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Th3rdSun
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Posted - 2012.07.29 22:50:00 -
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First let me say that this isn't in any way intended to be a troll thread.I just would like to know a little information that could help get to the bottom of why people are having trouble playing this beta.
So the question is,what is your internet speed?
No need to go into elaborate commentary or anything,I just want to see if low internet speeds coincide with bad player experiences such as lag,bad hit detection,unresponsive controls,etc.
While i have occassional lag,frame skipping,and bad hit detection at times,most of the time I run fairly well.
My local speed is 20-25 mbps down,and 4-4.5 mbps up.
I don't know exactly where the game's US server is located,though I heard it's somewhere outside of Dallas,so I can't get an accurate test from the game's server.BTW,if anyone does know for sure were the US server is,let us know so we can run a speed/ping test to it.
Hopefully,with some honest reporting from frustrated players,we can at least narrow down or rule out some of the variables that make is hard to play for some of us,and not so bad for others.
And again,please this is strictly a data collecting thread,and not intended to spark any trolling and or flaming.
Thanks.
Edit:after reading one of the other posts,provide your ping,and also,which may,or may not be more important,list what kind of internet you are running.
I have Comcast cable internet,which runs 1000x better than the crappy AT&T DSL that I use to have. |
Th3rdSun
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Posted - 2012.07.29 23:16:00 -
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frfqq wrote:I have top tier internet and the hit detection in this game is terrible. And anyways the lag is not what is causing people to be disappointed in the beta. The gameplay just sucks (vehicle abuse, spawn exploits, OP / overused classes and weapons, etc).
What is "top tier"?
What is the actual speed,and not the speed that you are paying for,but the speed that you are actually getting? |
Th3rdSun
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Posted - 2012.07.29 23:58:00 -
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Dillan NightStorm wrote:Can I just say the question from the OP isn't relevant to anything to do with bad game play.
You can have a 1Mb connection and still play this game as well as a person with 100Mb. The size of your broadband only allows you to download large files faster it doesn't mean you have a better connection to a game server.
The amount of data sent back and forth from the internet for game play is minor and to be honest as a Virgin Media Technical support rep I can say that the quality of game play has nothing to do with the size of your download.
Now if you were to ask whats your ping to the server? or what is the Packet Delay Variance on your ISP like? those would be the more pertinent questions.
Thank you for your insight.This is the type of information that is needed to make a more scientific analysis for those with problems of gameplay.
Not saying that you are wrong,but so far,it seems like those that have posted lower numbers are having more trouble that those of use with faster connections.
I remember listening to a podcast from the devs of Homefront,and one of the lead guys for the game claimed that for games that run on a dedicated server,the most important thing on the gamer's side was their upload speed.I don't know if that's true or not,but that was coming from a guy that works on online gaming for a living. |
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Posted - 2012.07.30 00:42:00 -
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Ragin DaCajun wrote:Th3rdSun wrote:
My local speed is 20-25 mbps down,and 4-4.5 mbps up.
I don't know exactly where the game's US server is located,though I heard it's somewhere outside of Dallas,so I can't get an accurate test from the game's server.BTW,if anyone does know for sure were the US server is,let us know so we can run a speed/ping test to it.
Hopefully,with some honest reporting from frustrated players,we can at least narrow down or rule out some of the variables that make is hard to play for some of us,and not so bad for others.
And again,please this is strictly a data collecting thread,and not intended to spark any trolling and or flaming.
Thanks.
Try reading the stickies sometimes, the actual server IP addresses have been posted for a long time you just have to ping it to see what your latency is and btw your internet speed has less to do with lag than your ping does. You can have the fastest speed but if your ping(latency) is bad you will lag like crazy. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=postmessage&t=18627&f=729&q=114040Forums Veteran wrote:Hi guys, I've noticed a few requests for how to find out ping/latency to our servers. You can ping the below IPs to work out network performance & routes to our battle servers  I'll keep this list up to date if we add or change locations. [US] - 173.193.23.235 [EU] - 159.253.143.196 [Asia] - 216.12.196.114 - Mindstar Edit: 26/7/2012 - added Asia site IP How to ping from you PC: Go to Start > Run and type cmd. You can also search for cmd.exe in the Windows Search function. Press OK to launch Windows Command Type the word Ping then the IP address ( ie. Ping 173.193.23.235) hit Enter to see your ping output. I get a 62ms ping on the US server which is damn good but I still get lag in this game but probably not as much as other people.
Yeah,I do neglect to read the stickiest,so thanks for that link.
Also,I'm almost certain that you can't have a slow as snails up and down,and have a super low(under 20ms)ping. I just don't see how that's even possible,but then again,I'm more than few credits shy of my computer science degree,so....
So I just ran it,and it came back as follows:
Packets sent:4
Packets received:4
Packets lost:0
Minimum:44ms
Maximum:47ms
Average:46ms
Doesn't look all that bad to me.
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Posted - 2012.07.30 02:54:00 -
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Darkz azurr wrote:i have 4mb broadband - from England
eu server gave me 41ms average
us server gave me 140ms average
asia server gave me 383ms average
I just tested the EU and Asian servers.
EU average was 114 ms
Asia average was 267
So with my faster DL speed,I got a faster ping.
Call me crazy,but I think there's a definite relation to your DL and UL speeds and your ping.
It's like having a sports car that has a large motor vs a small motor.Sure you can squeeze out a relatively good amount of horsepower out of a four cylinder,but there's a lot of work and modification to make it that way.All eight cylinder sports cars are made to go fast right out the box.You have to have the motor to put out the horsepower.
So in essence,my comparison would be that DSL is like a Volkswagen GTI(4 cylinder smaller motor=slower speed.Lower horsepower=higher ping) ,and Cable internet is like a Corvette(8 cylinder bigger motor=faster speed.Higher horsepower=lower ping). |
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Posted - 2012.07.30 04:44:00 -
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Abner Kalen wrote:frfqq wrote:I have top tier internet and the hit detection in this game is terrible. And anyways the lag is not what is causing people to be disappointed in the beta. The gameplay just sucks (vehicle abuse, spawn exploits, OP / overused classes and weapons, etc). I would have to agree. I have great internet and haven't experienced any lag, but I have often found myself trying to shoot a scout suit who side-steps in circles around me and even though I AM CONNECTING my top-tier CreoDron Breech does minimal damage to his shields and he's able to whittle me down with his SMG. Same goes for dropships sitting perched on the command ship, or on top of the towers, etc. Being able to quickly throw down and detonate remote explosives with power greater than grenades. Things that just are strange gameplay. Hell things might be better if I was confident that my weapon was hitting the target correctly, and that they had some sort of aim-assist like other more established shooters that I love to play. They are established and FUN for a reason. Gears of War, Halo, Call of Duty, Battlefield 3. Say what you want about them, they are our competition and the core gameplay mechanics should strive to match or better the competition. Thankfully it's still a BETA, which I tell everyone that I've gotten to purchase the $20 merc pack or give extra game codes to. I just thought that these gameplay issues would already be figured out by now, and that they'd be working on things like the graphics and making really cool environments. But since this is an ever-evolving, constantly iterated on game, I'm really excited for Dust's future.
So with all of that,what is your speeds?Simple question really.Provide hard numbers,not just "I have great internet".
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Posted - 2012.07.31 12:15:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Forgot to look closer at this one before... Tanksgiving wrote:I've been playing first person shooters for twenty five years. I find that hard to believe... You know Wolfenstein 3D is only 20 years old, right? What were you playing before then?
I was going to point this out too,but I didn't want to pay any attention to someone that completely hijacked this thread and can't respond to the original question that I asked. |
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