|
|
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 1 post(s) |
Regis Mark V
91
   |
Posted - 2012.10.02 02:14:00 -
[1] - Quote
Zekain Kade wrote:This game already had a very dully learning curve, why would you turn that curve into a straight line?
CCP, you say that this game supposed to treat you like an intelligent individual, but all I see is a game that is catering to those who lack any hand/ eye coordination.
This game is literally built for retards now.
CCP, I am disappoint.
Yes the amount of campers is ridiculous. Killing the strafe speed promotes camping and no gun skill at all. |
Regis Mark V
91
|
Posted - 2012.10.02 02:22:00 -
[2] - Quote
Mobius Wyvern wrote:Crimson Moon V wrote:Cortez The Killer wrote:I'd like to hear in more detail what Zekain has to say on his post and why. By nerfing strafe speed even more they are catering to casuals and scrubs with no gun game. This game is starting to feel like a CoD clone with high health. Okay, why does a high strafe speed automatically equal "skilled" gameplay? The "dance" is stupid.
Because it takes more skill to hit a target in strafe than a target that moves like a snail. |
Regis Mark V
91
|
Posted - 2012.10.02 02:26:00 -
[3] - Quote
Crimson Moon V wrote:Regis Mark V wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Crimson Moon V wrote:Cortez The Killer wrote:I'd like to hear in more detail what Zekain has to say on his post and why. By nerfing strafe speed even more they are catering to casuals and scrubs with no gun game. This game is starting to feel like a CoD clone with high health. Okay, why does a high strafe speed automatically equal "skilled" gameplay? The "dance" is stupid. Because it takes more skill to hit a target in strafe than a target that moves like a snail. Evetards just want this game to be easy because they have garbage gun game. If ccp keeps listening to these idiots this game is going to fail after about a month or two.
You know I hate COD but I'm considering BLOPS 2 that's how bad Dust is even MOH is looking better right now. CCP should just put it on PC for the EVE players because Dust is boring and they like boring games. |
Regis Mark V
91
|
Posted - 2012.10.02 02:48:00 -
[4] - Quote
VirtualxBucaneer wrote:Regis Mark V wrote:
You know I hate COD but I'm considering BLOPS 2 that's how bad Dust is even MOH is looking better right now. CCP should just put it on PC for the EVE players because Dust is boring and they like boring games.
http://www.upload.ee/image/2501318/must-not-facepalm.jpg
No need to facepalm because it's true Dust is a horrible game that caters to bad players even more than COD and I thought I'd never say that. |
Regis Mark V
91
|
Posted - 2012.10.02 02:54:00 -
[5] - Quote
Mobius Wyvern wrote:Crimson Moon V wrote:>>>>No, this is where you're wrong. Being able to dodge slow moving balls of plasma is moderately acceptable. Being able to avoid an entire magazine from and HMG because you're using a lighter suit is just plain bad gameplay mechanics. You shouldn't be able to dodge bullets by dancing from side to side, and that is not an opinion held only by EVE players. You can't even do that in Tribes and that game has the fastest movement speeds of any shooter I've played. The direction the movement speed is going in is a good one, as long as they follow it up with increased run and sprint speeds to keep the action moving more quickly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Why would you add more sprint speed with the way the strafe is. That makes no sense at all. I can fly across the map but I can't sidestep faster then an obese women. This game is turning into the Hellen Keller of fps games. Explain to me how it makes sense to be able to dodge ******* bullets with a sidestep? Aren't our weapons supposed to be better than real world weapons, which you can't do that with? One of the main issues people have been lamenting is the tendency to camp that apparently follows the slower strafe speed, so compensate by allowing people to cover more ground faster, which is actually useful and practical.
Stop comparing this "video game" to real life. We dont have FTL drives in real life. Can't inertia drop in real life. No clones in that can transfer thought and memory in real life. So your logic is completely flawed.
This is a video game if you want real life give everyone one life. |
Regis Mark V
91
|
Posted - 2012.10.02 02:57:00 -
[6] - Quote
Mobius Wyvern wrote:Regis Mark V wrote:VirtualxBucaneer wrote:Regis Mark V wrote:
You know I hate COD but I'm considering BLOPS 2 that's how bad Dust is even MOH is looking better right now. CCP should just put it on PC for the EVE players because Dust is boring and they like boring games.
http://www.upload.ee/image/2501318/must-not-facepalm.jpg No need to facepalm because it's true Dust is a horrible game that caters to bad players even more than COD and I thought I'd never say that. God dammit Regis, why are you still here? Why are you still playing this game? For what reason are you determined to just **** all over everything about this game for months on end? If it offends you so much, why are you still here? Uninstall the client and biomass your characters. Feedback is fine, but all you're doing is just posting about how the game is terrible because it doesn't fit with your vision for it. That's not helpful.
I have every right to still test this alpha build of Dust 514. If I don't tell CCP how bad there game is then all they have is a *** like you telling them how much of a good job there doing. Get your tongue out of there ass holes and pry your face away and maybe you would see how bad this **** is. Also if you don't like what I have to say about your precious game or CCP just ignore me and you'll never have to see or read my post again... |
Regis Mark V
91
|
Posted - 2012.10.02 02:58:00 -
[7] - Quote
Cortez The Killer wrote:Regis Mark V wrote:VirtualxBucaneer wrote:Regis Mark V wrote:
You know I hate COD but I'm considering BLOPS 2 that's how bad Dust is even MOH is looking better right now. CCP should just put it on PC for the EVE players because Dust is boring and they like boring games.
http://www.upload.ee/image/2501318/must-not-facepalm.jpg No need to facepalm because it's true Dust is a horrible game that caters to bad players even more than COD and I thought I'd never say that. Buh-bye prancing fairy.
Don't confuse me with your dad please. |
Regis Mark V
91
|
Posted - 2012.10.02 03:29:00 -
[8] - Quote
Crimson Moon V wrote:Blooticus wrote:I dont see how hand/eye coordination relates to intelligence. Keep the "gun game" slow and "team work" a necessity. The number of options and available tactics is what could make this game not dumb. The twitchier (is that a word?) The game gets the more you limit strategic options and the dumber the game gets. You couldn't be more wrong. Take a look at mag. The most tactical shooter I have ever played. Yet it had a healthy strafe speed and people still used teamwork.
These "tactical" players obviously think slow means "tactical". |
Regis Mark V
91
|
Posted - 2012.10.02 04:04:00 -
[9] - Quote
Mobius Wyvern wrote:Altina McAlterson wrote:Sometimes I hate everybody, I really do. I think I've gotten dumber from reading through this thread. The "twitchiness" is what we're here to test. And it will be fixed, I'm sure of it. No Dev is going to look through a sniper scope at a guy trying to run up a cliff as he's twitching all around teleporting up and down as he clips off the terrain and say to themselves "Yup, this looks good. Ship this kitten I gotta get my monaaaay." I'm pretty sure they're gonna fix that stuff.
Sure CCP could screw this whole thing up and try and release it like it is now but I doubt it. If they did I wouldn't play it. But our purpose is the play this game that sucks and tell them why it sucks so they can fix it. I thought we were all on the same page, but I guess not. So whatever, go play cow clicker and stop clogging up the forums with your stupidity. I went in to this thing expecting a broken piece of crap, I didn't realize I was the only one.
I just played this last update. It's a lot better in a ton of ways. It still needs a lot of work, but that's why they're not releasing it next week. So let's put on our big boy pants and actually tell them why we don't like it. Which of course means thinking, and then articulating those thoughts in a useful way. So yea, that's gonna screw a lot of people but too bad. If you don't like thinking you really don't need to play a CCP game. I'm seeing so many similarities to EVE here, and if you can't handle that then seriously, just go away.
TL/DR - This game sucks at the moment and we're here to make it awesome. It has the potential to be an amazing game but it probably won't be for everyone. I have yet to see a single post from even the most idiotic player that says "This game sucks, it's just a clone of x or a ripoff of y". So hopefully we as a community of testers can help them fix it, but not by being idiots. Agreed. I tend to go on rants when people just whip out the "sucks" tag with nothing else behind it, waving it like a banner of superiority over the "ignorant masses". I need to get a handle on that, but I still stand by my point and the one that you made more succinctly that we aren't here too "tongue CCP's asses" (oh so eloquent, Regis...), but to provide the feedback necessary to help improve the game. The feedback we're already putting out on the new SP system and dropship flight ceilings are excellent examples.
I'm not here to be eloquent *****. Like I said if you don't like what I have to say about this alpha then ignore me and you wont have to see anything I say ever again. Until then **** off ass kisser. |
Regis Mark V
91
|
Posted - 2012.10.02 04:07:00 -
[10] - Quote
Mobius Wyvern wrote:Regis Mark V wrote:Crimson Moon V wrote:Blooticus wrote:I dont see how hand/eye coordination relates to intelligence. Keep the "gun game" slow and "team work" a necessity. The number of options and available tactics is what could make this game not dumb. The twitchier (is that a word?) The game gets the more you limit strategic options and the dumber the game gets. You couldn't be more wrong. Take a look at mag. The most tactical shooter I have ever played. Yet it had a healthy strafe speed and people still used teamwork. These "tactical" players obviously think slow means "tactical". MAG, a game that is mostly dead, by a company that no longer exists. Great example. If you want to talk about a game that emphasizes tactics, at least mention a better example like Planetside 2, which I also play. Funny thing is, given the choice, I would go with Dust, because there's just no sense of accomplishment in P2. You can take all of Indar before you go to bed, but the other factions will just push back and camp you into your sanctuary while you're offline. You can have a 40 minute battle over a major base, be on the cusp of a narrow victory, and then the enemy leaves, caps the smaller areas around the base, and it flips to them automatically due to influence. They've changed those aspects to make the game more tactical, and I've actually started enjoying it more, despite the fact that the multiple-server thing just doesn't sit right with me after 4 years of EVE. MAG supported 256 players by designing it's missions around keeping the team separated into smaller squads around the map with a lot of environmental clutter designed to prevent long sight lines to eliminate the possibility of framerate drop. It was revolutionary, but like the original Planetside, that doesn't mean it was a great game. I think its great that so many of it's players are being drawn to Dust, and I think you'll all make a great addition to the community, but MAG isn't an example that should be drawn from unequivocally, just like any other game.
Yeah and this game isn't to far behind MAG. The difference is CCP will have a horrible space subscription based MMO to fall back on. Zipper actually knows how to make a shooter. Also they got closed down because of Socom 4's failure. MAG sold over 1 mil in copies and that's considered good for a new IP in a saturated part of the gaming market. |
|
|
Regis Mark V
91
|
Posted - 2012.10.02 04:26:00 -
[11] - Quote
[/quote]
Yeah and this game isn't to far behind MAG. The difference is CCP will have a horrible space subscription based MMO to fall back on. Zipper actually knows how to make a shooter. Also they got closed down because of Socom 4's failure. MAG sold over 1 mil in copies and that's considered good for a new IP in a saturated part of the gaming market.[/quote]
Oh, so beating on this game isn't enough, you have to start ragging on EVE too? Didn't you use to play EVE? What made you stop, pray tell?[/quote]
Yeah I played it to try it out the game is boring just like Dust. There is nothing fun about it I literally fell asleep playing the game quite a few times. Subbed to it for about a month worst 15 dollars I ever spent. |
Regis Mark V
91
|
Posted - 2012.10.02 04:30:00 -
[12] - Quote
Ragna Soul wrote:Ok after reading this entire thread i see how this got "dumb downed". its all because most of this community cant say anything of value to the game. i'm not saying everyone just the real hardcore haters just because they get killed one or two times they freak out and say the game sucks. its a beta get over it. it improves over time and you may not like what they did but its not like the devs cant just apply a hotfix and balance stuff out. Regis the only thing i like about u is your name (im a huge MEGAS fans) but u need to relax dont take things so hard just like you voice your opinion you're going to have to brunt the people that have different opinions than you. and these insults that are being spit out isnt helping anything so chill man. voice you opinion but be prepared to have people attacking you opinion and treat the attacks with the most respect. if theres anything that i learned is that screaming, crying, and cursing always loses an arguement.
**** no I'm not relaxing for anyone. I'm not here to be liked either so you can like my name for MEGAS and not like me that means **** to me. |
Regis Mark V
91
|
Posted - 2012.10.02 04:51:00 -
[13] - Quote
Mobius Wyvern wrote:Yeah and this game isn't to far behind MAG. The difference is CCP will have a horrible space subscription based MMO to fall back on. Zipper actually knows how to make a shooter. Also they got closed down because of Socom 4's failure. MAG sold over 1 mil in copies and that's considered good for a new IP in a saturated part of the gaming market.
Oh, so beating on this game isn't enough, you have to start ragging on EVE too? Didn't you use to play EVE? What made you stop, pray tell?[/quote]
Yeah I played it to try it out the game is boring just like Dust. There is nothing fun about it I literally fell asleep playing the game quite a few times. Subbed to it for about a month worst 15 dollars I ever spent.[/quote]
Wait, wait. Why did you buy a subscription instead of using a free-trial? That's kind of what they're for.[/quote]
free trail is only 14 days and I have a friend who basically said that wasn't enough to completely judge the game. He swore to me I would enjoy the game he was wrong |
Regis Mark V
91
|
Posted - 2012.10.02 05:11:00 -
[14] - Quote
Ragna Soul wrote:Regis Mark V wrote:Ragna Soul wrote:Ok after reading this entire thread i see how this got "dumb downed". its all because most of this community cant say anything of value to the game. i'm not saying everyone just the real hardcore haters just because they get killed one or two times they freak out and say the game sucks. its a beta get over it. it improves over time and you may not like what they did but its not like the devs cant just apply a hotfix and balance stuff out. Regis the only thing i like about u is your name (im a huge MEGAS fans) but u need to relax dont take things so hard just like you voice your opinion you're going to have to brunt the people that have different opinions than you. and these insults that are being spit out isnt helping anything so chill man. voice you opinion but be prepared to have people attacking you opinion and treat the attacks with the most respect. if theres anything that i learned is that screaming, crying, and cursing always loses an arguement. **** no I'm not relaxing for anyone. I'm not here to be liked either so you can like my name for MEGAS and not like me that means **** to me. and thats great to hear man but it doesnt matter if you're just spitting out hate instead of having a reasonable debate about what you and everyone else thinks about whats right and wrong with the game. it helps no one when you cant reasonably explain your anger and frustration into a thought where it can help the Devs and explain your reasoning on why you hate that particular thing about the game.
Maybe I'm tired of trying to be reasonable because for 4 builds the game still plays like dirt. Maybe when I tried to be reasonable the **** heads in this forum say stupid **** like adapt or die or biomass your clone and give me your stuff herp derp.
So same to you if you don't like what I have to say or how I say it ignore me! |
Regis Mark V
91
|
Posted - 2012.10.02 05:32:00 -
[15] - Quote
Cortez The Killer wrote:Yeah and this game isn't to far behind MAG. The difference is CCP will have a horrible space subscription based MMO to fall back on. Zipper actually knows how to make a shooter. Also they got closed down because of Socom 4's failure. MAG sold over 1 mil in copies and that's considered good for a new IP in a saturated part of the gaming market.
Oh, so beating on this game isn't enough, you have to start ragging on EVE too? Didn't you use to play EVE? What made you stop, pray tell?[/quote]
Yeah I played it to try it out the game is boring just like Dust. There is nothing fun about it I literally fell asleep playing the game quite a few times. Subbed to it for about a month worst 15 dollars I ever spent.[/quote]
Hah. I look forward to cleaning out your alliance wallet.[/quote]
Hah. Joke will be on you then. Oh wait I'll be playing a better fps where skill is a factor. |
|
|
| |
|