Us heavy users are supposed to be able to take on a freaking tank! Make it reflect that, make the cost of our equipment higher and in return give us our lead-spraying mini-guns, our armor that makes it that we aren't dead in seconds. When people see a heavy dropsuit jump fall from the sky, they should be running like hell, not laugh. Also, the default heavy class is unplayable against infantry, the pistol does not suffice damage-wise.

Maybe a Heavy Laser Weapon is coming? That would be awesome!

Heavies never asked for OP suit or gun we just need a reasonable gun we can fight with, i agree heavies shouldn't fire bullets without limit and hence the overheating but its broken at the moment. Let me give you a situation all heavies with HMG encounter and hates:
Am as a heavy in a fight vs assault/scout in CQC we are hitting each other he starts to straf my bullets start to scatter as i struggle following him because of the turning speed but still i manage to drop his shield and most of his armor and just before i kill him my HMG overheat and stop! he reloads and finish me off as he pulls back away from my killzone, this has been the scenario in countless encounter in this build.
The gun overheat before it can deliver a reasonable amount damage and that due to heavily reduced bullets damage adding the slow turning speed of the heavy dropsuit all this rendered the heavy class useless/worthless.

I'm still getting killed by this combination more than I can kill them, if your gun over heats just switch to sidearm like most people I meet you still win, but the hmg still drops me more often than not.

I do switch to my Sidearm but sometimes its too late (current weapon switch is slow) not to mention my Sidearm is too weak to compete against upgraded AR or SMG because i spend million of SP on my HMG which suppose to kill the guy without needing my Sidearm.
You must be unlucky guy if you are being killed a lot by heavies, a piece of advice from a heavy user: Don't ever stay still in front of a heavy try to move left and right all the time or get behind him.

I personally suggest an increase in DPS for the HMG to where it outperforms every other weapon in close range while remaining very bad at long range (due to the reticule having to close) and lackluster at medium. Unless the HMG is king at close range, it does not have a purpose in your game.

I dont want to be difficult but wouldn't this get the shotgun users on the war path moaning about how the hmg took there close quater role away.

Seems there is no solution to make every one happy at the moment

I dont want to be difficult but wouldn't this get the shotgun users on the war path moaning about how the hmg took there close quater role away.

Seems there is no solution to make every one happy at the moment

Heavies in the current build are OP!
They make the assault dropsuit pointless!
Heavy has too much health!

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OMFG! are we playing the same game here seriously, guys if you are having a problem killing a heavy in this build then you are doing something wrong. If you played against the heavy in the last build i think you would quite this game the heavy was nerfed in every aspect making it the weakest class in this build, our weapons can't do the required damage, the overheating rate is so damn fast and the turning speed is slow to the point you can get behind us in a sec and kill us before we could turn.

guys please before judging the heavy try it then you will feel our pain its not funny being dropped by militia suit/gun in CQC.

A shotgun is a X2 skill not a X3 and uses X2 supports, costs less ISk, and you can mount it on a scout or assault and not the ever-so-slow heavy. A heavy can't turn fast so a shotty would still be superior in super-close range. I'm talking about short range like 5-10 meters or so, not in your face stuff.

Then you get the smg clan on the war path, see where it ends up you can't realy win.
heavys should be anti armour not a jack of all trades

Frack, why do I think that there are many looking for an " I win " button.

Remote explosives, grenades, and decent snipers make short work of the Heavy dropsuit.

If you are concerned that you are fighting a scout, breach SMG fit at close range and are not winning win most of the time, then you might need to take a lesson from the capsuleers: "only fight someone on the ground where you have an advantage".

A BC caught in the open alone by a dramiel is more than likely going to get sploded. =)

I'm not a heavy player, I've stuck to mainly assault since the start. That said, i very rarely see anyone using a HMG anymore, they're pretty much on the same level as a mass driver, definitely lower than a sniper rifle and absolutely nowhere near a forge gun, which every heavy should have switched to nowadays (along with an SMG for anti-dude stuff).

It's frustrating as, dispite Darky Si's OP, the HMG was never actually overpowered at all. If an assault encountered a heavy and tried to engage at medium range (or close range if they couldn't dance) they would die and that was that. This upset a lot of people, seemingly unaware that they were actually idiots.

Their idiocy however was becoming fairly obvious the further the last build progressed and we saw the endgame full prototype assaults with Creodron AR's take out heavies with ease, from long range by utilising cover w/ ADS and close range by out strafing them (now fairly obsolete). Mid-range being the HMG's only decent killzone, requiring cunning ambushes by the heavy to apply the damage before the target would just sprint away or close the gap and blow their brains out while the heavy had a seizure trying to turn around. Just how easy it was for an assault to dispatch a Heavy HMG user was only amplified by a scout.

Bearing in mind, this was before the nerf.

I say all this, as it's concerning to see the constant "X is overpowered", "Nerf Y" threads. People encounter a new thing, whine that it's overpowered, learn how to counter it and then CCP, being fashionably late to the party, second guesses themselves and nerfs it into the ground making it no longer viable. We're already seeing the river of tears run again with marauders, it'll be interesting to see whether we see them nerfed into the abyss as well.

god if they nerf maraudrs I will be pissed. I dont even like them but they need a good counter not a nerf which as I see it is what this thread is about.