MAG is the best game ever made, so I believe Dust should be more like MAG in terms of FPS gameplay, comms, platoon structure, and scale. Only then would this game sucseed in replacing our beloved game. LONG LIVE MAG! MAY DUST FILL THE VOID LEFT BY MAG IN OUR LIVES!

Yes I know this is QQ inducing, we need some anyways to stay healthy, the STB threads arent doing it anymore.

stopped reading after there
as someone who played MAG alot i can tell u MAG is highly overrated, has no clan support....NO zerg deploy is NOT clan support....clan wars is. Maps were linear.......yes they were, break down how u approached each map and realised it was either left right or the dumbass route aka the middle. Dom wasnt epic like it was made out to be infact the entire game minus the INT and ESC are basically 32v32x 2 or x4 depending if ur playing ACQ or DOM

its a casual pubstar game.

where's the raging, angry flame posts at?

did you ever wonder why mag stopped being popular . and is now a dying game . don't model your game after a something that failed. that said bigger squads and faster cash and sp earn would be nice.

MAG was a great game. You as someone who admittedly played many hundreds of hours, can't deny that. (you wouldn't have played so much if it wasn't good)

That said, it DEF had it's flaws. However the good outweighed the bad, and a game like Dust should def take a look at MAG. Use elements that MAG got right, and avoid the mistakes that zipper made with their game.

I agree that the 128v128 and 64v64 were really just 32v32 x 4 and x2.... for the most part. (you could actually interact with the other 32v32 groups though) This aspect was overrated and not what made MAG great. It was the diversity of different objectives in battle, the proxy chat, and good comms system, the community, the rpg elements with the skill trees, all that individually were small things, but collectively made it a great game.

In terms of linearity of the maps...I agree, they were linear. However, this was a good thing. Sabo, Acq, and Dom were fairly linear, BUT this is what forced the action. You didn't have that many lows, it forced gun fights and action...where as with Dust's more open maps, there are plenty of times where you're looking for something to do, or someone to kill. Although in fairness, MAG had this with Interdiction and Escalation. They were more "open" but also had less action than the other modes. This has actually been one of my criticisms of Dust. It either needs a few more players than it currently has for each given map OR some maps that are a LITTLE more linear, to push the action more.

Edit: My point is... "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"

MAG was a great game. You as someone who admittedly played many hundreds of hours, can't deny that. (you wouldn't have played so much if it wasn't good)

That said, it DEF had it's flaws. However the good outweighed the bad, and a game like Dust should def take a look at MAG. Use elements that MAG got right, and avoid the mistakes that zipper made with their game.

I agree that the 128v128 and 64v64 were really just 32v32 x 4 and x2.... for the most part. (you could actually interact with the other 32v32 groups though) This aspect was overrated and not what made MAG great. It was the diversity of different objectives in battle, the proxy chat, and good comms system, the community, the rpg elements with the skill trees, all that individually were small things, but collectively made it a great game.

In terms of linearity of the maps...I agree, they were linear. However, this was a good thing. Sabo, Acq, and Dom were fairly linear, BUT this is what forced the action. You didn't have that many lows, it forced gun fights and action...where as with Dust's more open maps, there are plenty of times where you're looking for something to do, or someone to kill. Although in fairness, MAG had this with Interdiction and Escalation. They were more "open" but also had less action than the other modes. This has actually been one of my criticisms of Dust. It either needs a few more players than it currently has for each given map OR some maps that are a LITTLE more linear, to push the action more.

Edit: My point is... "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"

This is what Dust is lacking is MAG = Massive Action Game. There should be an objective that forces people to be in the objective.

In MAG:
1. Objectives double your points
2. Frago'd objectives double your points
3. Medic is rewarded because it gives points
4. Repair kits is always present, it gives double points for repairing an asset if frago'd
5. MVP is based on players who does more teamwork gameplay rather than just camping for kills. Teamwork gameplay like fighting near the objective, healing players, reviving players, repairing assets, etc.
6. At the end of a game, you get awarded for medals such as engineering, medic, screaming eagle, mvp, purple ribbons, grim reapers, etc. This shows your profile to let others knows what you do in the field. If you see someone has a lot of medic awards, heck...I'll get this guy in the group. Or...this guy has good KDR, but doesn't have repair medals, medic awards, and he has only a sniper medal specialist, this tell you that this guy must have been sniping all the time.

Dust is good, but it's lacking something. Dust is becoming like a farm fest for ISK and just leveling up. When I'm at MAG, I care a lot for winning. When I'm at Dust, who cares If I lose or win, I don't judge your ambition, I'm just here of what you can afford. You can pay the right price, I'm in.

MAG is the shiznits. Enjoyed every bit of that game for years. I hope to see Dust have 256 players or more in a battle at once without lag of course. I know CCP can do it. Will take time.

CCP should absorb all the positives of MAG and combine it with the new stuff and if executed properly, will create the best game ever made.

MAG is broke as **** bro, from people exploiting glitches in every map to the lag which has created the phrase "MAG rhymes with lag for a reason". It's playable, but it's on it's last breath and CCP is thankfully doing everything to put the poor thing out of it's misery by pandering to and usurping almost the entirety of it's remaining playerbase.

Dust 514 was NEVER meant to be anything like MAG in the long run and should NEVER become anything like MAG. GTFO and play something else if you want to play a game like MAG. Dust is meant to be a full-scale MMOFPS that directly links to the Eve universe.

Dust 514 was NEVER meant to be anything like MAG in the long run and should NEVER become anything like MAG. GTFO and play something else if you want to play a game like MAG. Dust is meant to be a full-scale MMOFPS that directly links to the Eve universe.

I love these kinds of GTFO posts.

Keyword: "Meant".

It plays nothing like an MMO. It's a 12v12 FPS with some RPG elements. At present, it's no deeper than anything else on the market.