E3 was fun, Precursor is very meh. I'm pretty much let down with all the features I was excited for, and I'm lagging a ton more now. I'd like to see E3 back, minus the vehicle spams and ****** spawns.

This is basically where I'm at. I've been having a blast since I started back in the second build, but for whatever reason...I don't know...it just feels pretty empty right now. Like, I just sign on to grind away, and I don't even know why.

I can't even put my finger on it, I'm just not really having too much fun right now.

This is basically where I'm at. I've been having a blast since I started back in the second build, but for whatever reason...I don't know...it just feels pretty empty right now. Like, I just sign on to grind away, and I don't even know why.

I can't even put my finger on it, I'm just not really having too much fun right now.

i know this feeling, its the new sp system config i guess, it takes so long to gain sp to upgrade anything, and the isk counter is on drugs also. so you cant afford the books nor the equipment :l i had a sagaris at 2nd build and now i cant even afford a sica.

Play EVE for a month, come back to Dust, and you will feel how lightning fast the skill progression is.

People are just far to used to instant gratification these days. It doesn't really take long to get anywhere, it just isn't very fast.

I've played eve for 6 years, is that enough?

Then why in the world are you complaining about skilling being slow?

The fact that they've been made aware of the issue doesn't mean they can wave a magic wand and make it go away. Project development on this scale is extremely complicated. Everything has to be planned and considered. Rest assured that every bug we identify has been logged somewhere at CCP HQ and is ready to work on.

On top of that in many cases they can't even do bug fixes yet because they still have features to implement. Now, I know what you're thinking. "Fix the bugs before adding new features". It seems to make sense to the layperson, but in software development everything is interconnected. If they fix bugs now they're just going to have other bugs pop up when they add new features. The process will go a lot faster if they introduce the features first, that way they can identify all the bugs together and get them fixed.

Plus, knowing CCP, they'll break a dozen things every time they introduce a new feature. Seriously, love those guys, they made the only MMO worth playing, but every time they add an expansion or a major addition something gets majorly borked. Then a few days later they fix it, and everything is awesome again, more so than it was before the expansion.

Then why in the world are you complaining about skilling being slow?

because its a game you have to sit on to gain the skills, eve you dont have to really mind it or "grind" to get somewhere :l

Definitely! It's fun being in on the creation of something new, and I just might have some small influence in how it ends up. At the very least I will know what I'm doing at launch.

Oh okay, I see what you mean. So rather than just queueing a skill and letting it do its thing, you have to grind the SP, and you don't really like that? If correct, I can agree with that. Personally I wish they made active skilling provide bonus SP, and made passive skilling the primary source of SP.

exactly, that would be a working solution, for both games i guess, as for eve to gain extra sp to gunnery or missiles or weaponry in general as your pvp ing around or that stuff but also, i'd love to see dust skills go semi passive and you'd just get extra from the battles you go through, though im not sure would it work too well since you could just drop back and log for a month and get easy sp, tho they should make the queue so you can designate the skill your going to be training for so you dont have to actually gather 512k sp to spend it directly on skill as instead you'd be able to partially train the skill, would be cool in my opinionn

I play games to have fun, I wouldn't play this if I wasn't having fun.

i am, i never knew how much aim asist was holding me back scince persicuter my K/D doubbled!

when im actually playing, dust is my new favorite game and addicting as ****

Yep, I said it.

OK I have never played EVE or even heard of it. I gave up PC gaming back at the turn of the century for the instant gratification of a console LOL! Back in the day I was a Tie Ace, played Full Throttle and we loaded in games w a boot disc!

My point being that so far, as a player who leveled up through all 3 PMCs in MAG, that NO I am not enjoying it. So far. Its definitely got that "itch I can't scratch" SOMETHING but lacks a lot of the overarching story. We that come from the PS3 world are going "WTF?"

When MAG went to a more complex skilling tree and weapons upgrade system I was at full strength and could pick and choose my loadouts. Or spend longer time diddling with them, whichever! But for some reason a lot of the fun seemed to go out of it and the frustration factor rose. Squad play suffered and team balancing became a joke. I am just saying more complex is rarely BETTER (insert Big Gov snarkiness here)

I think you need cutscenes, movies to unlock that background it, less intimidating loadout trees, and more scifi. MORE SCIFI! There are a lot of big budget locked-in shooter franchises that are on fourth and fifth versions with a dedicated demographic. This is hard to get into. For smart people! Imagine your typical drooler... ROFL

I was but not anymore, so many bugs that have been mentioned over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over...and not get fixed

Instead let's add new content even though we didn't fix bugs because we(CCP) must prioritize flash over substance and core mechanics.

I was but not anymore, so many bugs that have been mentioned over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over...and not get fixed

Instead let's add new content even though we didn't fix bugs because we(CCP) must prioritize flash over substance and core mechanics.

I think my biggest and probably only gripe aside from the graphical pop-in and lag, is the shooting mechanics.

I have the sensitivity turned down to absolute MINIMUM and I still feel like I'm shooting all over the place when I try to aim; it's far too twitchy. I even tried Aim Assist (which I try to avoid in games as much as possible).

I barely even noticed a difference when I turned sensitivity all the way down. Feels way too loose and twitchy.

have you tried kb/m? once you get used to them there is no better. i'm not saying you cant get good at controler.

Play EVE for a month, come back to Dust, and you will feel how lightning fast the skill progression is.

People are just far to used to instant gratification these days. It doesn't really take long to get anywhere, it just isn't very fast.

Yup. Lots of fun. And nothing like getting that orbital strike just when you've hit a nasty pocket of resistance

We can't really do our jobs properly without more content in place, because we're testing an incomplete picture. They've already said that they're compiling and working on a list of bugs based on our feedback, but some of them have to wake until the build is more complete.

I was but not anymore, so many bugs that have been mentioned over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over...and not get fixed

Instead let's add new content even though we didn't fix bugs because we(CCP) must prioritize flash over substance and core mechanics.

While I agree that the number of bugs is ridiculous and a bit overwhelming CCP can't afford to stop implementing stuff to be tested at this point in time. Fixing these bugs is most likely not an overnight process and no reason to stop their schedule, especially if they plan to release it this year (not much time left). With that being said they need to get all these other things into the game and have them tested as well so they can find whats wrong, what could use improvements, and tweak it before release.

+ like someone else said, we can't properly test when we only have a small portion of what will be available after the game launches. Tanks may seem OP now but what if we had some new tech that is great for taking down tanks? The balance scale changes every time you add something to the game.

Yep, it's pretty fun if I can find people who are playing with me, and not just people who are running around shooting stuff. Finding a squad is a must, and then there are technical problems still, but once you're in the game and coordinated with a squad it's really very enjoyable. There is the off-chance that I hop solo into a game and find someone on comms, and it can be fun to go around blowing up LAVs if people are spamming them, but it's most fun when you're on a team.

Yup. Lots of fun. And nothing like getting that orbital strike just when you've hit a nasty pocket of resistance

I think my biggest and probably only gripe aside from the graphical pop-in and lag, is the shooting mechanics.

I have the sensitivity turned down to absolute MINIMUM and I still feel like I'm shooting all over the place when I try to aim; it's far too twitchy. I even tried Aim Assist (which I try to avoid in games as much as possible).

I barely even noticed a difference when I turned sensitivity all the way down. Feels way too loose and twitchy.

Nope but my stupid ******* laptop can't connect to eve anymore and i just switched to a paying account

I'm enjoying it ALOT!!
it has flaws, but that's to be expected. I've been in the beta since pre-E3 build and its come a LONG way since then.
all you nay Sayers who have only been playing a few weeks don't have a CLUE how much dust has improved over the months, you come in here all high and goddam mighty and bash the game AND ccp as if its the full frigging release, while at the same time spoiling it for the rest of us.
dust is awesome, dust will continue to get more awesome-er, dust will be the greatest and best fpsmmo (in time).

No. I'm fairly certain at this point that Dust is going to fall flat on it's face. It's a sub par FPS as far as I'm concerned...

A) It has very clunky controls. Nothing works quite as smoothly as it should. It's just annoying and this sort of thing kills FPS's these days.

B) The fitting system is extremely weird for fitting a drop suit. For Eve, it's ok since it at least kind of makes sense. The skill system doesn't really fit either imo. This sort of thing shouldn't have been translated over from Eve, and not many FPS players are going to appreciate either. I honestly have no idea whose idea it was to I mean really? They even kept the circle for the fitting screen? Just obnoxious.

C) As it is, this game really does not have an MMO feel and thus a lot will be disappointed by it's MMO advertising. There's no free-roaming, nothing to explore, battles are fought only through matches, etc. etc. etc... It wont' really be an MMO until it lets players explore worlds (or at least facilities on different worlds), high sec home worlds, or different stations. It needs something though that makes it more free and feel like an mmo.

D) The graphics leave a lot to be desired. Even for the outdated standards for a PS3, they're pretty bad.

Dust needs a LOT of work before it's presentable....

I agree with everything except B. I actually like the fitting system. And as for D, I don't play Battlefield for the graphics, Dust is no different.

Wrong.

I've been playing for several months now.

No one is bashing CCP. This is the beta forum where they are openly asking for feedback about the game. Most people I see on this thread have posted constructive criticism.

There's no need to get defensive and upset about it. Every piece of feedback can help CCP produce a better game.

NO

This "BETA" is $h!T TBH

The door is there ----------> [ o]
[. ] don't hit your head on the way out

keep burying your head in the sand fanboy

Im enjoying the game but the Glitches especially not being able to get into game makes me want to quit.

NO

This "BETA" is $h!T TBH

Lately it has been getting on my nerves. I haven't been playing a lot for the past few days but my love for dust still stands. I just wish CCP would get their priorities straight instead of adding and fixing other problems. I believe the annoying bugs we are facing with now should be "THE" priority before anything else at hand. But thats just me, I am just sick and tired of playing a game and then having to restart. It's a continous cycle, really.

Looking forward when all these bugs are crushed for good. It'll be an amazing moment in my life and in gaming history! lol