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Dewie Cheecham
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Posted - 2012.09.30 14:34:00 -
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The overall idea is good Cerebral, and I do concur. However we have to take into account that SP cost for the various ranks in DUST is dramatically higher than in EVE.
Have a look at these numbers. They are derived from what I've seen in game, and follow the EVE strategy quite well, except for the base values. A rank 20 for a given level cost 20 time the SP for a rank 1. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApXBj3IzrWnydE5iSWo5MTFMN3NlSjJZTUpFZXlvaGc
Rank one in Dust have the following SP: 10,240 40,960 112,640 256,000 and 512,000
Compare that to EVE, where a rank one skill have the following SP:
250 1,415 8,000 45,255 and 256,000
At level 5 EVE only uses half the SP for a given skill, but Dust has a much steeper entry. |
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Dewie Cheecham
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Posted - 2012.09.30 16:01:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Nice find i'd not thought of comparing EVE and Dust SP costs on skills.
I wonder if they will change SP costs to bring them in line?
They use to be quite low and the SP price's was raised due to the amount of SP people happened to be gaining.
The Dust SP cost per level have been this way at lesat since they opened the Beta after the fanfest, however they have increased the Rank on some skills if I recall.
I do hope they respec the SP and bring it in line with the EVE SP, especially if they plan on lowering the SP gain to something more akin to EVE. |
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Dewie Cheecham
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Posted - 2012.09.30 16:15:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Dewie Cheecham wrote:Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Nice find i'd not thought of comparing EVE and Dust SP costs on skills.
I wonder if they will change SP costs to bring them in line?
They use to be quite low and the SP price's was raised due to the amount of SP people happened to be gaining. The Dust SP cost per level have been this way at lesat since they opened the Beta after the fanfest, however they have increased the Rank on some skills if I recall. I do hope they respec the SP and bring it in line with the EVE SP, especially if they plan on lowering the SP gain to something more akin to EVE. It would be nice to have level 1 skills being filled by capping a single objective or two but keeping the larger skills requiring a month or so of training.
No argument there. It is not an easy balance to strike. Console players want to be rewarded per round, byt both ISK and SP I guess. I hope CCP can crack the nut to everyones satisfaction.
Remember the malcontent when they removed teh 4x SP gain multiplier a few builds ago? Imagine having people suddenly earning only a few hundred SP per battle... :P |
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Dewie Cheecham
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Posted - 2012.09.30 16:38:00 -
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DH STARBURNER420 wrote:Remember ccp stating it will take 7 years to max skills, this is where they plan to put us one day.. 7 years. better then 26 years in eve I guess lol.. but no more 8 mil SP a week.. them days be gone, I'm sure they lower the cap next build too
EVE is a little more than 26 years if I recall. If I recall I tried to start adding them up, I got less than half way and were already well in the twenties. |
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Dewie Cheecham
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Posted - 2012.10.01 17:07:00 -
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CCP Nothin wrote:Here are the new base rates for a rank 1 skill:
Level 1 - 6,220 SP Level 2 - 18,650 SP Level 3 - 43,530 SP Level 4 - 87,060 SP Level 5 - 155,460 SP
What is the Formula used? I love my formulas. |
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Dewie Cheecham
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Posted - 2012.10.01 17:15:00 -
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FYI, I have updated my spreadsheet to reflect the new values from CCP Nothin
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApXBj3IzrWnydE5iSWo5MTFMN3NlSjJZTUpFZXlvaGc |
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Dewie Cheecham
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Posted - 2012.10.01 17:16:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Dewie, you a CFC member?
Test Alliance. Enlightened Industries to be exact. Why? |
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Dewie Cheecham
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Posted - 2012.10.01 17:23:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Dewie Cheecham wrote:Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:Dewie, you a CFC member? Test Alliance. Enlightened Industries to be exact. Why? Knew it was something like that. Just a hunch i got that's all. :D
You mean my incessant ramblings gave me away? :P |
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