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True Adamance
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Posted - 2016.01.25 02:19:00 -
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BARAGAMOS wrote:7 straight maps and matches ruined by guys with myos. Combined with the latino lag its been the worst day on here that actually found matches to play in. In all honesty the game was better without biotics at all . It was a gun game then.
Right now heavies don't even have a real role because of REs working like grenades on myo fit scrubs.
Every CQC map is now dominated by Mintards with plasma cannons/flaylocks/massdrivers and myos.
When you can kill anyone in the game with one shot from a PC or a melee hit WTF. Nowonder they run it. Who needs to aim???
If I wanted to play Destiny I would play Destiny.....and this game makes for a poorly designed copy of that game.
I just hope Rat man can get past his personal need to crutch the myos and actually fix the biotic family in general. I log on to play a gun game not Mario Bothers or Duck Hunt. This game was not designed for that style of play and the fact that more and more players are having to adapt to some form of heavy biotic use over other modules shows the issue.
Out of 27 deaths in 7 matches (which alone is a high number!!!!) only 4 were actual rifles or sidearms. 2 more from shotguns (both on jumpy scouts), a really good (but unfortunate for me) rail gun installation shot, and the rest are explosive weapons or melee of some sort. REs, core locus, punches (!!!) and plasma canons/MDs should not be the primary killers on this game.
I am sure I am not the only person wanting to play an actual FPS game on here and not the dreg this game has become since it became BIOTIC/EXPLOSIVES 514.
For gun game try CS:GO.
Pokey Dravon wrote:But they're FUN and anything that's fun for the person using it MUST be GREAT for the game! /sarcasm
I don't think there has every been a worse time in the game than when Myo's became a thing. Sure if verticality wasn't already king in almost every circumstance it has become so now.
"That means Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son-of-a-bitch in space."
- Unnamed Gunnery Chief, The Citadel
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Posted - 2016.01.25 20:27:00 -
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Soto Gallente wrote:/puts on protective armor
I honestly don't see anything wrong with myos. I don't have a single suit with myos on them and while the jumping is hard to get used to, it's trained me to get better with my weapon and better with vertical aiming.
Myos have helped my gungame improve, no because I use them, but because other people do.
I view Myofibral Modules as unhealthy for the game as opposed to unbalanced/unfair. They simply reinforce how unbalanced verticality is in this game.
Players are able to get to areas they shouldn't be able to tossing grenades and firing wildly with weapons that should have enough force to toss them back through the air when fired.
Moreover it allows the placement of uplinks and equipment in areas that are otherwise impossible for the common infantryman to get to due to the glaring lack of logically placed maintenance stair wells and elevators.
"That means Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son-of-a-bitch in space."
- Unnamed Gunnery Chief, The Citadel
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Posted - 2016.01.25 20:56:00 -
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Soto Gallente wrote:True Adamance wrote:Soto Gallente wrote:/puts on protective armor
I honestly don't see anything wrong with myos. I don't have a single suit with myos on them and while the jumping is hard to get used to, it's trained me to get better with my weapon and better with vertical aiming.
Myos have helped my gungame improve, no because I use them, but because other people do. I view Myofibral Modules as unhealthy for the game as opposed to unbalanced/unfair. They simply reinforce how unbalanced verticality is in this game. Players are able to get to areas they shouldn't be able to tossing grenades and firing wildly with weapons that should have enough force to toss them back through the air when fired. Moreover it allows the placement of uplinks and equipment in areas that are otherwise impossible for the common infantryman to get to due to the glaring lack of logically placed maintenance stair wells and elevators. To your last point, verticality is a tactic, and it is a playstyle that is easily countered. As to your point about uplinks, they are very easily taken out by flux grenades. There is no place a jumpy uplink placer can get to where I can not take it out with my flux.
I can agree with that.
Taking a position upon the high ground has been a tactic and a staple of warfare of thousands of years. That said what I take issue with is how exclusive those areas really are to dropships and jumpers.
It creates a behaviour where people simply gain the high ground and either hide there unwilling to fight or camp it knowing they are more or less untouchable. That said if all infantry could access those roof tops via elevator or staircase it wouldn't be the safe haven it's become and wouldn't allow people to 'roof top camp'.
It seems whenever I suggest an access elevator or stair case the players of this game throw their arms up in the air or cover their eyes with their hands as if mere idea of a well laid out industrial complex confirming to modern safety standards is insulting to them.
"That means Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son-of-a-bitch in space."
- Unnamed Gunnery Chief, The Citadel
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Posted - 2016.01.25 21:01:00 -
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Apoleon II wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Apoleon II wrote:Actually, destiny is the copy *-* Actualy nonsence. Destiny is completely different style in most aspects ;) Stop oppressing me you racist ape!
Shut up with this crap. You are bloody Amarrian while you are here and letting a Minmatar oppress you is just pathetic. Act like the divinely chosen being you are, right now!
"That means Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son-of-a-bitch in space."
- Unnamed Gunnery Chief, The Citadel
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Posted - 2016.01.26 23:21:00 -
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Soto Gallente wrote:Screw the 20 people that liked this thread. All of you are idiots that obviously need to train your gun game.
Yes I'm well aware I like this thread too, but that's because I can't help it.
It's not a matter of gun game or spatial awareness. It's a matter of it simply being unhealthy for the game.
"That means Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son-of-a-bitch in space."
- Unnamed Gunnery Chief, The Citadel
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Posted - 2016.01.26 23:36:00 -
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Soto Gallente wrote:True Adamance wrote:Soto Gallente wrote:Screw the 20 people that liked this thread. All of you are idiots that obviously need to train your gun game.
Yes I'm well aware I like this thread too, but that's because I can't help it. It's not a matter of gun game or spatial awareness. It's a matter of it simply being unhealthy for the game. There is no way it is unhealthy for the game, in fact it provides a new aspect to the game.
Introduction of a 'new aspect' is not necessarily beneficial.
I've explained my point of view and will say again that this game has never been less enjoyable than it is now. Infantry jumping to high grounds to camp/farm kills or using it to exploit poor hit detection is simply not enjoyable to me.
I came to Dust 514 to play a science fiction simulation not Super Mario Sunshine.
"That means Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son-of-a-bitch in space."
- Unnamed Gunnery Chief, The Citadel
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Posted - 2016.01.27 00:15:00 -
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Soto Gallente wrote:True Adamance wrote:Soto Gallente wrote:True Adamance wrote:Soto Gallente wrote:Screw the 20 people that liked this thread. All of you are idiots that obviously need to train your gun game.
Yes I'm well aware I like this thread too, but that's because I can't help it. It's not a matter of gun game or spatial awareness. It's a matter of it simply being unhealthy for the game. There is no way it is unhealthy for the game, in fact it provides a new aspect to the game. Introduction of a 'new aspect' is not necessarily beneficial. I've explained my point of view and will say again that this game has never been less enjoyable than it is now. Infantry jumping to high grounds to camp/farm kills or using it to exploit poor hit detection is simply not enjoyable to me. I came to Dust 514 to play a science fiction simulation not Super Mario Sunshine. And you think that in the future scientists wouldn't figure out how to make soldier's leg muscles more powerful?
I think that there is only so much they could do the strengthen those muscles of super soldier standing eight and a half feet tall, with a metal skeleton, muscle density beyond anything we could possibly understand, an exoskeleton designed to be worn by them that could weight several hundred kilograms, etc.
Sure you can put those dudes on steroids but you won't see them jumping 10+ meters into the air.... in fact the mere idea of doing so
"That means Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son-of-a-bitch in space."
- Unnamed Gunnery Chief, The Citadel
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Posted - 2016.01.28 21:36:00 -
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ROMULUS H3X wrote:True Adamance wrote:Soto Gallente wrote:True Adamance wrote:Soto Gallente wrote:Screw the 20 people that liked this thread. All of you are idiots that obviously need to train your gun game.
Yes I'm well aware I like this thread too, but that's because I can't help it. It's not a matter of gun game or spatial awareness. It's a matter of it simply being unhealthy for the game. There is no way it is unhealthy for the game, in fact it provides a new aspect to the game. Introduction of a 'new aspect' is not necessarily beneficial. I've explained my point of view and will say again that this game has never been less enjoyable than it is now. Infantry jumping to high grounds to camp/farm kills or using it to exploit poor hit detection is simply not enjoyable to me. I came to Dust 514 to play a science fiction simulation not Super Mario Sunshine. Let us be honest. You dislike myo's because your Tank has a hard time picking on them like normal infantry :]
Honestly I had a hard time shooting anything these days. The hit detection is awful and the frame rates less than idea all because I won't buy an external SSD.
I'll be the first to admit I'm out of practice. I don't tank a lot any more because I don't believe Dust 514's tank combat has any value any longer.
It's not a remotely realistic or particularly well designed experience with some tanks not even able to aim down, driving overt he top of another another, and large railguns not even having an explosive charge or kinetic wave upon impact......
"That means Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son-of-a-bitch in space."
- Unnamed Gunnery Chief, The Citadel
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