Point being camped by heavys with reps?
Ppl spawning on an out of the way link?
Did someone spawn on the link u tried to smash?
Or is it a rabbit hole only 2 ways in map?
One Punch MandoMan is here!
He takes the hvys out with one punch!
He jumps to punch the uplink up high.
He just spawn killed ur ass
Hurrah!!
So when the enemy has the point
And nothing seems to get them out,
Blow up the REs u just placed
Hurrah!

Dont know why I did but I did.n it really is fun
To jump around n try to punch someone in Proto. Which is why I believe
They are fine. Honestly with so many other things wrong
Why complain about one things that ppl use.

I dont like how someone can hack the point in 1 second,
How everyone and their mom uses Proto for a Public match,
Or how NO ONE wants to let an Lav just drive around n mess with ppl

But that's the game and it makes it different. So lets ***** about something that needs fixed...like Proto in pubs :D
Jk

Or...if the commando had a setup like this:
Commando Ck.0
2x Complex Myofib
1x Advanced Myofib
2x Complex Profile Damps
1x ARR
1x SR
1x Cloak Field

...ok...it kinda sucks, but it's hilarious for getting into a point an causing trouble...particularly if the defenders don't have Logi or Scouts around for passive scans xD

I view Myofibral Modules as unhealthy for the game as opposed to unbalanced/unfair. They simply reinforce how unbalanced verticality is in this game.

Players are able to get to areas they shouldn't be able to tossing grenades and firing wildly with weapons that should have enough force to toss them back through the air when fired.

Moreover it allows the placement of uplinks and equipment in areas that are otherwise impossible for the common infantryman to get to due to the glaring lack of logically placed maintenance stair wells and elevators.

That and like you said, one suicide scrub who can throw REs like grenades negates an entire role. You can't hold any of the great CQC sockets anymore without some loyalty suit scrub blowing up half your team with an RE that in any other game would take 3 seconds to place. Combine that with myos and its damn near impossible to keep killing them time after time. This game is supposed to be tactical, but instead its just explosives which require very little tactical play. Honestly REs are another area that needs to be address. 3second place time keeps scrubs from suicide runs that OHK heavies. It pretty ****** to have some no gun game scrub run into a socket 10 times until they finally knock your suit off of you. It is also not very tactical because there is no counter play. Sooner of later they get lucky and you get blown up. Worse when multiple are doing it.

That and I was not aware that an area denial weapon and AV weapon were supposed to be on par with the racial rifles!!!!!
Those weapons are niche weapons like a sniper rifle. They are not meant to even with actual rifles on the field. Why would that guy even think that. Never in any game or the real world is an AV weapon supposed to be consistently dueling a main line rifle and winning.

There are so many advantages to running them its surprising everyone does not. Since you can still be 850+ HP like some other scrubs who posted earlier you are not even giving up eHP.

So we all need to be wearing HMGs all the time??? Let me tell you when the mando jumps over the wall behind you and punches you for 1300 DMG you don't have time to eat through the 900 HP he has. Its one punch and its BULLSHIT. Risk and reward are the basis for this game. There is no risk in being tanky, mobile, and having the ability to carry 3 OHK weapons/equipment/melee on you. Not to mention you can also have the MD as back up if you want.

Most of us want to play a tactical SHOOTER. There is nothing tactical about myos right now. They are just EZ mode for kids with no aim or ability to actually move tactically. They don't need to. They carry the firepower, suppression, cover, and escapes with them.

I say no to the inability to draw your weapon while in a jump. If CCP implemented that they would most likely apply to all jumps regardless of whether or not you have a myofib equipped.

If you think that can be issue, why not to make accuracy nerf.

But honestly and first of all, there is still need for hitdetection fix.
Because i see that as the major issue around myos.
I saw many times paper suit what do not take damage when jump around.

I do not talking about dispersion of bullets.
I talking here about accuracy of aiming.

PLC can't have dispersion... It needs to be as precise as possible for AV.

I jump n shoot my Plasma Cann, without mylolflys. I use the jump to make up for angle whenever aiming higher is not a good idea (under building for example.

If that had dispersion, I'm sure it's mid-long range accuracy would go from poor, to extremely poor.

The problem is that people are able to jump in a direction so quickly people can't look in the direction to track and shoot them. That with a weapon utilizing high splash damage means jumpy scrub hurt you, you can't visually follow scrub to shoot them.

Frogs are abusing a mechanic to their advantage and the only argument out of their mouths is get gun game.

Nobody complained about myos until they were all super jump mods.

It's not a matter of gun game or spatial awareness. It's a matter of it simply being unhealthy for the game.

Introduction of a 'new aspect' is not necessarily beneficial.

I've explained my point of view and will say again that this game has never been less enjoyable than it is now. Infantry jumping to high grounds to camp/farm kills or using it to exploit poor hit detection is simply not enjoyable to me.

I came to Dust 514 to play a science fiction simulation not Super Mario Sunshine.

You like most of these scrubs talking are bad at Dust. Myos need seperation from the current jump / melee crutch that has been created. Vertical movement while cloaked combined with the ability to melee 800+ hp with 1 strike while still cloaked is for people without gungame. Best example is Romulus. He gets 20 or 30 kills a game without using a gun, and yet if he were to use a gun like most of this breed they get wrecked.

The problem is that myos have both melee and jump. These mods fit the high side, they dont cost much. This allows the Gal Assault for example to triple stack myos, then go to the low side throw on a damp, kin kat for speed, cardiac reg for all your stamina needs and still have 2 slots for whatever, usually tank. Now you are on the bridge fighting from Alpha to Delta. Fast jumpy fit gets the flank thanks to those low mods, and has your six. Are you telling me HONESTLY that the kills he will get in that position are equal in ANYWAY to the same kills a nova knife or shotgun would get? Wheres the reload? The sound vs shotty? The ability to by pass radar as you come in vertically, landing on targets and dispatching them faster than NK can charge?

I have not even gotten to the TTK aspect. 1 melee vs half my clip in cqc.

Then there is the direct advantage of high ground. No you can NOT put a flux anywhere I can jump too. This is either a statement of ignorance or a lie. There is a direct relationship to being able to seize highground and control it and winning. If everyone has to get in a DS and fly it is even steven, but when 1 team can jump into those positions and the other can not it is a distinct advantage . I have also noticed how this leads to faster AV platorms being setup. Less combat for those positions. And less role for DS to perform. Why fly when you can hop.

The next issue is server stability. Does jumping alot affect this? YES!! What about when said jumper is lagging, i.e. Mexico City is always a good example.

How is it ok that a guy in front of me can jump 180 degrees behind faster then my controls allow me to turn.?

Many of these jump failures use it when gun are owning them. Think about that implication.

Lastly JUMPING IS FUN. But it needs balance and impartial vets who want a great SHOOTER.

Im not going back and forth. But any merc that NEEDS melee/jump to beat my gun is by definition bad at SHOOTING. If you dont need it then it doesnt apply. Stop jump melee for a week see what happens to your stats? If they go up im wrong, if they go down you NEEDED it. For the record I NEVER run officer gear, never have except in PC and then it was HMGs

Melee FTW! One of my favorite parts of a Commando suit is the higher than normal melee damage, using myos to boost it up both gives me a very close range anti-sentinel weapon (which only sometimes works) and a tool to position myself to provide good overwatch, or the ability to jump over someone's head to get behind them, or around them.

My favorite challenge is shotgun scouts...I like to try to punch them before they kill me with their shotgun, its always been a challenge, but it is so much fun when I pull it off.

Infinite Stupidity. This fine specimen of mental delusion. The amount of "love-letters" this guy has sent me is rediculous. I have even seen him jumping around with a mass driver recently and trying to get melee kills... It was a sad sight because he ended up leaving battle (As always) after his "melee/jumping" was destroyed. Oh, it's so easy to run a paper thin suit and get skeet shot out of the sky every-time you want to jump over a 2 inch curb that would completely stop your movement.. People really fail to bring up the negative side of being forced to jump at your maximum height when they want to go around knocking blocks off.

Next, Infinite Stupidity.... you have NEVER TAKEN 1 MELEE HIT AND DIED FROM ME... you always stack so much HP, has always taken at least 2-3 punches (if they even land, which i have to get within a meters distance to achieve)

He actually has the audacity to carry around a rifle that can EASILY terminate a clone from 80m-0m, then go around and complain when you got knocked out?

Myos are op in the fact that they should be on the low side or shouldn't have dual capabilities...it is way to easy to speed tank and regulate...it having a dual boost is bullshit....but they r really fun to run BUT IT IS BROKE

Spoken like a hopper

A charge jump, that takes twice as much stamina to get the max height.

To do the same percentage of jumps at the same amplitude, 2 complex cardiacs will be essential.

Combined with a rotational sensitivity increase...

Who knows... maybe this is a contributing factor to why there is so much SILENCE FROM CCP ABOUT 1.3...

It is quite controversial, you know?

*looks for calAssault*
*realizes that regs >>>>>> myos*
*sees calAss isn't in list*

How easy would it be to shield tank exactly??

I like to think honest and straightforward, but to each his own.

Oh the irony.

1000+ total HP fit is possible on a triple myo modded Proto Min or Calmando, if you use both the low slots for armor plates rather than any biotics. 961 hp with a Complex Cardiac and Plate on a Proto Calmando.

(remember, base HP before skills on Commandos are 620, 650, and 680. 775, 812.5, and 850 with skills)

So if you fit Armor instead of biotics...the estimate of HP by BARAGAMOS isn't too far off.

(Although, for melee Commando suits, you typically want a Cardiac and KinCat)

You realize the base suit has 775 before you even add a ferroscale right?