I have top tier internet and the hit detection in this game is terrible. And anyways the lag is not what is causing people to be disappointed in the beta. The gameplay just sucks (vehicle abuse, spawn exploits, OP / overused classes and weapons, etc).

From speedtest.net: Ping 19ms, D/L 36 Mbps, U/L 6 Mbps

Start of a match is the worse, takes 10 seconds after other people spawn for me to even choose my loadout. First minute is usually the worst.

Can I just say the question from the OP isn't relevant to anything to do with bad game play.

You can have a 1Mb connection and still play this game as well as a person with 100Mb. The size of your broadband only allows you to download large files faster it doesn't mean you have a better connection to a game server.

The amount of data sent back and forth from the internet for game play is minor and to be honest as a Virgin Media Technical support rep I can say that the quality of game play has nothing to do with the size of your download.

Now if you were to ask whats your ping to the server? or what is the Packet Delay Variance on your ISP like? those would be the more pertinent questions.

My local speed is 20-25 mbps down,and 4-4.5 mbps up.
I don't know exactly where the game's US server is located,though I heard it's somewhere outside of Dallas,so I can't get an accurate test from the game's server.BTW,if anyone does know for sure were the US server is,let us know so we can run a speed/ping test to it.

Hopefully,with some honest reporting from frustrated players,we can at least narrow down or rule out some of the variables that make is hard to play for some of us,and not so bad for others.

And again,please this is strictly a data collecting thread,and not intended to spark any trolling and or flaming.

Thanks.

Hi guys,

I've noticed a few requests for how to find out ping/latency to our servers. You can ping the below IPs to work out network performance & routes to our battle servers

I'll keep this list up to date if we add or change locations.

[US] - 173.193.23.235
[EU] - 159.253.143.196
[Asia] - 216.12.196.114


- Mindstar

Edit: 26/7/2012 - added Asia site IP

Try reading the stickies sometimes, the actual server IP addresses have been posted for a long time you just have to ping it to see what your latency is and btw your internet speed has less to do with lag than your ping does. You can have the fastest speed but if your ping(latency) is bad you will lag like crazy.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=postmessage&t=18627&f=729&q=114040



How to ping from you PC:

Go to Start > Run and type cmd. You can also search for cmd.exe in the Windows Search function.

Press OK to launch Windows Command

Type the word Ping then the IP address ( ie. Ping 173.193.23.235)

hit Enter to see your ping output.



I get a 62ms ping on the US server which is damn good but I still get lag in this game but probably not as much as other people.

i have 4mb broadband - from England

eu server gave me 41ms average

us server gave me 140ms average

asia server gave me 383ms average

I have top tier internet and the hit detection in this game is terrible. And anyways the lag is not what is causing people to be disappointed in the beta. The gameplay just sucks (vehicle abuse, spawn exploits, OP / overused classes and weapons, etc).

I would have to agree. I have great internet and haven't experienced any lag, but I have often found myself trying to shoot a scout suit who side-steps in circles around me and even though I AM CONNECTING my top-tier CreoDron Breech does minimal damage to his shields and he's able to whittle me down with his SMG. Same goes for dropships sitting perched on the command ship, or on top of the towers, etc. Being able to quickly throw down and detonate remote explosives with power greater than grenades. Things that just are strange gameplay. Hell things might be better if I was confident that my weapon was hitting the target correctly, and that they had some sort of aim-assist like other more established shooters that I love to play. They are established and FUN for a reason. Gears of War, Halo, Call of Duty, Battlefield 3. Say what you want about them, they are our competition and the core gameplay mechanics should strive to match or better the competition.

Thankfully it's still a BETA, which I tell everyone that I've gotten to purchase the $20 merc pack or give extra game codes to. I just thought that these gameplay issues would already be figured out by now, and that they'd be working on things like the graphics and making really cool environments.

But since this is an ever-evolving, constantly iterated on game, I'm really excited for Dust's future.

Unless they delay the launch a minimum of six months, Dust 514 has a high probability of failure. There are better, free MMOs from more experienced teams that are more fun to play (PlanetSide 2, MechWarrior Online, etc.).

A minimum of six months from when?

Except that there are a LOT of changes (mostly good ones) coming SOONGäó.

Also keep in mind we're currently playing a build that's more than a month behind what the devs have been doing.

Keep in mind most of the numbskulls on this forum shouting beta are clueless when it comes to software development.

From speedtest.net: Ping 19ms, D/L 36 Mbps, U/L 6 Mbps

Start of a match is the worse, takes 10 seconds after other people spawn for me to even choose my loadout. First minute is usually the worst.

I've been playing the beta for a few months.

I've been playing first person shooters for twenty five years.

Dust 514 has more problems than I have time to deliberate upon. Sure, there are a few good ideas, but CCP will never live up to the expectations they've created. Most of their innovations like Conquest mode and large scale battles aren't slated to be in the release build.

Unless they delay the launch a minimum of six months, Dust 514 has a high probability of failure. There are better, free MMOs from more experienced teams that are more fun to play (PlanetSide 2, MechWarrior Online, etc.).

But go ahead and convince yourself all of the flaws are because of beta. Or because you read a Wikipedia article about latency. Or because Hilmar dressed up as John Romero last October and slapped a BlTCH sticker on your forehead.

The smart players disembarked this hype train weeks ago.

I've been playing first person shooters for twenty five years.

I certainly have no problem shooting people

MIDI Maze maybe? That was '87.

Forgot to look closer at this one before...


I find that hard to believe...

You know Wolfenstein 3D is only 20 years old, right?

What were you playing before then?

There are a few from before then (I think there may even be a couple older than I am), but they were never popular, so meeting someone who played any of them is a bit of a novelty.

Never popular??

Maze War was a really big deal back in the 80s.

But then you're the same guy who thought id invented the FPS.

I just tested the EU and Asian servers.

EU average was 114 ms
Asia average was 267

So with my faster DL speed,I got a faster ping.

Call me crazy,but I think there's a definite relation to your DL and UL speeds and your ping.

It's like having a sports car that has a large motor vs a small motor.Sure you can squeeze out a relatively good amount of horsepower out of a four cylinder,but there's a lot of work and modification to make it that way.All eight cylinder sports cars are made to go fast right out the box.You have to have the motor to put out the horsepower.

So in essence,my comparison would be that DSL is like a Volkswagen GTI(4 cylinder smaller motor=slower speed.Lower horsepower=higher ping) ,and Cable internet is like a Corvette(8 cylinder bigger motor=faster speed.Higher horsepower=lower ping).

Never popular??

Maze War was a really big deal back in the 80s.

But then you're the same guy who thought id invented the FPS.

Lets keep thing in perspective though, a "really big deal" in the 80's was probably 10,000 copies.

Yes it was one of the first if not the first game with FPS gameplay. Wasn't the point to shoot the other players and escape the maze, emphasis on escpae, not that people would have cared it was probably more fun to shoot.

I guess you missed the part of the 80s that I grew up in then. Your loss. Maze War was a big deal in exactly the same way punk rock and the goth scene weren't.

But then you're the same guy who thought id invented the FPS.

Forgot to look closer at this one before...


I find that hard to believe...

You know Wolfenstein 3D is only 20 years old, right?

Nice try at sarcasm, but your ignorance is telling. Those were both 70s trends turned on their heads and bled to death by capitalism in the proceeding decade.

Your point was an uninformed attempt at discrediting someone who's old enough to realize CCP have bitten off more than they can chew.

Next time, do your homework first.

10mb down / 1mb up.

My avarage ping to game servers across several games is around 150ms.

This is enough to make me play on PC without much problems, i still get decent kill ratios and can be competitive on PC shooters.

The last shooter I got was Red Orchestra 2 on the steam sale, runs as a charm and I can see from my results that i am above average in performance, wich is good to see that my connection isnt being a major issue while playing.

In Dust514 several times i shoot point blank on other players and not 1 shot registers from an entire clip, sometimes the target isnt even transverally moving, then I get droped in like 3-4 shots wich is..... fustrating.

p.s. not using militia gear.

I'd never even thought of this!!!??!!

It turns out that bouncing dropships, overpowered remote explosives, poor graphics and rampant spawn camping are all down to my sub-par internet connection.

I think connection speed is no where near as import as them darn Yankees showing up in euro games. I don't see how you can ever get around latency in an FPS. (no problem with Americans, just their ping vs my ping).

Anyone got upload > download?
Someone with up > down would e nice to hear from. I've heard stories in other games that it makes you godly. And I've seen evidence too (instant improvement in KDR).
This is something which should be tested. (effectively your bullets get to the server faster than the bullets go from the server to you in some games. I believe in Dust if that happens both players would die, but I haves crap connection to mess bout with).

I have top tier internet and the hit detection in this game is terrible. And anyways the lag is not what is causing people to be disappointed in the beta. The gameplay just sucks (vehicle abuse, spawn exploits, OP / overused classes and weapons, etc).

I sadly din't see any technical, meaningful improved on the FPS side for Dust 514.
Maybe I'm too exigent but really I don't have that "everything is fine, it just need to be polished" sensation.

Halo 1 is the last FPS that really brought gameplay improvements/changes, like it or not.

Are we on P2P, dedicated server, or client/server?

I sadly din't see any technical, meaningful improved on the FPS side for Dust 514.
Maybe I'm too exigent but really I don't have that "everything is fine, it just need to be polished" sensation.

Also "conventional FPS" do improve, simply not with expansions like EVE but with sequels.
BF3 is technically better then BF 2; Killzone 2 is technically better then Killzone 1 and IMO still superior to any COD.

There will always be technical improvements deliver under DLC or expansions or new VG entirely.

Gameplay-wise is hard to see meaningful improvements, revolutions.
Halo 1 is the last FPS that really brought gameplay improvements/changes, like it or not.

Halo was 10 years ago the revolution in FPS.
Now it's mroe about consolidating the design and perfect the gampaly but really FPS don't need to be re-invented o...they need new horizons.