take a long time to upgrade. .

No they dont

fixed

Tanks are expensive as sh!t and take a long time to upgrade. Therefore they are supposed to be hard to kill.

The issue is that not many people are speccing into AV loadouts. If there aren't any AV units on the field, of course you are going to get wrecked by HAVs.

Another problem is that there isn't much incentive to spec into an AV class. They are useless against everything except for vehicles (logical I suppose). If they can't fight anything except for vehicles they will usually drop their AV spec in favor of another class that can deal with infantry better.

Additionally if someone hasn't started speccing into AV from the start they are gong to want to finish their other class first. For example, I started playing logi. Despite the fact that speccing into AV would hugely benefit my team, I feel like I need to max out the effectiveness of my logi loadout first. Maxing out a class takes forever, so my AV spec won't happen for a looooong time. This isn't about logic in this case. Speccing into AV would help the team, but not many people think in those terms. As a result, HAVs run rampant.

So here is what needs to happen:

- Buff AV effectiveness versus infantry

- Add large incentives for taking down HAVs and dropships

It's a start at least.

Everytime I see an HAV apologist thread, I LOL.

"Yeah, tanks don't need fixed. I drive one, I love being invincible. Isn't that reasonable since i put in a little bit of ISK and SP?"

Hey OP, before you post do a little math. SP for tanks is nothing compared to trying to get suit and weapons for tanks and infantry. The black ops tanks....yea lots of SP. The standard.....very little. You just wasted 5 minutes of my life. I will find you on the battlefield. Or just give your name to THOSE GUYS to take care of.

Lack of a militia forge/HMG is a part of the problem. Really, is a militia version of the coooolest weapon Dust has askin too much?

i for one think that av guys shold get a much larger piece of the pie isk-wise when they take out an HAV. splash mods would go a long way for any infantry and with the implementation of artillery, an anti-air flak cannon for heavies would be awesome.....

I think the real way to handle this is deeper. I would like to see a clone-rotation system. Yes. So, if you happen to "bite the bullet," as they say, you would be able to switch to an alt in your account. This isn't unreasonable as storyline goes either IMHO. It is just simply a clone-farm. Your ability to activate a clone fit for your current battle conditions seems like a natural progression in "Clone-Warfare Management". It's a reasonable skill, so my point and stance supporting changing characters mid-combat is this. Make it a skill, level it up, and allow for clone swaps. The key sci-fi element here is that you can drop a brain-pattern into a piece of flesh machinery, so...with the right skills, you should be able to 'select your profile'.

Think of it as 'the bench' guys. Every good battle game / sporting event allows for bench guys.

No they dont

I have driven a tank like 2-3 times ever, and all of those times I got blown up because I didn't know what I was doing.

I think tanks are fine except for their infinite ammo.

This makes absolutely no sense, and further, isn't workable. You have three character slots for three different characters, each of which can be in a different corp or even on different sides of a war. You couldn't swap different characters into a battle because they might even be on different sides of a conflict.

Characters are separate fictional people, not sets of skills you can load into a clone.

They should just separate the driver from the main-turret like like they have done with all other vehicles.
There's simply no reason to allow a single person to efficiently operate tank.

Here's my suggestion in the feedback section

I think the real way to handle this is deeper. I would like to see a clone-rotation system. Yes. So, if you happen to "bite the bullet," as they say, you would be able to switch to an alt in your account. This isn't unreasonable as storyline goes either IMHO. It is just simply a clone-farm. Your ability to activate a clone fit for your current battle conditions seems like a natural progression in "Clone-Warfare Management". It's a reasonable skill, so my point and stance supporting changing characters mid-combat is this. Make it a skill, level it up, and allow for clone swaps. The key sci-fi element here is that you can drop a brain-pattern into a piece of flesh machinery, so...with the right skills, you should be able to 'select your profile'.

Think of it as 'the bench' guys. Every good battle game / sporting event allows for bench guys.

This will probably be handled in later builds by jump clones like in eve. Skills are your mercs skills but you will be able to augment them with implants. Then you can jump between clones, maybe even during battles, to switch what your specific implants do, rather that's boosting your damage/accuracy or making you be a better doc or boosting your shield management skill. I don't think they will ever implement jumping between characters though as you cannot do this even in eve and doesn't make a lot of sense.