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Dewie Cheecham wrote:

Billi Gene wrote:

Dewie Cheecham wrote:

DUST Fiend wrote:

Deal with it and provide feedback.

In case you didn't read what I said. I just DID!

And no, not dealing with it, tanks had bugs that needed fixing, true, this hypernerf is far too much, and FAR too aggressive.

because dropsuit EHP nerf + AV -20% nerf was not "FAR too aggressive."

We put up with that for WEEKS, surely you can return the favour, or is that too big an ask now that you can actually die from a Reasonable amount of damage actually you know... DAMAGING you.

1. I never supported that nerf, I have no idea why they did it, so don't put blame on me for it.

2. That is probably the most idiotic thing I've seen today. I feel more stupid for having just read it. The answer to a bad nerf is reverse the nerf and punish the other side because of it for a while?

SOME tank modules had issues/bugs, the tanks themselves were plenty easy to kill had it not been for that bug. No way should militia gear be able to solo kill a 1-2M isk tank, that is where we are now, and that is so much worse than the AV nerf, which they have more or less reversed now, haven't they?


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Billi Gene Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 130	Posted - 2012.09.16 06:39:00 - [1] - Quote Dewie Cheecham wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Deal with it and provide feedback. In case you didn't read what I said. I just DID! And no, not dealing with it, tanks had bugs that needed fixing, true, this hypernerf is far too much, and FAR too aggressive. because dropsuit EHP nerf + AV -20% nerf was not "FAR too aggressive." We put up with that for WEEKS, surely you can return the favour, or is that too big an ask now that you can actually die from a Reasonable amount of damage actually you know... DAMAGING you. There is a reset with the next build as far as we all know, so I wouldn't sweat over isk or sp till after that. We've gone from infantry EHP nerf + AV -20% damage nerf, to Tank EHP nerf +AV un-nerf of -20% damage nerf. The drop suit EHP nerf is still in place. I did my best to try to counter tanks during the AV nerf, sure I wasnt a great AV most of the time, but i tired and tired, because frankly the God Mode tanks really annoyed my sense of fairness. I can't ask you to do the same really, but i can ask that you empathise with your fellow Testers, for all the hurt you've been dishing out this build, up till this most recent hotfix. We've put up with you spamming tanks on every map, and wiping the floor with us. Telling us to "man up, "harden up and any other casual quips you decided to throw out there. It's easy to throw casual comments, but the true test of character is a persons actions. Now is your chance to "man up" or 'Harden up" or even..."team up", or any of the other things you may or may not have said, but certainly Were Said, during the AV nerf. And for what its worth, the next build will come sooner then the how long infantry had to wait for this anti tank hotfix.
Billi Gene Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 130	Posted - 2012.09.16 09:47:00 - [2] - Quote Dewie Cheecham wrote: Billi Gene wrote: Dewie Cheecham wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Deal with it and provide feedback. In case you didn't read what I said. I just DID! And no, not dealing with it, tanks had bugs that needed fixing, true, this hypernerf is far too much, and FAR too aggressive. because dropsuit EHP nerf + AV -20% nerf was not "FAR too aggressive." We put up with that for WEEKS, surely you can return the favour, or is that too big an ask now that you can actually die from a Reasonable amount of damage actually you know... DAMAGING you. 1. I never supported that nerf, I have no idea why they did it, so don't put blame on me for it. 2. That is probably the most idiotic thing I've seen today. I feel more stupid for having just read it. The answer to a bad nerf is reverse the nerf and punish the other side because of it for a while? SOME tank modules had issues/bugs, the tanks themselves were plenty easy to kill had it not been for that bug. No way should militia gear be able to solo kill a 1-2M isk tank, that is where we are now, and that is so much worse than the AV nerf, which they have more or less reversed now, haven't they? 1. you should try reading this entire thread... on page two someone kindly pointed out that tanks were dying too easily, and that tank drivers were asking for a fix. Which is why AV got the temp nerf.... to get numbers..... raw data. now ccp are getting numbers from the other end of the spectrum, they've shifted the goal posts, they want skewed numbers to match the first set, so they can compare and arrive at a new relative point to shift to. 2. read above, You may find it idiotic, but i'd remind you, this is a Beta Test, we are here to provide feedback and data. So while you may like to think you feel stupid for reading it, allow me to paraphrase you, "don't put the blame on me for it." as to your last point... can i just say that I'm sick of hearing that crap? it doesn't matter what tier or name either the suit or the gear belongs to. Its about NUMBERS. By numbers you can take it as troop strength, or as fittings strengths. give us numbers... how much resist are you stacking?.... we arent entirely sure about baseline shield/armor resists, but it isnt too hard to figure out what is going on even then... are you saying you've lost a tier 1 or tier 2 tank to a solo militia swarm?....with or without AV grenades? how much shield were you stacking? armor? did you have a Repair module fitted? just claiming the loch ness monster exists doesnt prove that it does.