Please tell me how two people, each on different teams, doing the same thing, should get different SP?

If merc A kills 10 people, dies 5 times and caps 2 objectives

And merc B kills 10 people, dies 5 times and caps 2 objectives, did they not both gain the same experiance? Just because merc A's TEAM won doesn't give him more SP, than merc B, they did the same and should be awarded the same SP.

Now isk should be payed to the loser cause they did something and shouldnt get nothing in return but it should be significantly less than the winners isk reward.

On the salvage, this alone should go to the winners. "To the winners go the spoils" this has been true through out time, no losing force on a battlefield was ever allowed to have the spoils of war after a defeat. This should be the same in New Eden.

I agree on the salvage. You lose because you're either out of clones or your MCC was destroyed. Thinking in game terms if you're out of clones who is it that's collecting the salvage? If your MCC is destroyed how are you able to carry off the salvage? I also agree on the SP point. It's experience and should be simply based on how you perform in the game and what you achieve. SK should be a set amount, but maybe the employer pays a bonus to the winning team or the best performing team members afterwards? I'd rather see something along those lines where the rewards for winning are increased rather than the rewards for losing being decreased or taken away. Soon enough losing teams won't even be able to restock after a losiing battle if it went that way.

erm hello team based game not one man army. together we stand divided we fall every one should pull together. but no just keep thinking about your own ass is fine

erm hello team based game not one man army. together we stand divided we fall every one should pull together. but no just keep thinking about your own ass is fine

You really just don't get it do you? If this blather made any sense, then please explain why throughout the history of firearms and waging war, has the sniper been considered one of the most valuable assets on the field? Please go do some research and then please go tell a real sniper - who happens to save MANY friendlies daily that he is useless to his brothers. Not everyone is a 'run-n-gun' type of soldier! This is NOT just a run around and jump around and shoot kind of game. Nor should that be the mentality of anyone who is actually going to eventually do well at this game once all the kinks are worked out. It's cool if you don't like it, but don't accuse people of being useless when the only useless part of this thread is the OP.

And, again, go do some research on the topic.

You really just don't get it do you? If this blather made any sense, then please explain why throughout the history of firearms and waging war, has the sniper been considered one of the most valuable assets on the field? Please go do some research and then please go tell a real sniper - who happens to save MANY friendlies daily that he is useless to his brothers. Not everyone is a 'run-n-gun' type of soldier! This is NOT just a run around and jump around and shoot kind of game. Nor should that be the mentality of anyone who is actually going to eventually do well at this game once all the kinks are worked out. It's cool if you don't like it, but don't accuse people of being useless when the only useless part of this thread is the OP.

And, again, go do some research on the topic.

You really just don't get it do you? If this blather made any sense, then please explain why throughout the history of firearms and waging war, has the sniper been considered one of the most valuable assets on the field? Please go do some research and then please go tell a real sniper - who happens to save MANY friendlies daily that he is useless to his brothers. Not everyone is a 'run-n-gun' type of soldier! This is NOT just a run around and jump around and shoot kind of game. Nor should that be the mentality of anyone who is actually going to eventually do well at this game once all the kinks are worked out. It's cool if you don't like it, but don't accuse people of being useless when the only useless part of this thread is the OP.

And, again, go do some research on the topic.

Why are we trying to get snipers and tank drivers and everyone down into the battle? You do realize everyone doesn't play assault right? Everyone has a different view on classes that take skill vs. classes that don't. Personally, I don't think playing assault takes skill, let me spray a wall of bullets at you, not really aiming, not really caring, until you die because I just held the trigger down for the last 15 seconds. I don't want to play that way, if that is what the game becomes Ill gladly go play something else. So saying to make losing hurt more to get snipers to not play a sniper role, or tank drivers to not drive a vehicle is BULLSHIT. Everyone may not want to play like you.

Dave,

This is a great idea. I've certainly never paid anyone for a job not done.

This would stop all the useless snipers, vehicle idiots etc. And make people play to win or else get nothing or very much less.

Anyone not good with this knows they're useless to their team or simply should go play COD or EVE.

Says the warriors, the biggest boosters in the game. Lmfao. Good fun +1

Firstly this aint real life it's a video game.

Second 95 % of snipers are useless to their team on every game I've ever played.

Ding ding, hopping off your bus.

Dave,

This is a great idea. I've certainly never paid anyone for a job not done.

This would stop all the useless snipers, vehicle idiots etc. And make people play to win or else get nothing or very much less.

Anyone not good with this knows they're useless to their team or simply should go play COD or EVE.

Firstly this aint real life it's a video game.

Second 95 % of snipers are useless to their team on every game I've ever played.

Ding ding, hopping off your bus.

the answer to boosting via game play never heard of a merc getting paid for losing .
why should i and my team get paid SP & ISK + salvage for losing a battle badly.?
If the stakes were higher people would be more inclined to play the game as intended.
losers should feel the pain of losing not get rewarded for it.
this won't fix everything but will go a long way.

get the game play going ccp

rofl, this is funny considering played Warriors other day in ambush and all you/they tried to do is SP farm and LOST and died quite a bit . But i bet you still made SP & ISK (and that isnt the only time you've done that) , so not sure how you can justify saying this. But whatever, to each their own

the answer to boosting via game play never heard of a merc getting paid for losing .
why should i and my team get paid SP & ISK + salvage for losing a battle badly.?
If the stakes were higher people would be more inclined to play the game as intended.
losers should feel the pain of losing not get rewarded for it.
this won't fix everything but will go a long way.

get the game play going ccp

the answer to boosting via game play never heard of a merc getting paid for losing .
why should i and my team get paid SP & ISK + salvage for losing a battle badly.?
If the stakes were higher people would be more inclined to play the game as intended.
losers should feel the pain of losing not get rewarded for it.
this won't fix everything but will go a long way.

get the game play going ccp

HELL NO!!!!!!!!
In case I was unclear.
YOU are one of THOSE that stay at the SPAWN all game and are uselessly farming SP as the rest of us try to win.
Wheres the ICON for really MAD at glitchers like you.!!

LOL, could you imagine telling a real life merc that you didn't like the way he did his job so your not paying? i imagine the next thing you hear is the sound of a weapon being drawn.