DUST Search - Why Dust should be like MAG(Discuss)

TotalBreakage wrote:

Deadly Mitauchi wrote:

Sleepy Zan wrote:

where's the raging, angry flame posts at?

No one cares about MAG anymore except those who really can't play any other FPS.

You're insulting KEQ.

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What makes MAG great.

1. Proximity chat
2. 256 players, but it's structured to 32 vs 32. On Escalation is 32 vs 32 vs 32.
3. Constant feeling of adrenaline rush
4. Game modes are unique, such as Acquisition, Domination, Escalation, Interdiction, and Sabotage.
5. Platoon structure
6. Clan deploy
7. Airstrikes like Precision, Bombardment, Straffing run,
8. Repair kits and Med kits has a purpose.

What makes Dust different from MAG

1. UVT voice chat
2. Local chat room to talk with EVE players
3. Massive vehicle warfare if every player has enough ISK to duke it out
4. You can create many loadouts for every situation in a battle
5. Skill trees can take 7 years to complete
6. So far, I heard the scale is going to be 24 vs 24 per district battle, but there are numerous battle is happening in one planet simultaneously
7. Variety of MAPS
8. Contracts
9. Player vs Environment. You'll be fighting a lot of drones.
10. Corporation battles
11. You can sell your Aur items for ISK
12. Free to download

Edit: If only Dust and MAG are combined all together.

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TotalBreakage Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 410	Posted - 2012.09.11 15:09:00 - [1] - Quote MAG is the best game ever made, so I believe Dust should be more like MAG in terms of FPS gameplay, comms, platoon structure, and scale. Only then would this game sucseed in replacing our beloved game. LONG LIVE MAG! MAY DUST FILL THE VOID LEFT BY MAG IN OUR LIVES! Yes I know this is QQ inducing, we need some anyways to stay healthy, the STB threads arent doing it anymore.
Lixet The Craniac Naloran Project 50	Posted - 2012.09.11 15:11:00 - [2] - Quote Even though MAG is still playable at the moment :]
Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2047	Posted - 2012.09.11 15:14:00 - [3] - Quote where's the raging, angry flame posts at?
TotalBreakage Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 410	Posted - 2012.09.11 15:15:00 - [4] - Quote Lixet wrote: Even though MAG is still playable at the moment :] It is but not on the same level that it used to be. But like I said in another thread, even the current low player count version of MAG is still way more enjoyable than Dust. Back in MAG's heyday was an amazing time to be playing MAG. Hands down my favorite video game of all time.
Wolf Ritter vonKaldari Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 97	Posted - 2012.09.11 15:16:00 - [5] - Quote Lixet wrote: Even though MAG is still playable at the moment :] MAG is broke as **** bro, from people exploiting glitches in every map to the lag which has created the phrase "MAG rhymes with lag for a reason". It's playable, but it's on it's last breath and CCP is thankfully doing everything to put the poor thing out of it's misery by pandering to and usurping almost the entirety of it's remaining playerbase.
Leither Yiltron KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 417	Posted - 2012.09.11 15:16:00 - [6] - Quote Gay game Xbox rules. Edit: It's sad that I feel the need to point this out, but this may or may not be an ironic joke.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 583	Posted - 2012.09.11 15:18:00 - [7] - Quote facepalm And here I thought we were past all of this crap. I predict a kittenstorm incoming to this thread.
TiMeSpLiT--TeR Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 326	Posted - 2012.09.11 15:18:00 - [8] - Quote TotalBreakage wrote: MAG is the best game ever made, so I believe Dust should be more like MAG in terms of FPS gameplay, comms, platoon structure, and scale. Only then would this game sucseed in replacing our beloved game. LONG LIVE MAG! MAY DUST FILL THE VOID LEFT BY MAG IN OUR LIVES! Yes I know this is QQ inducing, we need some anyways to stay healthy, the STB threads arent doing it anymore. I hate saying this, but I love MAG. Dust shouldn't be more like MAG, but it should be better than MAG. This is EVE universe, and we should play the rules of EVE.
drake sadani Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 42	Posted - 2012.09.11 15:19:00 - [9] - Quote did you ever wonder why mag stopped being popular . and is now a dying game . don't model your game after a something that failed. that said bigger squads and faster cash and sp earn would be nice.
TotalBreakage Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 410	Posted - 2012.09.11 15:20:00 - [10] - Quote CCP should absorb all the positives of MAG and combine it with the new stuff and if executed properly, will create the best game ever made.

Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2047	Posted - 2012.09.11 15:20:00 - [11] - Quote Oh there they are
Deskalkulos Ildigan CrimeWave Syndicate 115	Posted - 2012.09.11 15:23:00 - [12] - Quote wait mag is still running so theres no need to fill a void, or did i miss something awfully? Personally i think that Mag and Dust are too different to fill the void the other game left, and i do think that they would be better off making MAG-2 or make a major patch to mag to introduce aircrafts.
TotalBreakage Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 410	Posted - 2012.09.11 15:23:00 - [13] - Quote TiMeSpLiT--TeR wrote: TotalBreakage wrote: MAG is the best game ever made, so I believe Dust should be more like MAG in terms of FPS gameplay, comms, platoon structure, and scale. Only then would this game sucseed in replacing our beloved game. LONG LIVE MAG! MAY DUST FILL THE VOID LEFT BY MAG IN OUR LIVES! Yes I know this is QQ inducing, we need some anyways to stay healthy, the STB threads arent doing it anymore. I hate saying this, but I love MAG. Dust shouldn't be more like MAG, but it should be better than MAG. This is EVE universe, and we should play the rules of EVE. lol, dont be ashamed to love MAG just because the community looks down upon it. We know we love MAG, and if we dont stand by this we might never be able to experience the type of epic gameplay MAG brought for us.
DUST Fiend Immobile Infantry 1903	Posted - 2012.09.11 15:24:00 - [14] - Quote Cuz nothing says skill like shooting people while they're parachuting in, right?
J0hlss0n Doomheim 30	Posted - 2012.09.11 15:25:00 - [15] - Quote Sleepy Zan wrote: where's the raging, angry flame posts at? Mention something positive about MAG and they shall appear. =P On the subject, yes, I wish more elements of MAG to appear in Dust, not needed to "be a new" MAG, but absorbing the fun level that MAG had would be a awesome addition to Dust, as of now, the beta isn't making me wish to play it as much as, for an example, MAG did (and still does on some levels) back in the days, but I hope it'll grow.
TotalBreakage Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 410	Posted - 2012.09.11 15:26:00 - [16] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Cuz nothing says skill like shooting people while they're parachuting in, right? Lol, inertdampasniping might be slightly harder than parasniping.
Beld Errmon Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 479	Posted - 2012.09.11 15:32:00 - [17] - Quote Don't know anything about MAG, other then seeing the game in the bargain bin at the local games retailer, If the conduct of its players in dust is anything to go by, I hope dust is nothing like it and the players from it quickly seek out another game or stop acting like douche bags, as an alternative they could also choke on a kitten and die.
Deadly Mitauchi SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION 140	Posted - 2012.09.11 15:35:00 - [18] - Quote Sleepy Zan wrote: where's the raging, angry flame posts at? No one cares about MAG anymore except those who really can't play any other FPS.
TotalBreakage Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 410	Posted - 2012.09.11 15:39:00 - [19] - Quote Deadly Mitauchi wrote: Sleepy Zan wrote: where's the raging, angry flame posts at? No one cares about MAG anymore except those who really can't play any other FPS. You're insulting KEQ.
Thomas Canalejo 69	Posted - 2012.09.11 15:42:00 - [20] - Quote lol MAG was in no way a good game Zipper dose not keep up on there games at all sofar just from beta I think dust is a way better game . ccp dont make this game like mag .

TiMeSpLiT--TeR Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 326	Posted - 2012.09.11 15:43:00 - [21] - Quote TotalBreakage wrote: TiMeSpLiT--TeR wrote: TotalBreakage wrote: MAG is the best game ever made, so I believe Dust should be more like MAG in terms of FPS gameplay, comms, platoon structure, and scale. Only then would this game sucseed in replacing our beloved game. LONG LIVE MAG! MAY DUST FILL THE VOID LEFT BY MAG IN OUR LIVES! Yes I know this is QQ inducing, we need some anyways to stay healthy, the STB threads arent doing it anymore. I hate saying this, but I love MAG. Dust shouldn't be more like MAG, but it should be better than MAG. This is EVE universe, and we should play the rules of EVE. lol, dont be ashamed to love MAG just because the community looks down upon it. We know we love MAG, and if we dont stand by this we might never be able to experience the type of epic gameplay MAG brought for us. What makes MAG great. 1. Proximity chat 2. 256 players, but it's structured to 32 vs 32. On Escalation is 32 vs 32 vs 32. 3. Constant feeling of adrenaline rush 4. Game modes are unique, such as Acquisition, Domination, Escalation, Interdiction, and Sabotage. 5. Platoon structure 6. Clan deploy 7. Airstrikes like Precision, Bombardment, Straffing run, 8. Repair kits and Med kits has a purpose. What makes Dust different from MAG 1. UVT voice chat 2. Local chat room to talk with EVE players 3. Massive vehicle warfare if every player has enough ISK to duke it out 4. You can create many loadouts for every situation in a battle 5. Skill trees can take 7 years to complete 6. So far, I heard the scale is going to be 24 vs 24 per district battle, but there are numerous battle is happening in one planet simultaneously 7. Variety of MAPS 8. Contracts 9. Player vs Environment. You'll be fighting a lot of drones. 10. Corporation battles 11. You can sell your Aur items for ISK 12. Free to download Edit: If only Dust and MAG are combined all together.
The Warbot Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 85	Posted - 2012.09.11 16:00:00 - [22] - Quote MAG is the shiznits. Enjoyed every bit of that game for years. I hope to see Dust have 256 players or more in a battle at once without lag of course. I know CCP can do it. Will take time.
RolyatDerTeufel D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 1648	Posted - 2012.09.11 16:21:00 - [23] - Quote TotalBreakage wrote: Deadly Mitauchi wrote: Sleepy Zan wrote: where's the raging, angry flame posts at? No one cares about MAG anymore except those who really can't play any other FPS. You're insulting KEQ. Like we dont throw insults for everyone in the alliance in comms from time to time We've all pretty much played together for the past couple of years because of the history (most) of us have with MAG, but I do not believe in any way, Dust 514 should be like MAG. Quote: What makes MAG great. 1. Proximity chat 2. 256 players, but it's structured to 32 vs 32. On Escalation is 32 vs 32 vs 32. 3. Constant feeling of adrenaline rush 4. Game modes are unique, such as Acquisition, Domination, Escalation, Interdiction, and Sabotage. 5. Platoon structure 6. Clan deploy 7. Airstrikes like Precision, Bombardment, Straffing run, 8. Repair kits and Med kits has a purpose. What makes Dust different from MAG 1. UVT voice chat 2. Local chat room to talk with EVE players 3. Massive vehicle warfare if every player has enough ISK to duke it out 4. You can create many loadouts for every situation in a battle 5. Skill trees can take 7 years to complete 6. So far, I heard the scale is going to be 24 vs 24 per district battle, but there are numerous battle is happening in one planet simultaneously 7. Variety of MAPS 8. Contracts 9. Player vs Environment. You'll be fighting a lot of drones. 10. Corporation battles 11. You can sell your Aur items for ISK 12. Free to download Edit: If only Dust and MAG are combined all together. game modes weren't really all that unique tbh. it's pretty much the same thing in all of them, run forward and capture points. Hopefully Conquest on a district with a player MCC would allow for alot of creativity for attacking and defending the district. And be more engaging cause of the defensive points of the enemy. Repair tools and Injectors are working right now
Leither Yiltron KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 417	Posted - 2012.09.11 16:27:00 - [24] - Quote This topic comes up far too often and gets both discussed and interpreted incorrectly. People do care about MAG, but what some fail to understand is that MAG isn't just a game to those who played it. MAG was, and still is, much more than that. MAG is to those who played it what Eve is to people who play Eve: a community. It is a gigantic tangled web of connections between a bunch of players who united for a common cause. We played MAG because we wanted to enjoy playing a game with people with whom we enjoyed playing it. The MMOFPS genre is tiny in every sense of the word. If you look at it on the PlayStation 3, you find one game: MAG. Dust is literally the only game that promises to fill this niche for years to come. What is frequently missed by Eve community members is that the MAG community is just like Eve's. It has a bunch of baggage and history, friends and foes, alliances and entities. And the MAG community is migrating en masse to Dust. We're not all about to suffer a bout of spontaneous amnesia and forget our shared experiences, nor should we. The ridiculous perception that everyone should forget everything about MAG can only be misdirected anger from Eve players. Change is coming. Embrace it, like it, hate it, whatever. If you have a problem, you have it with Dust. You don't have it with MAG. Asking MAG players to do the equivalent of an Eve player forgetting all the corporations, alliances, people, and experiences you've encountered and shared while playing Eve is just pure crying. The other side of the coin is old MAG players who make insufferably frequent references to MAG. Not to MAG as a community, but to MAG as a video game. MAG had elements as a game that were, and are, fantastic in terms of enjoyment of the experience. Those elements are often applicable to Dust. That being said, game mechanics that are good don't need a reference to MAG to validate what makes them good. They stand on their own and on arguments all their own. MAG, the video game, is dead for all intents and purposes. The parts of MAG that are good are still good, and they're good not because they were part of MAG. They're good because they work. What's the point of all of this? Eve players need to STFU about MAG- you probably didn't even play it and you're using it as a surrogate for your own fears that the power balance in Eve is going to change upon the release of Dust. MAG players need to STFU about MAG- MAG is over and we're here to discuss how to make Dust better, not further cry nostalgically over how much we used to enjoy MAG. Just look at ROFL. We're not a group of MAG guys and Eve guys trying to reconcile two incompatible philosophies. We're a group of Dust corporations and Eve corporations who accept how our interpersonal relationships have developed because of MAG and Eve, and we look forward to maximizing our enjoyment of Eve and Dust, two games connected together. These MAG discussions don't get us anywhere closer to making Dust a better game from either side of the table. This is the last time you'll ever see MAG more than once in a post from me.
Regis Mark V 91	Posted - 2012.09.11 16:57:00 - [25] - Quote Thomas Canalejo wrote: lol MAG was in no way a good game Zipper dose not keep up on there games at all sofar just from beta I think dust is a way better game . ccp dont make this game like mag . LOL MAG is 1 million times better than Dust 514. I'd rather play MAG2 and pay 60 dollars than play this and it's free!
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.09.11 16:57:00 - [26] - Quote @Royal The game modes were unique to MAG. Domination on CoD is so weak compared to domination on MAG. I'm hoping we get to see more progressive game play like that. Like we had in the Crater Lake stage of the Beta Bring back crater lake Edit: @Thomas It's already pretty similar to MAG. Unlucky...
J'Jor Da'Wg KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 648	Posted - 2012.09.11 17:28:00 - [27] - Quote TotalBreakage wrote: Deadly Mitauchi wrote: Sleepy Zan wrote: where's the raging, angry flame posts at? No one cares about MAG anymore except those who really can't play any other FPS. You're insulting KEQ. Yeah... Hey there fearless leader! LOL ;P I still care about MAG, not the way I used to, but it was undoubtedly fun, and DUST could take elements like the command structure and other gameplay elements... Like others said, don't make DUST like MAG, make it better than MAG.
Kaeralli Sturmovos KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 117	Posted - 2012.09.11 17:59:00 - [28] - Quote TotalBreakage wrote: MAG is the best game ever made, so I believe Dust should be more like MAG in terms of FPS gameplay, comms, platoon structure, and scale. Only then would this game sucseed in replacing our beloved game. LONG LIVE MAG! MAY DUST FILL THE VOID LEFT BY MAG IN OUR LIVES! Yes I know this is QQ inducing, we need some anyways to stay healthy, the STB threads arent doing it anymore. you should see a doctor your raging nerd boner for a dead game is sad. NEW IP > GAME CLONE ANY DAY
The Polish Hammer Doomheim 373	Posted - 2012.09.11 18:11:00 - [29] - Quote Sleepy Zan wrote: Oh there they are I was waiting myself Sleepy Also, cool story OP.
AC2AW-LEEROY Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 62	Posted - 2012.09.11 19:00:00 - [30] - Quote Hate to say it but MAG was the first FPS I actually played coming from an PC MMORPG background and I enjoyed playing it even though my KDR was never any good but playing with with Corps like PRO and OSG made it fun like being in a guild, This game being part of the EVE universe is whats going to make the game play a lot deeper then MAG could of ever been. when CCP finally gets this polished we will forget MAG. That I have no doubts My 2 ISK



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