Why would you gain less experience? You were still in the battle for the full duration and thus experienced one battle worth of experience. You don't gain less experience for losing a battle, the end result doesn't change your in-game actions.

in my experience when there is a large number of vehicles and snipers on the field farming kills they lose

To get you to play............. You get less because you lost...........Next time you'll try harder.

And how does that mean they're not contributing to the team though? What about the people who aren't sniping or in a vehicle? Why are they the ones that are supposedly contributing to the team if the objectives still aren't being taken when they're available to do so?



Yeah, you'll have to try harder against these other guys that now have more advanced gear since they actually got character progression from winning their game.

I didn't say they get nothing just less............. If you and your team are rubbish and you keep losing............ Tough.

HTFU........... It's a war game......... get better or get out.........

Adapt or Die isn't that the saying.

It doesn't make sense for them to get less SP, though. That's the thing. You both participated in battle, you should both learn the same from your experiences. You don't forget some of it just because your team lost.

I'm fine with ISK having a bonus for winning, but SP should be earned at the same rate regardless of your winning or losing.

Hey I'm fine with getting less if my team loses, It'll just make me try harder next time.

Is all this panicing because you all are really that bad. ?

SP rewards should be left alone, they seem to be working as intended, booster/farmers are irritating, but I imagine they'll stick to carebear highsec matches without FF for boosting.

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Ok, how about same SP, 50% less ISK, no salvage.

the answer to boosting via game play never heard of a merc getting paid for losing .
why should i and my team get paid SP & ISK + salvage for losing a battle badly.?
If the stakes were higher people would be more inclined to play the game as intended.
losers should feel the pain of losing not get rewarded for it.
this won't fix everything but will go a long way.

get the game play going ccp

an open ended letter to everyone advocating this.

I'd like to see you stay financially solvent... currently if you win or lose you get (my average, yours may vary) 150,000 ISK. I
probably spend 100,000 on equipment alone, which leaves a net profit of 50,000 ISK. now lets say you earn 0 ISK if you lose.
that means that in ORDER TO BREAK EVEN, no profit what-so-ever, you have to win 50% of your matches. that doesn't sound too bad at first but think about it, lets say you win 3 out of 4 matches (75%, well over the necessary profit) that's 50,000 ISK profit. okay, 50,000 ISK profit for 4 matches work, each match lasts about 12 minutes so 4 matches take 48 minutes, that's 62500 ISK an hour. now lets say you want a tank, a nice one, that's around 1.6 mill at our current rate getting a nice tank will take 25.6 hours that is over one day.does that sound reasonable to you? this isn't COD, lets use our thinker box on occasion, please?

lol........ more tears, mop bucket full.

lol........ more tears, mop bucket full.

I like how rational discourse and providing examples is somehow crying in your mind. You realize that just by screaming everyone's QQing or bad doesn't instantly make your stance valid, right?

I was following what he said until he got to, "you want a tank, a nice one.." SIGH I want my Phoenix to rain death down onto his nice tank, now.. A whole days work for godmode? That seems excessive..

Before you say it is more than one day, remember, not for everyone.. Some people have nothing better to do..

Ok.... 25% less SP

50% less ISK

You can keep the salvage.