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Garrett Blacknova
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Posted - 2012.07.30 05:11:00 -
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Tanksgiving wrote:Unless they delay the launch a minimum of six months, Dust 514 has a high probability of failure. There are better, free MMOs from more experienced teams that are more fun to play (PlanetSide 2, MechWarrior Online, etc.).
A minimum of six months from when? It's only confirmed for 2012 release, not a specific date. If you mean 6 months from now, it could potentially be very close to that.
Next build of the beta is in August, but beyond that, we don't know much about what's happening and when. Except that there are a LOT of changes (mostly good ones) coming SOONGäó.
Also keep in mind we're currently playing a build that's more than a month behind what the devs have been doing. |
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Posted - 2012.07.30 06:12:00 -
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Tanksgiving wrote:Keep in mind most of the numbskulls on this forum shouting beta are clueless when it comes to software development.
Yourself included, I take it? |
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Posted - 2012.07.31 11:15:00 -
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Forgot to look closer at this one before...
Tanksgiving wrote:I've been playing first person shooters for twenty five years.
I find that hard to believe...
You know Wolfenstein 3D is only 20 years old, right?
What were you playing before then? |
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Posted - 2012.07.31 11:48:00 -
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Just Bad wrote:MIDI Maze maybe? That was '87.
There are a few from before then (I think there may even be a couple older than I am), but they were never popular, so meeting someone who played any of them is a bit of a novelty. |
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Posted - 2012.07.31 14:29:00 -
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Tanksgiving wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Just Bad wrote:MIDI Maze maybe? That was '87. There are a few from before then (I think there may even be a couple older than I am), but they were never popular, so meeting someone who played any of them is a bit of a novelty. Never popular?? Maze War was a really big deal back in the 80s.
I guess you missed the part of the 80s that I grew up in then. Your loss. Maze War was a big deal in exactly the same way punk rock and the goth scene weren't.
Quote:But then you're the same guy who thought id invented the FPS.
Source? I don't remember that happening... ever... I referenced the first FPS that actually became a big enough name to be remembered a decade later by the mainstream, and it happened to be an id product, but I never said it was first. I was actually curious which game(s) you played before then. |
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Posted - 2012.07.31 15:21:00 -
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Tanksgiving wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:I guess you missed the part of the 80s that I grew up in then. Your loss. Maze War was a big deal in exactly the same way punk rock and the goth scene weren't. Nice try at sarcasm, but your ignorance is telling. Those were both 70s trends turned on their heads and bled to death by capitalism in the proceeding decade.
And yet the truth behind both concepts, as well as the styles of both music and dress, were still more popular in the 80s than FPS gaming... Which was my point.
Although I guess you forgot to think through the possibility that someone younger than you might actually have a point, and disregarded what I said on that basis alone. |
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Posted - 2012.07.31 15:56:00 -
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Tanksgiving wrote:Your point was an uninformed attempt at discrediting someone who's old enough to realize CCP have bitten off more than they can chew.
Next time, do your homework first.
No, my ACTUAL point (made in the earlier post before this one) was that the devs have already been showing a LOT more improvement from one build to the next than most developers do during beta, so your expectations, while reasonable, may be underestimating what CCP are capable of, and even if you're right, the continuation of iterative development post-release will mean the game continues to improve, unlike most conventional FPS games.
The whole thing about your FPS experience was a side-note taken form a less serious comment, which you blew out of proportion with an overly-agressive response.
But it was fun, wasn't it? |
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Posted - 2012.08.01 02:32:00 -
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Templar Two wrote:I sadly din't see any technical, meaningful improved on the FPS side for Dust 514.
Maybe I'm too exigent but really I don't have that "everything is fine, it just need to be polished" sensation.
Also "conventional FPS" do improve, simply not with expansions like EVE but with sequels.
BF3 is technically better then BF 2; Killzone 2 is technically better then Killzone 1 and IMO still superior to any COD.
There will always be technical improvements deliver under DLC or expansions or new VG entirely.
Gameplay-wise is hard to see meaningful improvements, revolutions.
Halo 1 is the last FPS that really brought gameplay improvements/changes, like it or not.
Halo was 10 years ago the revolution in FPS.
Now it's mroe about consolidating the design and perfect the gampaly but really FPS don't need to be re-invented o...they need new horizons.
Sequels aren't improvement to the same game you're already playing though. You have to go out and buy them separately.
Picking up DUST on release, then coming back to it 3 years down the track is like if you could go into ANY store with your copy of the original Call of Duty and get them to swap it at no extra charge for Black Ops or your choice of Modern Warfare game.
Since they DON'T do that, it's NOT improvement on the same game, it's charging buckets of money for what may as well be a re-release of the game people already paid you a bucketload of money for.
And I'm pretty sure EVE has changed more in the same timeframe than Halo. |
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