We'll have to see how the new build goes, but to me it looks like leveling happens far too quickly now.

Proto gear should take months, not weeks.

Here are the new base rates for a rank 1 skill:

Level 1 - 6,220 SP
Level 2 - 18,650 SP
Level 3 - 43,530 SP
Level 4 - 87,060 SP
Level 5 - 155,460 SP

Dewie, you a CFC member?

Test Alliance. Enlightened Industries to be exact. Why?

Knew it was something like that.

Just a hunch i got that's all. :D

Another quality post by Deadpool, the voice of reason from the FPS masses, Saviour of lost DCUO players, Destroyer of Clones and Hoarder of "Hot"exotic dancers, Stoner, all around good guy, Chiver.

(I've had too much coffee waiting for the servers to come back up)

As pointed out above, the two games are very different in terms of pacing. While it was necessary to align and cap the skill gain rates to EVE in order to have future compatibility, we don't necessarily need to share the same pacing. We also didn't want to drastically change the pacing we had, so the solution was to make DUST skills cheaper compared to EVE skills in terms of SP. The goal is to have a rewarding progression that lets you feel you can reach new shiny things by playing the game.

A smarter plan would be to add a delay to certain skills becomming available. I.E. don't put the proficiency skill books out for 2 months. Now Proto weapons can't be used. IMHO CCP deciding on the speed technology becomes useable technology. Not sure how that works with EvE ideals however.

Or adding a factor like EvE where it takes time to learn a skill. You put the SP in, but you won't get to USE it for a week? That sorta of thing is far better than putting a cap on.

Is this the result of boosting? Was this planned from the start? It'll make adapting to changing metas very tricky...

Thats not all skills, that's rank one skills.

Those rank 5 skills will still take 5x as much SP as started.

Bye... don't let the LAV door you damaged and repaired for SP hit you on the way out.

As pointed out above, the two games are very different in terms of pacing. While it was necessary to align and cap the skill gain rates to EVE in order to have future compatibility, we don't necessarily need to share the same pacing. We also didn't want to drastically change the pacing we had, so the solution was to make DUST skills cheaper compared to EVE skills in terms of SP. The goal is to have a rewarding progression that lets you feel you can reach new shiny things by playing the game.

Oh god. People are so off track it's ridiculous. All of you please climb off you CoD bashing chairs please.
Counterstrike. Unreal. Quake. There is no levelling up, grinding for stuff/skills. Why do people STILL play these games 15 years after they came out? Game play. The whole, "I don't want to reach endgame too fast" is a joke. No FPS player REALLY cares about the skills or SP. We just want to shoot face. If the gameplay is right, nothing else matters. Not ISK/AUR/SP/SOV. Gameplay and clan mates are what keeps people comming back.

What I'm trying to say is SP should not be the reason to play an FPS... Which for many it seems to be...

Q. I maxed all my skills?!? What do I do?!?!
A. Go kill people

Also one thing about EVE skill progression is that once you have played long enough (+70mil SP or 4-5 years) your skill training times start to become meaningless because by that time you have maximed skills that you need to be successful in your daily activities and have enough to spare so that you don't need to care about how long you train your next skills.

DUST however is still a long way from being diverse enough to make you forget about skill grinding and being happy with skill set you currently have for months to an end.

Stop ******* crying about it like a babby and man up and accept that no amount of you crying on the forums is going to change it.

Just get on with it and stop shitting up threads.


I'm honestly not sure if passive and active SP will be seperate after going over the patch notes again, there's a line in there saying that there is a hard cap so it's possible that your passive SP will stop too.

I wonder if CCP will keep the SP gained from boosters seperate to the SP gained from passive or active SP gain?

Here are the new base rates for a rank 1 skill:

Level 1 - 6,220 SP
Level 2 - 18,650 SP
Level 3 - 43,530 SP
Level 4 - 87,060 SP
Level 5 - 155,460 SP

Oh god. People are so off track it's ridiculous. All of you please climb off you CoD bashing chairs please.
Counterstrike. Unreal. Quake. There is no levelling up, grinding for stuff/skills. Why do people STILL play these games 15 years after they came out? Game play. The whole, "I don't want to reach endgame too fast" is a joke. No FPS player REALLY cares about the skills or SP. We just want to shoot face. If the gameplay is right, nothing else matters. Not ISK/AUR/SP/SOV. Gameplay and clan mates are what keeps people comming back.

What I'm trying to say is SP should not be the reason to play an FPS... Which for many it seems to be...

Q. I maxed all my skills?!? What do I do?!?!
A. Go kill people

Quite right Tony, I've said this too , how many times.

The gameplay in this sucks. I can't see many, if any at all playing this. FPS fans that is, I hardly bother now, neither does anyone else I know. We've done all there is to do so come on end of Nov.

Quite right Tony, I've said this too , how many times.

The gameplay in this sucks. I can't see many, if any at all playing this. FPS fans that is, I hardly bother now, neither does anyone else I know. We've done all there is to do so come on end of Nov.

Funny how you've stopped since you can't abuse mechanics for SP anymore.

yeaaaaaaaa.....................game would just lose a large chunk of its already predicted low playerbase if u can only gain 512K per WEEK.

i said this before and i will continue to say this again cuz like sometimes ppl just dont get it.

What works for EVE wont always translate well into a FPS, there are 2 different games with 2 different communities. Passive SP gain and caps may work in EVE but for a FPS where the majority of ppl play to get new gear and unlock kool stuff and feel generally REWARDED for their time they put in this move will turn ppl off if its gonna be an even longer grind than it currently is.

And to the ppl even disputing this go do some research on the console and FPS community in general because last i checked CCP is trying to attract a DIFFERENT audience that may not be into EVE style play but interested in the universe so this means certain aspects of gameplay would have to be fundamentally different....thats just common sense.

I love the fact, that Cerebral, leader of GOONfeet, doesn't realise why you do it. To troll, and grief and generally arse about. The gameplay literally boils down to camping. Let them walk around the corner and kill em. Certainly don't walk around that corner yourself. You'll die.

Give me strafe speed. Give me gameplay. I don't care about warriors boosting underground Dropships. I care about game play, which is too slow, and far too heavily stacked on defense.