Since CCP likes games to be as much like IRL as possible then we should be allowed to use hax to boost our performance.

I should be able to pay to win as countless people do IRL.

I should be able to buy any gun I want and use it when I want.

If it was really like IRL then every single skill should take months if not years to perfect and must require testing for certification.

Lets add a Dust academy where you can ask your crush to prom too.

Or we can agree its a video game.

If you can pay to boost SP you should be able to pay to reallocate it.

Dont preach anything goes gameplay and then tear up about respecing. hypocrites

So the other night i was derailing a thread for no reason

No to hypocrisy. If you can pay to get more sp you should be able to pay to reallocate it.
This is new eden everything goes remember or is it only that way when it better serves your argument?

true, maybe a respec should be allowed, at an appropriately scaled cost of Aur compared to boosters. So, a 7 day 50% booster is what $5 or so, right? and if you play well we're looking at what, 200k experience or so in that time for the average player in hisec? And respeccing would be WAAAAAY faster and easier than a booster... so, what, double the cost? So, $50 per 1 million SP to respec? I'm ok with that, and it would be right in line with the other purchasable items. Great idea.

So wait, let me make sure I'm understanding your right. You are telling me you believe i should have to spend $100 to respec my character? You would actually spend that much money to respec a dust character?

I believe there should be a respec option in dust but it definitely shouldn't cost money. It should be a system similar to MAG in that you can respec but you need to earn the points required to do it again. In a game with such a steep learning curve, everyone has invested skill points into something they didn't want without knowing what they were doing. Why should we have to pay cash money to relocate hard earned skill points if we decide to go a different route?

Say someone decides "hey you know this skill launcher was pretty fun and all, but i have noticed that in the process of using it, i find myself being attracted to men the more i use it, so i would like to respec for AR now." That is a great decision on their part not only for them but also the entire dust community, but if it is some ridiculous amount of money required, said person may decide "nope, it costs too much to respec, so it looks like I'm going to keep spamming my skill launcher liek a BOASSSSSS." At which point several prospective dust players leave because Mr. Back Door Cowboy couldn't respec at a resonable cost.

true, maybe a respec should be allowed, at an appropriately scaled cost of Aur compared to boosters. So, a 7 day 50% booster is what $5 or so, right? and if you play well we're looking at what, 200k experience or so in that time for the average player in hisec? And respeccing would be WAAAAAY faster and easier than a booster... so, what, double the cost? So, $50 per 1 million SP to respec? I'm ok with that, and it would be right in line with the other purchasable items. Great idea.

With such a convoluted and misleading skill tree people are bound to accidentally spec the wrong skill inadvertently. Having to study up on skills is not exactly what most would call fun.

You do realize that once the game goes live, and this 4x exp thing is over, you'll be lucky to get 200k sp a day right??

So wait, let me make sure I'm understanding your right. You are telling me you believe i should have to spend $100 to respec my character? You would actually spend that much money to respec a dust character?

I believe there should be a respec option in dust but it definitely shouldn't cost money. It should be a system similar to MAG in that you can respec but you need to earn the points required to do it again. In a game with such a steep learning curve, everyone has invested skill points into something they didn't want without knowing what they were doing. Why should we have to pay cash money to relocate hard earned skill points if we decide to go a different route?

Say someone decides "hey you know this skill launcher was pretty fun and all, but i have noticed that in the process of using it, i find myself being attracted to men the more i use it, so i would like to respec for AR now." That is a great decision on their part not only for them but also the entire dust community, but if it is some ridiculous amount of money required, said person may decide "nope, it costs too much to respec, so it looks like I'm going to keep spamming my skill launcher liek a BOASSSSSS." At which point several prospective dust players leave because Mr. Back Door Cowboy couldn't respec at a resonable cost.

Well, there is something we can agree on, the skill tree is a mess. If they dont clean it up then this is all moot, the game wont last long enough for any of this to matter. The answer to the terrible neocom UI isnt to allow respecs, the answer is fixing the neocom so it's not a jumbled mess.

Noc, did you forget to type a response or is it in there somewhere with bad formatting and I'm just not catching it?

Noc, did you forget to type a response or is it in there somewhere with bad formatting and I'm just not catching it?

There is a reason CCP hasn't locked this thread yet and its because some of the posts still have some merit based arguments in them.

If you don't want to discuss it, leave it be.

No need to deliberately try to derail the thread just because you don't think the topic is worthy of discussion. You are not the ultimate arbiter of internet topic validity sir.

And u are a class a moron. This thread is 100% pointless. This very thing as been asked for in eve for nearly 9 yrs and hasnt been added yet. What makes noobs from magfag and crying on duty think theya re going to put it in dust. U make urchoice and live with it. Even if 6 months down the road u find out it screwed u over big time u live learn and eal and move on.

And fyi dont change someones post when u quote it. it shows ur age and IQ lv as very low and almost WOW player like.

I was just carrying mylagislegends argument out to it's logical conclusion. And if you want to learn AR after leveling up the launcher, just start learning AR. No respec needed. I dont understand why we would remove the need for SP by allowing respecs, that would completely ruin the entire MMO skill leveling aspect of the game. You want to learn something new, you just start leveling it, that's the entire freaking point. If you dont want to level skills, then dont play dust. Because "I want respecs" and "I dont want to level skills" is the same argument in this game.

Respecs without a prohibitive cost will straight up ruin dust, if you can't see that then you dont understand the game on even the most basic level.

The prohibitive cost is the ability to only respec once in a great while. Respecing will not ruin this game, having to play for 3 weeks straight just to level your character high enough to not get raped by those who already have maxed out characters will.

The prohibitive cost is the ability to only respec once in a great while. Respecing will not ruin this game, having to play for 3 weeks straight just to level your character high enough to not get raped by those who already have maxed out characters will.

How is the neocomm a mess? I mean other then the lagg..

let's see.. you have all your options.. you have sub menus in your menus.. from what I remember here, most of the submenus are in their proper menus.. so how exactly is this a mess? or is it a mess because you have more than 3 items on the menu?

Not to compare, but how is the menu on the left side of the screen, different from the scrolling menu on the bottom of MAG.


I do agree that there needs to be a way to see ALL the skills.. maybe a check box like in eve, where you can select All skills, or all skills available.. that way, you can plan out your skill progression.

...you can respec but you need to earn the points required to do it again.

majority have a problem comprehending this