.
Rorek IronBlood ZionTCD Legacy Rising 746	Posted - 2012.10.02 02:00:00 - [6] - Quote I do not feel as if the game has dumbed down. You want to talk about dumbing down, look at Mass Effect3. Still the game is overwhelming to newer players and will feel that way for a while -- pending on the persons of course. I would still like to know though just exactly what you feel has been "dumbed down" so as to properly have a conversation. Otherwise this was pointless, no?
Kosen Driago WarRavens 25	Posted - 2012.10.02 02:02:00 - [7] - Quote what, because of the tutorial? You dont have to follow it if you dont wan't, or need to. I think it was a good idea to implement it though
Crimson Moon V Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 184	Posted - 2012.10.02 02:04:00 - [8] - Quote Cortez The Killer wrote: Please do specify. Your post is conflicting, as retards may not be overly intelligent, but often have excellent eye-hand coordination. Eve is a game that caters to intelligent people that often may not have great eye-hand (can spreadsheet like a boss though). I do not understand the problem, please lay it out. LoL Who cares about your spread sheet skills. An fps that overly caters to scrubs is a joke. Go play MW3 if you want an easy game.
Rorek IronBlood ZionTCD Legacy Rising 746	Posted - 2012.10.02 02:05:00 - [9] - Quote Kosen Driago wrote: what, because of the tutorial? You dont have to follow it if you dont wan't, or need to. I think it was a good idea to implement it though The tutorial was needed, and still feels incomplete. I skipped most of it to be honest, but I still say they need to implement a training ground for CoC (Chain of Command) Commander, and SL (Squad Leader) basics, and how to frago, and deploy various OB (Orbital Bombardments), tactics, ect, ect.. As it stands most are stumbling and do know how to be affective leaders. Those of us whom have had the time to learn or flesh it out are lucky now as those whom come after the [beta] will be the ones losing out. It needs to be implemented quickly.
Cortez The Killer Immobile Infantry 187	Posted - 2012.10.02 02:10:00 - [10] - Quote Crimson Moon V wrote: Cortez The Killer wrote: Please do specify. Your post is conflicting, as retards may not be overly intelligent, but often have excellent eye-hand coordination. Eve is a game that caters to intelligent people that often may not have great eye-hand (can spreadsheet like a boss though). I do not understand the problem, please lay it out. LoL Who cares about your spread sheet skills. An fps that overly caters to scrubs is a joke. Go play MW3 if you want an easy game. What are you talking about, random troll? Does MW3 do spreadsheets? Overly catering to scrubs? If you are going to present an arguement, make a cohesive point or a valid question. Moron.

Noob Noobuler Algintal Core Gallente Federation 79	Posted - 2012.10.02 02:10:00 - [11] - Quote Kosen Driago wrote: what, because of the tutorial? You dont have to follow it if you dont wan't, or need to. I think it was a good idea to implement it though +1
Crimson Moon V Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 184	Posted - 2012.10.02 02:14:00 - [12] - Quote Cortez The Killer wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: Cortez The Killer wrote: Please do specify. Your post is conflicting, as retards may not be overly intelligent, but often have excellent eye-hand coordination. Eve is a game that caters to intelligent people that often may not have great eye-hand (can spreadsheet like a boss though). I do not understand the problem, please lay it out. LoL Who cares about your spread sheet skills. An fps that overly caters to scrubs is a joke. Go play MW3 if you want an easy game. What are you talking about, random troll? Does MW3 do spreadsheets? Overly catering to scrubs? If you are going to present an arguement, make a cohesive point or a valid question. Moron. I made my point but you missed it. If you want a game that takes little hand eye then go play MW3. This game can take skill and still be complex. Right now this game takes very little skill and its sad. People like you want this game easy because they have little hand eye.
Regis Mark V 91	Posted - 2012.10.02 02:14:00 - [13] - Quote Zekain Kade wrote: This game already had a very dully learning curve, why would you turn that curve into a straight line? CCP, you say that this game supposed to treat you like an intelligent individual, but all I see is a game that is catering to those who lack any hand/ eye coordination. This game is literally built for retards now. CCP, I am disappoint. Yes the amount of campers is ridiculous. Killing the strafe speed promotes camping and no gun skill at all.
Cortez The Killer Immobile Infantry 187	Posted - 2012.10.02 02:15:00 - [14] - Quote I'd like to hear in more detail what Zekain has to say on his post and why.
Crimson Moon V Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 184	Posted - 2012.10.02 02:17:00 - [15] - Quote Cortez The Killer wrote: I'd like to hear in more detail what Zekain has to say on his post and why. By nerfing strafe speed even more they are catering to casuals and scrubs with no gun game. This game is starting to feel like a CoD clone with high health.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.10.02 02:20:00 - [16] - Quote Crimson Moon V wrote: Cortez The Killer wrote: I'd like to hear in more detail what Zekain has to say on his post and why. By nerfing strafe speed even more they are catering to casuals and scrubs with no gun game. This game is starting to feel like a CoD clone with high health. Okay, why does a high strafe speed automatically equal "skilled" gameplay? The "dance" is stupid. What we really need is a boost to forward movement and a slight increase to the Sprint modifier to encourage people to be on the move, but not to be dancing back and forth such as everyone did in Planetside, which made playing the game boring.
Regis Mark V 91	Posted - 2012.10.02 02:22:00 - [17] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: Cortez The Killer wrote: I'd like to hear in more detail what Zekain has to say on his post and why. By nerfing strafe speed even more they are catering to casuals and scrubs with no gun game. This game is starting to feel like a CoD clone with high health. Okay, why does a high strafe speed automatically equal "skilled" gameplay? The "dance" is stupid. Because it takes more skill to hit a target in strafe than a target that moves like a snail.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2867	Posted - 2012.10.02 02:23:00 - [18] - Quote The Dance was ******** you shouldnt be able to weave between HMG shots and not get hit as fast as that thing fires.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.10.02 02:24:00 - [19] - Quote Regis Mark V wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: Cortez The Killer wrote: I'd like to hear in more detail what Zekain has to say on his post and why. By nerfing strafe speed even more they are catering to casuals and scrubs with no gun game. This game is starting to feel like a CoD clone with high health. Okay, why does a high strafe speed automatically equal "skilled" gameplay? The "dance" is stupid. Because it takes more skill to hit a target in strafe than a target that moves like a snail. So increase forward movement speed to enable players to cover more terrain effectively, and then you have to be worried about whether someone will run up behind you and get the drop on you. I'm in favor of putting running and sprinting speeds back up to what they were in Replication, while keeping the strafe speed low.
Crimson Moon V Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 184	Posted - 2012.10.02 02:24:00 - [20] - Quote Regis Mark V wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: Cortez The Killer wrote: I'd like to hear in more detail what Zekain has to say on his post and why. By nerfing strafe speed even more they are catering to casuals and scrubs with no gun game. This game is starting to feel like a CoD clone with high health. Okay, why does a high strafe speed automatically equal "skilled" gameplay? The "dance" is stupid. Because it takes more skill to hit a target in strafe than a target that moves like a snail. Evetards just want this game to be easy because they have garbage gun game. If ccp keeps listening to these idiots this game is going to fail after about a month or two.

Regis Mark V 91	Posted - 2012.10.02 02:26:00 - [21] - Quote Crimson Moon V wrote: Regis Mark V wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: Cortez The Killer wrote: I'd like to hear in more detail what Zekain has to say on his post and why. By nerfing strafe speed even more they are catering to casuals and scrubs with no gun game. This game is starting to feel like a CoD clone with high health. Okay, why does a high strafe speed automatically equal "skilled" gameplay? The "dance" is stupid. Because it takes more skill to hit a target in strafe than a target that moves like a snail. Evetards just want this game to be easy because they have garbage gun game. If ccp keeps listening to these idiots this game is going to fail after about a month or two. You know I hate COD but I'm considering BLOPS 2 that's how bad Dust is even MOH is looking better right now. CCP should just put it on PC for the EVE players because Dust is boring and they like boring games.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.10.02 02:28:00 - [22] - Quote Crimson Moon V wrote: Regis Mark V wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: Cortez The Killer wrote: I'd like to hear in more detail what Zekain has to say on his post and why. By nerfing strafe speed even more they are catering to casuals and scrubs with no gun game. This game is starting to feel like a CoD clone with high health. Okay, why does a high strafe speed automatically equal "skilled" gameplay? The "dance" is stupid. Because it takes more skill to hit a target in strafe than a target that moves like a snail. Evetards just want this game to be easy because they have garbage gun game. If ccp keeps listening to these idiots this game is going to fail after about a month or two. No, this is where you're wrong. Being able to dodge slow moving balls of plasma is moderately acceptable. Being able to avoid an entire magazine from and HMG because you're using a lighter suit is just plain bad gameplay mechanics. You shouldn't be able to dodge bullets by dancing from side to side, and that is not an opinion held only by EVE players. You can't even do that in Tribes and that game has the fastest movement speeds of any shooter I've played. The direction the movement speed is going in is a good one, as long as they follow it up with increased run and sprint speeds to keep the action moving more quickly.
Cortez The Killer Immobile Infantry 187	Posted - 2012.10.02 02:28:00 - [23] - Quote Crimson Moon V wrote: Cortez The Killer wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: Cortez The Killer wrote: Please do specify. Your post is conflicting, as retards may not be overly intelligent, but often have excellent eye-hand coordination. Eve is a game that caters to intelligent people that often may not have great eye-hand (can spreadsheet like a boss though). I do not understand the problem, please lay it out. LoL Who cares about your spread sheet skills. An fps that overly caters to scrubs is a joke. Go play MW3 if you want an easy game. What are you talking about, random troll? Does MW3 do spreadsheets? Overly catering to scrubs? If you are going to present an arguement, make a cohesive point or a valid question. Moron. I made my point but you missed it. If you want a game that takes little hand eye then go play MW3. This game can take skill and still be complex. Right now this game takes very little skill and its sad. People like you want this game easy because they have little hand eye. I'm hoping that this game takes both. I'm hoping that CCP is developing a game that brings FPS and MMORPG gamers under the same roof for the first time in gaming history. I'm hoping to be on the ground floor of something that changes gaming, and I do not expect it to be easy for MMORPGers, FPSers, or the developers. You do not know "people like me". I definitely do not want this game to be easy. "People like me" want this game to be hard and brutal with a high attrition rate. "People like me" also support the idea that there is a game that can go cross platform and involve people that do not have the same playstyle as I do. I'd still like to hear the OP go into more detail.
Crimson Moon V Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 184	Posted - 2012.10.02 02:39:00 - [24] - Quote >>>>No, this is where you're wrong. Being able to dodge slow moving balls of plasma is moderately acceptable. Being able to avoid an entire magazine from and HMG because you're using a lighter suit is just plain bad gameplay mechanics. You shouldn't be able to dodge bullets by dancing from side to side, and that is not an opinion held only by EVE players. You can't even do that in Tribes and that game has the fastest movement speeds of any shooter I've played. The direction the movement speed is going in is a good one, as long as they follow it up with increased run and sprint speeds to keep the action moving more quickly. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why would you add more sprint speed with the way the strafe is. That makes no sense at all. I can fly across the map but I can't sidestep faster then an obese women. This game is turning into the Hellen Keller of fps games.
Cortez The Killer Immobile Infantry 187	Posted - 2012.10.02 02:44:00 - [25] - Quote I try to imagine my buddies prancing across Fallujah like happy fairies as they do in an FPS.. it is not a realistic or pleasant thought.
Jotun Hiem Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 412	Posted - 2012.10.02 02:44:00 - [26] - Quote I don't really see how the game's been dumbed down. I mean... I guess they made swapping pieces in a fitting more fluid and they streamlined the market. That doesn't really strike me as 'dumbing down the game' though.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.10.02 02:44:00 - [27] - Quote Crimson Moon V wrote: >>>>No, this is where you're wrong. Being able to dodge slow moving balls of plasma is moderately acceptable. Being able to avoid an entire magazine from and HMG because you're using a lighter suit is just plain bad gameplay mechanics. You shouldn't be able to dodge bullets by dancing from side to side, and that is not an opinion held only by EVE players. You can't even do that in Tribes and that game has the fastest movement speeds of any shooter I've played. The direction the movement speed is going in is a good one, as long as they follow it up with increased run and sprint speeds to keep the action moving more quickly. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why would you add more sprint speed with the way the strafe is. That makes no sense at all. I can fly across the map but I can't sidestep faster then an obese women. This game is turning into the Hellen Keller of fps games. Explain to me how it makes sense to be able to dodge ****** bullets* with a sidestep? Aren't our weapons supposed to be better than real world weapons, which you can't do that with? One of the main issues people have been lamenting is the tendency to camp that apparently follows the slower strafe speed, so compensate by allowing people to cover more ground faster, which is actually useful and practical.
VirtualxBucaneer ROGUE SPADES 44	Posted - 2012.10.02 02:44:00 - [28] - Quote Regis Mark V wrote: You know I hate COD but I'm considering BLOPS 2 that's how bad Dust is even MOH is looking better right now. CCP should just put it on PC for the EVE players because Dust is boring and they like boring games. http://www.upload.ee/image/2501318/must-not-facepalm.jpg
Regis Mark V 91	Posted - 2012.10.02 02:48:00 - [29] - Quote VirtualxBucaneer wrote: Regis Mark V wrote: You know I hate COD but I'm considering BLOPS 2 that's how bad Dust is even MOH is looking better right now. CCP should just put it on PC for the EVE players because Dust is boring and they like boring games. http://www.upload.ee/image/2501318/must-not-facepalm.jpg No need to facepalm because it's true Dust is a horrible game that caters to bad players even more than COD and I thought I'd never say that.
Cortez The Killer Immobile Infantry 187	Posted - 2012.10.02 02:49:00 - [30] - Quote Regis Mark V wrote: VirtualxBucaneer wrote: Regis Mark V wrote: You know I hate COD but I'm considering BLOPS 2 that's how bad Dust is even MOH is looking better right now. CCP should just put it on PC for the EVE players because Dust is boring and they like boring games. http://www.upload.ee/image/2501318/must-not-facepalm.jpg No need to facepalm because it's true Dust is a horrible game that caters to bad players even more than COD and I thought I'd never say that. Buh-bye prancing fairy.



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