It's an insanely situational weapon though, unlike the tank. AV grenades ONLY work on vehicles. Tanks work against everything.

the AV people preached about how there should never be one and now that they have it they don't say anything but nonsensical remarks. when i mean i win here is a story: i drive up in a madrugar and shoot some people. i can't retreat because of an OP railgun instalation so im forced forwards. some one comes up behind me and spams all three nades at me and im dead. no way to turn in time and no way to escape in time. although i admit that i only paid 3 mil for it i used 4 damage reductions so it shouldn't of died that quickly from a 1000 isk(around that much) weapon

Dude. Your other thread just got locked. Give it up already, you HAD a win button as a tank driver, now you DON'T HAVE a win button as a tank driver, get over it.

OP railgun instalation

Thing is, you can't just start complaining after one bad situation. I played a lot of matches today, and I'm fine with tanks now.

Exact same face I made.

I kinda figured since installations are non mobile defensive emplacements, they're kinda supposed to be freakishly strong. Besides, 3-4 shots from a Standard tank railgun will destroy any weapon emplacement...they're easy to deal with as long as you don't go charging at them like an idiot.

the AV people preached about how there should never be one and now that they have it they don't say anything but nonsensical remarks. when i mean i win here is a story: i drive up in a madrugar and shoot some people. i can't retreat because of an OP railgun instalation so im forced forwards. some one comes up behind me and spams all three nades at me and im dead. no way to turn in time and no way to escape in time. although i admit that i only paid 3 mil for it i used 4 damage reductions so it shouldn't of died that quickly from a 1000 isk(around that much) weapon

i had a blaster, it was out of range and also im pretty sure they have a proto level turret that shouldn't be accesable by just any one

i highly doubt it that this is the end of the line in terms of vehicle/AV balance. What we experience is total extremes before we had very strong tanks now we have extreme effective AV weapons. Dont you guys get it? CCP wants that we play in a certain way. If your tank gets allmost instantly blowed then CCP doesnt want that you "test" tanks and focus more on infantry. In my opinion we will see something combined like good Av weapons vs good tanks. Well im gonna see how it is in the next build.

Wait.

So, you called in a tank when you knew anti armor defense systems were still in place, and decided to engage in an area covered by them anyways.

Then you lost your tank between the railgun and enough time to be hit by 3 AV grenades without you or your gunner taking that guy out.

And that makes tanks UP?

Did I get that right?

no, you didn't. i healed up before going forwards to sheild my allies from 3 assault people. my allies were retards and couldn't handle one enemy so then, not knowing there were any enemies behind me some one came with av nades and droped me from 100% to 0%. also i didn't see anyone prior to this so i didn't have a chance to get a gunner.

no, you didn't. i healed up before going forwards to sheild my allies from 3 assault people. my allies were retards and couldn't handle one enemy so then, not knowing there were any enemies behind me some one came with av nades and droped me from 100% to 0%. also i didn't see anyone prior to this so i didn't have a chance to get a gunner.

So basically, you rolled up in a bad position, with enemies in the back and front.. with no infantry covering your ass and you expected to survive?

Dumb **** right there.

The i win button is sniper rifles now

I thought it was Cavity grenades?

Then that is your teams fault. Do not blame the AV weapons because your team went full ****** on you and left you in the ****.
Instead, why didn't you just hang back? I tell you, theres been so many times I've had a tank supporting me, I've been engaged by a player (and just to clarify, I'm a **** shot who spends most of his time repairing or flying) and that Tank has just rolled on ahead leaving me to get annihilated, then gets done in himself because I wasn't there to help repair. He may well of seen a group of people charging towards us and wanted to "shield" me from the enemy, but it clearly didn't help me right there and in the end, didn't help him.

I thought it was Cavity grenades?