DUST Search - So, is anyone actually ENJOYING the beta?

Sees-Too-Much wrote:

The fact that they've been made aware of the issue doesn't mean they can wave a magic wand and make it go away. Project development on this scale is extremely complicated. Everything has to be planned and considered. Rest assured that every bug we identify has been logged somewhere at CCP HQ and is ready to work on.

On top of that in many cases they can't even do bug fixes yet because they still have features to implement. Now, I know what you're thinking. "Fix the bugs before adding new features". It seems to make sense to the layperson, but in software development everything is interconnected. If they fix bugs now they're just going to have other bugs pop up when they add new features. The process will go a lot faster if they introduce the features first, that way they can identify all the bugs together and get them fixed.

Plus, knowing CCP, they'll break a dozen things every time they introduce a new feature. Seriously, love those guys, they made the only MMO worth playing, but every time they add an expansion or a major addition something gets majorly borked. Then a few days later they fix it, and everything is awesome again, more so than it was before the expansion.

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STB-callmeanimal75-EV Doomheim 31	Posted - 2012.08.30 20:04:00 - [1] - Quote Yep, I said it.
Veigar Mordekaiser Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 676	Posted - 2012.08.30 20:06:00 - [2] - Quote E3 was fun, Precursor is very meh. I'm pretty much let down with all the features I was excited for, and I'm lagging a ton more now. I'd like to see E3 back, minus the vehicle spams and ****** spawns.
Patches The Hyena 204	Posted - 2012.08.30 20:07:00 - [3] - Quote I was until the last patch. After the last patch the game has become increasingly difficult to play for to multiple restarts required for one match.
Skihids Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 969	Posted - 2012.08.30 20:08:00 - [4] - Quote Definitely! It's fun being in on the creation of something new, and I just might have some small influence in how it ends up. At the very least I will know what I'm doing at launch.
Loss Tovas ZionTCD Legacy Rising 236	Posted - 2012.08.30 20:09:00 - [5] - Quote I am. Even though it is still rough around the edges this game is still hands down awesome. Besides, it even comes with the side perk of watching STB members rage quit the match because I cost them too much money.
Antilles Maximus ZionTCD Legacy Rising 80	Posted - 2012.08.30 20:11:00 - [6] - Quote Very much so man. Looking past the all too frequent network disconnections and invalid fittings... it's a fun game. CCP should have all this stuff fixed soon and when the game is released I expect it to be overwhelmingly fun.
Raynor Ragna 266	Posted - 2012.08.30 20:11:00 - [7] - Quote Precursor is a huge improvement on dust. Im playing more out of fun than SP grid or bug searching.
Sephoran Griffith Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 96	Posted - 2012.08.30 20:13:00 - [8] - Quote Yes is great fun when I can get into a skirmish map. Not loving the instant battle matchmaker, but otherwise, excellent.
Omnipotent lilmamaj Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 205	Posted - 2012.08.30 20:14:00 - [9] - Quote This game hasn't been good since the beta before E3. Does enjoying the forums count?
FrozenDefender II 1st STAR SYSTEMS INC. 10	Posted - 2012.08.30 20:21:00 - [10] - Quote I actually enjoy the beta, the first build with the assault and secure mission was probly the most fun one as the map was awesomely variable, 2nd (e3 release) seemed kind of broken and too short for my count but the sp gain and isk gain was ok on the newest patch the ****** up the sp and isk counter but the loot makes up for it but it has no sense since you cant sell them. but generally I love it alot, best game i've ever played so far, if you dont count in good ol' battlefield 1942 ofc

DUST Fiend Immobile Infantry 1903	Posted - 2012.08.30 20:22:00 - [11] - Quote Veigar Mordekaiser wrote: E3 was fun, Precursor is very meh. I'm pretty much let down with all the features I was excited for, and I'm lagging a ton more now. I'd like to see E3 back, minus the vehicle spams and ****** spawns. This is basically where I'm at. I've been having a blast since I started back in the second build, but for whatever reason...I don't know...it just feels pretty empty right now. Like, I just sign on to grind away, and I don't even know why. I can't even put my finger on it, I'm just not really having too much fun right now.
Cerebral Wolf Jr Immobile Infantry 760	Posted - 2012.08.30 20:22:00 - [12] - Quote I'm enjoying it a lot and i prefer the current build to the last one minus the crashing issues.
Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 437	Posted - 2012.08.30 20:22:00 - [13] - Quote Asian servers are empty, so very very empty. I can live with some lag, as long as I get to play with people.
Veigar Mordekaiser Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 676	Posted - 2012.08.30 20:25:00 - [14] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Veigar Mordekaiser wrote: E3 was fun, Precursor is very meh. I'm pretty much let down with all the features I was excited for, and I'm lagging a ton more now. I'd like to see E3 back, minus the vehicle spams and ****** spawns. This is basically where I'm at. I've been having a blast since I started back in the second build, but for whatever reason...I don't know...it just feels pretty empty right now. Like, I just sign on to grind away, and I don't even know why. I can't even put my finger on it, I'm just not really having too much fun right now. I thought KBM would be great, but the controls aren't fluid, I can't remap, and the turn caps are severely low, and extremely unrealistic. The new graphics are nice, but there are way to many hiccups in the framerate because of it. I'm waiting til launch to make any "final judgement" on the game, and I'm faithful that CCP will update the game significantly, but I'm just not really loving Precursor.
FrozenDefender II 1st STAR SYSTEMS INC. 10	Posted - 2012.08.30 20:26:00 - [15] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Veigar Mordekaiser wrote: E3 was fun, Precursor is very meh. I'm pretty much let down with all the features I was excited for, and I'm lagging a ton more now. I'd like to see E3 back, minus the vehicle spams and ****** spawns. This is basically where I'm at. I've been having a blast since I started back in the second build, but for whatever reason...I don't know...it just feels pretty empty right now. Like, I just sign on to grind away, and I don't even know why. I can't even put my finger on it, I'm just not really having too much fun right now. i know this feeling, its the new sp system config i guess, it takes so long to gain sp to upgrade anything, and the isk counter is on drugs also. so you cant afford the books nor the equipment :l i had a sagaris at 2nd build and now i cant even afford a sica.
Veigar Mordekaiser Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 676	Posted - 2012.08.30 20:28:00 - [16] - Quote FrozenDefender II wrote: i know this feeling, its the new sp system config i guess, it takes so long to gain sp to upgrade anything, and the isk counter is on drugs also. so you cant afford the books nor the equipment :l i had a sagaris at 2nd build and now i cant even afford a sica. Play EVE for a month, come back to Dust, and you will feel how lightning fast the skill progression is. People are just far to used to instant gratification these days. It doesn't really take long to get anywhere, it just isn't very fast.
hupi testi 22	Posted - 2012.08.30 20:28:00 - [17] - Quote Yep, enjoying it wholehartedly. Even with the pesky/annoying bugs, so much so that cancelled my trip to summer cottage. Wasnt good weather anyway. Was beta testing EVE also back in the day and, oh boy, those days...
Goric Rumis Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 80	Posted - 2012.08.30 20:29:00 - [18] - Quote Yep, it's pretty fun if I can find people who are playing with me, and not just people who are running around shooting stuff. Finding a squad is a must, and then there are technical problems still, but once you're in the game and coordinated with a squad it's really very enjoyable. There is the off-chance that I hop solo into a game and find someone on comms, and it can be fun to go around blowing up LAVs if people are spamming them, but it's most fun when you're on a team.
FrozenDefender II 1st STAR SYSTEMS INC. 10	Posted - 2012.08.30 20:30:00 - [19] - Quote Veigar Mordekaiser wrote: FrozenDefender II wrote: i know this feeling, its the new sp system config i guess, it takes so long to gain sp to upgrade anything, and the isk counter is on drugs also. so you cant afford the books nor the equipment :l i had a sagaris at 2nd build and now i cant even afford a sica. Play EVE for a month, come back to Dust, and you will feel how lightning fast the skill progression is. People are just far to used to instant gratification these days. It doesn't really take long to get anywhere, it just isn't very fast. I've played eve for 6 years, is that enough?
Felix Ituin Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2012.08.30 20:31:00 - [20] - Quote I'm enjoying it overall, but I suck at console FPS controls to the point that I didn't really play before Precursor, so it's still new to me. I feel like vehicles and spawn camps mean that if one team gets enough upper hand, they can just bury their opponents and wait to win, but I haven't seen enough to honestly say if character skills and equipment give the kind of wiggle room to get out of that. I have spawned and been shot to death in the back before I can even turn around, which is something that probably needs to go away by launch, but once I'm out on the map and moving around I feel like things are fairly balanced. Hugely agree with the lag and disconnect issues, but hopefully that is just a matter of optimizing code and won't last too long.

Marwan2 Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 60	Posted - 2012.08.30 20:32:00 - [21] - Quote Nope, shooting mechanics are still meh.
Veigar Mordekaiser Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 676	Posted - 2012.08.30 20:41:00 - [22] - Quote FrozenDefender II wrote: Veigar Mordekaiser wrote: FrozenDefender II wrote: i know this feeling, its the new sp system config i guess, it takes so long to gain sp to upgrade anything, and the isk counter is on drugs also. so you cant afford the books nor the equipment :l i had a sagaris at 2nd build and now i cant even afford a sica. Play EVE for a month, come back to Dust, and you will feel how lightning fast the skill progression is. People are just far to used to instant gratification these days. It doesn't really take long to get anywhere, it just isn't very fast. I've played eve for 6 years, is that enough? Then why in the world are you complaining about skilling being slow?
DUST Fiend Immobile Infantry 1903	Posted - 2012.08.30 20:43:00 - [23] - Quote Veigar Mordekaiser wrote: Then why in the world are you complaining about skilling being slow? To be fair, EVE is a SIGNIFICANTLY more passive game. FPS games are more, in the moment, so sitting around waiting for your SP to fill up can be kind of a drag. I for one don't mind that so much, I hope they find a way to even it out a bit more come release, but we'll have to see. The more I play, the more I wonder just how they plan on pulling of this "7 year skill system" outside of just giving 4 versions of each skill for the different races.
Knarf Black Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 397	Posted - 2012.08.30 20:43:00 - [24] - Quote This beta has actually held my attention longer than any other multiplayer shooter except maybe the original Counter Strike. (Halo 3 would be third place.) That is unless you count Left 4 Dead, but I consider those games to be an entirely different animal.
Obama DAT Doomheim 389	Posted - 2012.08.30 20:49:00 - [25] - Quote Yeah, i'm loving it. Look forward to playing everyday upon getting home from work.
Maximus Stryker Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 393	Posted - 2012.08.30 20:50:00 - [26] - Quote I am enjoying it, yes. also, i found this post from another thread interesting: Sees-Too-Much wrote: The fact that they've been made aware of the issue doesn't mean they can wave a magic wand and make it go away. Project development on this scale is extremely complicated. Everything has to be planned and considered. Rest assured that every bug we identify has been logged somewhere at CCP HQ and is ready to work on. On top of that in many cases they can't even do bug fixes yet because they still have features to implement. Now, I know what you're thinking. "Fix the bugs before adding new features". It seems to make sense to the layperson, but in software development everything is interconnected. If they fix bugs now they're just going to have other bugs pop up when they add new features. The process will go a lot faster if they introduce the features first, that way they can identify all the bugs together and get them fixed. Plus, knowing CCP, they'll break a dozen things every time they introduce a new feature. Seriously, love those guys, they made the only MMO worth playing, but every time they add an expansion or a major addition something gets majorly borked. Then a few days later they fix it, and everything is awesome again, more so than it was before the expansion.
Invalid Fittings 12	Posted - 2012.08.30 20:51:00 - [27] - Quote I am enjoying the Beta...although I do think that the Invalid Fittings bug needs addressed ASAP as trying to play with friends, in a squad or even solo often ends up with a restart. The constant restarting when in a squad with the invalid fittings bug makes it very frustrating. Just got the bug again, so I stepped away from the game for a while.... if I hadn't gotten the bug I'd still be engaged and having fun. I hope that they can address this issue ASAP as it affects moral as well as game mechanics testing.
FrozenDefender II 1st STAR SYSTEMS INC. 10	Posted - 2012.08.30 20:52:00 - [28] - Quote Veigar Mordekaiser wrote: FrozenDefender II wrote: Veigar Mordekaiser wrote: FrozenDefender II wrote: i know this feeling, its the new sp system config i guess, it takes so long to gain sp to upgrade anything, and the isk counter is on drugs also. so you cant afford the books nor the equipment :l i had a sagaris at 2nd build and now i cant even afford a sica. Play EVE for a month, come back to Dust, and you will feel how lightning fast the skill progression is. People are just far to used to instant gratification these days. It doesn't really take long to get anywhere, it just isn't very fast. I've played eve for 6 years, is that enough? Then why in the world are you complaining about skilling being slow? because its a game you have to sit on to gain the skills, eve you dont have to really mind it or "grind" to get somewhere :l
Jimbeezy Imperfects Negative-Feedback 219	Posted - 2012.08.30 20:52:00 - [29] - Quote I have been having as much fun as possible. I'm not going to go off on a "it's a beta" conversation but I have to say that it needs more work. I like the hit detection a lot more on this build and gunplay seems to be more of a man to man battle instead of the over barring aim assist for the last build. But Yes I have been having a blast. If any of you guys expected this build to be perfect then you are mistaken. I have been apart of the beta (<3 CCP ) ever since the end of May and the amount of progress I have seen from build to build have been astounding in my book. At the rate of current progression I have faith that they can pull this off. But yes this build does leave a lot to be desired but you have to make the most of it. I am humble to be chosen by CCP as one of it's beta testers. Even if this game flops I will enjoy what time I can give. The important thing for me in this build is to find all of the abusive imbalances, bugs, exploits, and networking with my fellow merc's.
Veigar Mordekaiser Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 676	Posted - 2012.08.30 20:56:00 - [30] - Quote FrozenDefender II wrote: because its a game you have to sit on to gain the skills, eve you dont have to really mind it or "grind" to get somewhere :l Oh okay, I see what you mean. So rather than just queueing a skill and letting it do its thing, you have to grind the SP, and you don't really like that? If correct, I can agree with that. Personally I wish they made active skilling provide bonus SP, and made passive skilling the primary source of SP.



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