My poor little tanky wankys lost their god mode, aww shame. This is supposed to be a FPS game idiots, don't like it, can't FPS, two choices, HTFU, or go play WOT. I have zero sympathy that you can no longer go 40 for 0 in your talentless tin cans and look forward to owning everyone of you I see.

For the sake of clarification for those with short memories, the first whiners to get their way were the tank drivers.

Anyway, what the devs are doing is see-saw balance. What they do is they balance too far in one direction to make the stats clearer in a shorter period of time - then they what's dieing too fast and what's living too long and dial in the balance.
I've never personally been happy with the results of this "technique", but it's what you do when you're strapped for time and someone wants numbers to whack off to.

I feel they need to think in a less linear fashion and focus more on the FPS core that is infantry then bring vehicles in as a way to enhance that interaction. Branch out from there instead of trying to force a balance between what is essentially two completely different games. LAV's and Dropships seem to fit fine, mostly due to the fact that they enhance the FPS by supplying an alternative means of transport in these massive maps.
Tanks however do nothing to enhance the core FPS, they're either some game rule defying behemoth or a bonus target to justify the SP sunk into AV.

At the FPS level, I would like to see them as a sort of prestige item that helps a team farm WP while providing mobile fire support/area denial, the tip of the spear in a siege on an area well protected by installations, and be the, well... be the Tank in the TPS vehicular scheme.

I say let the tank drivers bore themselves to death. Eventually many of them will probably quit playing Dust because rolling around in a tank all day getting easy kills is a sad, boring existence and they'll probably get sick of it. The result is they'd want to start fighting on the ground @ the front line...but with little to no experience doing so they'll get slaughtered because they don't know how to get a kill on foot (probably still have aim assist on). Final result: Bored tanker + pissed off foot soldier = rage quit the game because its free.

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do you need 5000000000000 people to say this patch was over kill or you all just going too let it go ccp plz fix your bad fix

That right there is what I think this is really about... Most players inability to pull that off. Tanks were the Super Heavy Suit that you had to spec into if you wanted to pull down those massive kills if you suck. Now teamwork can really shine and that puts a wet blanket over a lot of people's parties.

CCP isn't done tweaking this, obviously, but in the mean time we will hear QQing forever because some gamers just can't admit that they just aren't that good, they lack the inability to not go full R-Tard when something makes them upset, and they can't look at the problem objectively and say to themselves, "How can we make this better?"

We share a world with all kinds of people and as we all know, babies cry the loudest.

It wasnt a bad fix, it's a step in the right direction, along with Turrets being used by players and not the driver and Dropships getting a HP buff.

Once Ewar is in that will make a tank a force multiplier and you'll notice a huge difference.

For the sake of clarification for those with short memories, the first whiners to get their way were the tank drivers.

On the 28th day CCP said "let there be light" and burning tanks shone bright in every corner of dust.
On the 29th day there was rage. And CCP saw that it was good.

Just use militia tanks you fools... They're cheap and good! Then you can actually get good...

I have an answer for that. But I'm not going to tell you. While I hate DUST at the moment, I don't want to get the ban my answer would so richly deserve.

In case you didn't read what I said. I just DID!

And no, not dealing with it, tanks had bugs that needed fixing, true, this hypernerf is far too much, and FAR too aggressive.

A wonderful attitude you have there.

In all fairness, most tank players I have seen are like fish out of water when they are outside of their tanks. Pretty much useless to the team and depleting clone reserves.

because dropsuit EHP nerf + AV -20% nerf was not "FAR too aggressive."

We put up with that for WEEKS, surely you can return the favour, or is that too big an ask now that you can actually die from a Reasonable amount of damage actually you know... DAMAGING you.

1. I never supported that nerf, I have no idea why they did it, so don't put blame on me for it.

2. That is probably the most idiotic thing I've seen today. I feel more stupid for having just read it. The answer to a bad nerf is reverse the nerf and punish the other side because of it for a while?

SOME tank modules had issues/bugs, the tanks themselves were plenty easy to kill had it not been for that bug. No way should militia gear be able to solo kill a 1-2M isk tank, that is where we are now, and that is so much worse than the AV nerf, which they have more or less reversed now, haven't they?

Well that's harsh.........