In this beta KD means little in terms of bragging rights because it's so easy to have a really nice one after you get so much SP, or spec into marauder tanks.. if you're always playing in one of those you should have a 7.0+.

Otherwise I agree, that's almost always what ends up to me.. run around owning & capping objectives just to lose them just as fast.

Wall of text self praise post.

Ok. Guess I should have went with the internet term TL/DR.

Your KD will determine if you're able to take an objective by being able to take out the defenders.

Your KD will determine if you're able to Defend the objective from attackers.

Your KD will determine if you're able to be an asset to the team. (being able to pull your own weight.) Sure, you can go logi, logies are good, they may not get a lot of kills. But they do help keep the team together.

If you're a sniper that's neg bombing, then please just quit, and open up the spot to someone how may be a little more capable at killing the team. You're useless... There really is no nice way to say it.


I run an assault Type II suit. I use either a gek, or a proto rifle, but I still use my milita gear if i don't feel like steam rolling the enemy team (which is quite often.). I'm able to mow down 15-20+ people a game, and only die 1-4 times most of the time. In-between those kills, I am capping OBJ's While the rest of you are respawning.

I am always trying to cover every objective as much as possible. Why? because I have no faith in my team when I'm running solo. There are times where I will be overwhelmed, and the rest of my team is busy LOOKING THE OTHER WAY.

So please, fore the love of all things ISK, try to not die ,and actually be an asset..


My team ends up losing so many skirmish games because they CAN'T defend the objective.



Stat padding with a tank is a different story. The longer you spend in the tank, the worse you'll actually become when you go infantry.

Bravo to the completely false conclusion. Kd doesn't mean squat. At most it says how often you fight noobs. Kd doesn't mean you captured or defended an objective, just that you got blah amount of kills based on skill, luck, or enemy noobs.

If i'm able to cap ,and hold an objective single handedly, then I
m sure KD does mean something there.


five .50 players would all die in the first five seconds of the cap, where as i would still be fighting.

I fight a lot of noobs because they're all unable to get a positive KD, I can take on, and kill most of you STB kids when you aren't hiding in a tank.


Your KD does mean much much more then what you think.

I wall of text would imply no paragraphs. My post has paragraphs.

I, too, am awesome.



...am I doing it right?

Unfortunately KD actually IS meaningless

Why?

Because tanks, that's why.

Your KD will determine if you're able to take an objective by being able to take out the defenders.

Your KD will determine if you're able to Defend the objective from attackers.

Your KD will determine if you're able to be an asset to the team. (being able to pull your own weight.) Sure, you can go logi, logies are good, they may not get a lot of kills. But they do help keep the team together.

If you're a sniper that's neg bombing, then please just quit, and open up the spot to someone how may be a little more capable at killing the team. You're useless... There really is no nice way to say it.


I run an assault Type II suit. I use either a gek, or a proto rifle, but I still use my milita gear if i don't feel like steam rolling the enemy team (which is quite often.). I'm able to mow down 15-20+ people a game, and only die 1-4 times most of the time. In-between those kills, I am capping OBJ's While the rest of you are respawning.

I am always trying to cover every objective as much as possible. Why? because I have no faith in my team when I'm running solo. There are times where I will be overwhelmed, and the rest of my team is busy LOOKING THE OTHER WAY.

So please, fore the love of all things ISK, try to not die ,and actually be an asset..


My team ends up losing so many skirmish games because they CAN'T defend the objective.



Stat padding with a tank is a different story. The longer you spend in the tank, the worse you'll actually become when you go infantry.

KD does mean something I agree, the only problem is there is no matchmaking based on any player filters at the moment so your spot on the the amount of kills you have is only based on how well you can commit mass genocide on the scrubs.

In other words, it is lower than meaningless

at the moment yes.

epeen... boosting stats since 1993

I'm currently around 4.20, and it's still still going up at a steady pace. I don't use tanks, other then driving around a Sice once in a blue moon.

Go back to the old arcades then you'll find it

Calling shenanigans . I see you in a tank a lot!
OK here is a theory. I have been on foot this whole build. Howdidthattaste. Barely a 3.0

However I am only good in close places and objectives as a heavy would you want me on your team? I mean my kdr is not even decent?

we did before you became an elitist

Your KD will determine if you're able to hide in a tank by an objective by being able to take out the defenders.

Your KD will determine if you're able to Defend the objective hiding in a tank from attackers.

Your KD will determine if you're able to be an asset to the team. (being able to pull your own weight.) Sure, you can go tank, tanks are good, they may get a lot of kills. But they don't help keep the team together.

If you're a sniper that's neg bombing, then please just quit, and open up the spot to a tank who may be a little more capable at killing the team. You're useless... There really is no nice way to say it. Get a tank.


I run an assault Type II suit. I use either a gek, or a proto rifle, but I still use my milita gear if i don't feel like steam rolling the enemy team (which is quite often.). I'm able to mow down 15-20+ people a game, and only die 1-4 times most of the time. In-between those kills, I am capping OBJ's While the rest of you are spawning tanks.

I am always trying to cover every objective as much as possible. Why? because I have no faith in my team when I'm running solo. There are times where I will be overwhelmed, and the rest of my team is busy HIDING IN TANKS.

So please, fore the love of all things ISK, try to not die ,and actually be an asset.Get a tank.


My team ends up losing so many skirmish games because they CAN'T defend the objective.Get a tank.



Stat padding with a tank is a different story. The longer you spend in the tank, the worse you'll actually become when you go infantry.

Honestly? I'd like to see something like average WP earned per match over KDR. Personally, KDR is one of the most useless stats when judging a player's "skill".

All I want is for you people to go positive. That's all. Or at-least stay below -7 deaths.

OP I dont see you in the top 100 in K/D so ??? when you don't have a K/D that I can mock then you can post auto-falashio crap (no tank padding here just type 2 assault and ar)

All I want is for you people to go positive. That's all. Or at-least stay below -7 deaths.

Its just that if you don't (at present) count:
- Useless snipers.
- Bad hit detection.
- OP Tanks.
- Pilots and logis.
- All the players out there that really don't care about win/objectives that would rather stay out of harms way than taking risks.

And if you count everytone as:
- Dedicated players.
- In a clan or organized team.
- Playing a corp battle.
- All are players with much SP and fanzypants gear.

In short - remove everything down to the core, no OP stuff, no amount of noobs to kill, both teams have plenty off whatever gear they want, plenty off skillpoints. Picture a Dust clan battle in 2 years time.

Who do you really think will win the battle? The clan with the good killers or the clan with supposedly " best teamwork"?

I'll put my bet on the best killers any day, all my considerable MAG and other FPS experience says so.

THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT KDR IS THE ONLY MEASSUREMENT OF A PLAYERS SKILL, ITS JUST THE MOST IMPORTANT. BUT DON'T THINK THAT A TEAM CAN "CO-ORDINATE" A VICTORY WHEN THE ENTIRE TEAM KEEPS DYING TO SUPERIOR SKILLED PLAYERS. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT...

Its just that if you don't (at present) count:
- Useless snipers.
- Bad hit detection.
- OP Tanks.
- Pilots and logis.
- All the players out there that really don't care about win/objectives that would rather stay out of harms way than taking risks.

And if you count everytone as:
- Dedicated players.
- In a clan or organized team.
- Playing a corp battle.
- All are players with much SP and fanzypants gear.

In short - remove everything down to the core, no OP stuff, no amount of noobs to kill, both teams have plenty off whatever gear they want, plenty off skillpoints. Picture a Dust clan battle in 2 years time.

Who do you really think will win the battle? The clan with the good killers or the clan with supposedly " best teamwork"?

I'll put my bet on the best killers any day, all my considerable MAG and other FPS experience says so.

THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT KDR IS THE ONLY MEASSUREMENT OF A PLAYERS SKILL, ITS JUST THE MOST IMPORTANT. BUT DON'T THINK THAT A TEAM CAN "CO-ORDINATE" A VICTORY WHEN THE ENTIRE TEAM KEEPS DYING TO SUPERIOR SKILLED PLAYERS. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT...

Tactically sound teams could easily beat teams made of killers and it happened a fair bit

considering the number of toons in the top 50 KDR with less then 30 kills but a great k/d rating.... i think the entire premise is a little shonky :)

Who do you really think will win the battle? The clan with the good killers or the clan with supposedly " best teamwork"?

I'll put my bet on the best killers any day, all my considerable MAG and other FPS experience says so.

considering the nature of this game's future:

If i throw a billion isk at an alliance, asking them to field their entire mercenary force at some little spec of rock in nulsec, and that the defending force may or may not know whats coming, then no... victory has nothing to do with kdr, victory in this case is about overwhelming numbers, used to smash all opposition, repeatedly... until said opposition decides its not worth it...

The problem is, is that you define victory in terms of a standard death match.

Your KD will determine if you're able to take an objective by being able to take out the defenders.

Your KD will determine if you're able to Defend the objective from attackers.

Your KD will determine if you're able to be an asset to the team. (being able to pull your own weight.) Sure, you can go logi, logies are good, they may not get a lot of kills. But they do help keep the team together.

If you're a sniper that's neg bombing, then please just quit, and open up the spot to someone how may be a little more capable at killing the team. You're useless... There really is no nice way to say it.


I run an assault Type II suit. I use either a gek, or a proto rifle, but I still use my milita gear if i don't feel like steam rolling the enemy team (which is quite often.). I'm able to mow down 15-20+ people a game, and only die 1-4 times most of the time. In-between those kills, I am capping OBJ's While the rest of you are respawning.

I am always trying to cover every objective as much as possible. Why? because I have no faith in my team when I'm running solo. There are times where I will be overwhelmed, and the rest of my team is busy LOOKING THE OTHER WAY.

So please, fore the love of all things ISK, try to not die ,and actually be an asset..


My team ends up losing so many skirmish games because they CAN'T defend the objective.



Stat padding with a tank is a different story. The longer you spend in the tank, the worse you'll actually become when you go infantry.

considering the nature of this game's future:

If i throw a billion isk at an alliance, asking them to field their entire mercenary force at some little spec of rock in nulsec, and that the defending force may or may not know whats coming, then no... victory has nothing to do with kdr, victory in this case is about overwhelming numbers, used to smash all opposition, repeatedly... until said opposition decides its not worth it...

The problem is, is that you define victory in terms of a standard death match.

If i'm able to cap ,and hold an objective single handedly, then I
m sure KD does mean something there.


five .50 players would all die in the first five seconds of the cap, where as i would still be fighting.

I fight a lot of noobs because they're all unable to get a positive KD, I can take on, and kill most of you STB kids when you aren't hiding in a tank.


Your KD does mean much much more then what you think.

My kd ratio is about 0.2 yet I still earn about 20- 30 thousand sp per game

Fun fact: most of the guys with the highest KD's at the end of a game will also have the most war points.

Merc A hacks a point, and has to wait. He dies in the process by a sniper.

Merc B is still alive, and actively defending the point from enemies so the hack can finish. Merb B is able to kill ATLEAST 4 others before dying.

Merc B now has 200 points, while Merc A has 100.

KDR means **** all

And scouts, snipers, mil shotguns, etc.

KDR means **** all tbh when hit detection is still dodgy, we are having framerate drops and its easy as pie to skill into a tank