7 straight maps and matches ruined by guys with myos. Combined with the latino lag its been the worst day on here that actually found matches to play in. In all honesty the game was better without biotics at all . It was a gun game then.

Right now heavies don't even have a real role because of REs working like grenades on myo fit scrubs.
Every CQC map is now dominated by Mintards with plasma cannons/flaylocks/massdrivers and myos.
When you can kill anyone in the game with one shot from a PC or a melee hit WTF. Nowonder they run it. Who needs to aim???
If I wanted to play Destiny I would play Destiny.....and this game makes for a poorly designed copy of that game.

I just hope Rat man can get past his personal need to crutch the myos and actually fix the biotic family in general. I log on to play a gun game not Mario Bothers or Duck Hunt. This game was not designed for that style of play and the fact that more and more players are having to adapt to some form of heavy biotic use over other modules shows the issue.

Out of 27 deaths in 7 matches (which alone is a high number!!!!) only 4 were actual rifles or sidearms. 2 more from shotguns (both on jumpy scouts), a really good (but unfortunate for me) rail gun installation shot, and the rest are explosive weapons or melee of some sort. REs, core locus, punches (!!!) and plasma canons/MDs should not be the primary killers on this game.

I am sure I am not the only person wanting to play an actual FPS game on here and not the dreg this game has become since it became BIOTIC/EXPLOSIVES 514.

Screw the 20 people that liked this thread. All of you are idiots that obviously need to train your gun game.

Yes I'm well aware I like this thread too, but that's because I can't help it.

It's not a matter of gun game or spatial awareness. It's a matter of it simply being unhealthy for the game.

There is no way it is unhealthy for the game, in fact it provides a new aspect to the game.

Introduction of a 'new aspect' is not necessarily beneficial.

I've explained my point of view and will say again that this game has never been less enjoyable than it is now. Infantry jumping to high grounds to camp/farm kills or using it to exploit poor hit detection is simply not enjoyable to me.

I came to Dust 514 to play a science fiction simulation not Super Mario Sunshine.

I still trying to find the best way to both sides.
And i basicaly do not have anythig what can be succesfull.
Ergo im out for now and we will see if someone will bring something what will balance this situation.

And you think that in the future scientists wouldn't figure out how to make soldier's leg muscles more powerful?

Screw the 20 people that liked this thread. All of you are idiots that obviously need to train your gun game.

Yes I'm well aware I like this thread too, but that's because I can't help it.

You like most of these scrubs talking are bad at Dust. Myos need seperation from the current jump / melee crutch that has been created. Vertical movement while cloaked combined with the ability to melee 800+ hp with 1 strike while still cloaked is for people without gungame. Best example is Romulus. He gets 20 or 30 kills a game without using a gun, and yet if he were to use a gun like most of this breed they get wrecked.

The problem is that myos have both melee and jump. These mods fit the high side, they dont cost much. This allows the Gal Assault for example to triple stack myos, then go to the low side throw on a damp, kin kat for speed, cardiac reg for all your stamina needs and still have 2 slots for whatever, usually tank. Now you are on the bridge fighting from Alpha to Delta. Fast jumpy fit gets the flank thanks to those low mods, and has your six. Are you telling me HONESTLY that the kills he will get in that position are equal in ANYWAY to the same kills a nova knife or shotgun would get? Wheres the reload? The sound vs shotty? The ability to by pass radar as you come in vertically, landing on targets and dispatching them faster than NK can charge?

I have not even gotten to the TTK aspect. 1 melee vs half my clip in cqc.

Then there is the direct advantage of high ground. No you can NOT put a flux anywhere I can jump too. This is either a statement of ignorance or a lie. There is a direct relationship to being able to seize highground and control it and winning. If everyone has to get in a DS and fly it is even steven, but when 1 team can jump into those positions and the other can not it is a distinct advantage . I have also noticed how this leads to faster AV platorms being setup. Less combat for those positions. And less role for DS to perform. Why fly when you can hop.

The next issue is server stability. Does jumping alot affect this? YES!! What about when said jumper is lagging, i.e. Mexico City is always a good example.

How is it ok that a guy in front of me can jump 180 degrees behind faster then my controls allow me to turn.?

Many of these jump failures use it when gun are owning them. Think about that implication.

Lastly JUMPING IS FUN. But it needs balance and impartial vets who want a great SHOOTER.

You forgot to mention that melee is very glitchy and many times it will not even register damage because you know what its range is. 0.5 METERS. 0.5.

And you say I'm bad, but I wreck most people with just my starter fits, never mind if I get my proto out. So next time you want to say I'm bad, say it to my face in your officer assault, and I'll be sure to bring my recon suit, because I don't need proto to kill you.

Im not going back and forth. But any merc that NEEDS melee/jump to beat my gun is by definition bad at SHOOTING. If you dont need it then it doesnt apply. Stop jump melee for a week see what happens to your stats? If they go up im wrong, if they go down you NEEDED it. For the record I NEVER run officer gear, never have except in PC and then it was HMGs

That is not true at all. First of all, I'm not skilled into myos at all nor have I ever used one post-buff. I can tell you that people who melee do it because it is hard and they need a challenge. I myself find melee helpful for when I get an enemy down to low health and I ran out of bullets in my submachine gun or ion pistol.

I get quite a substantial amount of melee kills without modifiers, so don't group me into the myo group.

Melee FTW! One of my favorite parts of a Commando suit is the higher than normal melee damage, using myos to boost it up both gives me a very close range anti-sentinel weapon (which only sometimes works) and a tool to position myself to provide good overwatch, or the ability to jump over someone's head to get behind them, or around them.

My favorite challenge is shotgun scouts...I like to try to punch them before they kill me with their shotgun, its always been a challenge, but it is so much fun when I pull it off.

7 straight maps and matches ruined by guys with myos. Combined with the latino lag its been the worst day on here that actually found matches to play in. In all honesty the game was better without biotics at all . It was a gun game then.

Right now heavies don't even have a real role because of REs working like grenades on myo fit scrubs.
Every CQC map is now dominated by Mintards with plasma cannons/flaylocks/massdrivers and myos.
When you can kill anyone in the game with one shot from a PC or a melee hit WTF. Nowonder they run it. Who needs to aim???
If I wanted to play Destiny I would play Destiny.....and this game makes for a poorly designed copy of that game.

I just hope Rat man can get past his personal need to crutch the myos and actually fix the biotic family in general. I log on to play a gun game not Mario Bothers or Duck Hunt. This game was not designed for that style of play and the fact that more and more players are having to adapt to some form of heavy biotic use over other modules shows the issue.

Out of 27 deaths in 7 matches (which alone is a high number!!!!) only 4 were actual rifles or sidearms. 2 more from shotguns (both on jumpy scouts), a really good (but unfortunate for me) rail gun installation shot, and the rest are explosive weapons or melee of some sort. REs, core locus, punches (!!!) and plasma canons/MDs should not be the primary killers on this game.

I am sure I am not the only person wanting to play an actual FPS game on here and not the dreg this game has become since it became BIOTIC/EXPLOSIVES 514.

Infinite Stupidity. This fine specimen of mental delusion. The amount of "love-letters" this guy has sent me is rediculous. I have even seen him jumping around with a mass driver recently and trying to get melee kills... It was a sad sight because he ended up leaving battle (As always) after his "melee/jumping" was destroyed. Oh, it's so easy to run a paper thin suit and get skeet shot out of the sky every-time you want to jump over a 2 inch curb that would completely stop your movement.. People really fail to bring up the negative side of being forced to jump at your maximum height when they want to go around knocking blocks off.

Next, Infinite Stupidity.... you have NEVER TAKEN 1 MELEE HIT AND DIED FROM ME... you always stack so much HP, has always taken at least 2-3 punches (if they even land, which i have to get within a meters distance to achieve)

He actually has the audacity to carry around a rifle that can EASILY terminate a clone from 80m-0m, then go around and complain when you got knocked out?

Oh, then he goes and catches my Plasma Cannon rounds and says I have no AIM :[

That could be true, you might just be the best wide-reciever out there :]

yeah that plc is lovely, I like (and use) jmpy plc gal assault, I just hate those nogungamefaggots like magomed with mass drivers and core nades

You like most of these scrubs talking are bad at Dust. Myos need seperation from the current jump / melee crutch that has been created. Vertical movement while cloaked combined with the ability to melee 800+ hp with 1 strike while still cloaked is for people without gungame. Best example is Romulus. He gets 20 or 30 kills a game without using a gun, and yet if he were to use a gun like most of this breed they get wrecked.

I have played against Romulus Hex many times and he is plenty capable of destroying most of the players in this game even without the melee or myofibs.

You must not be familiar with the accuracy Romulus has with the Plasma Cannon.

Introduction of a 'new aspect' is not necessarily beneficial.

I've explained my point of view and will say again that this game has never been less enjoyable than it is now. Infantry jumping to high grounds to camp/farm kills or using it to exploit poor hit detection is simply not enjoyable to me.

I came to Dust 514 to play a science fiction simulation not Super Mario Sunshine.

Myos are op in the fact that they should be on the low side or shouldn't have dual capabilities...it is way to easy to speed tank and regulate...it having a dual boost is bullshit....but they r really fun to run BUT IT IS BROKE

Adapt and overcome

Spoken like a hopper