Eve Universe = who's paying CCP to crank out a free to play shooter for you ungreatfull twits.

Consequences, guess what, they exist everywhere, get over it.

Decisions, how do you think you determine what consequences are headed your way.


As for a respec - does TF2 allow you to put your spy advancement onto your heavy? Does BF2142 let you put the points you earn as a rifleman into your engineer? For that matter, tell me what FPS game does allow a "respec" where you get to take your advancement in one class and apply it to another.........




I'm waiting..........


Still waiting......

MAG let's you respec. You allocate points into a skill tree to specialize in that tree. After a while that player can reset their sp and then reallocate. Its common to skill up in assault first, then respec into the field you truly want.


Do you see the trend here? Another "Lets make this game MAG 2.0. Otherwise i wont be any good and I wont like the game."

This game is not at all like MAG, I just enjoyed this ability.

Am I missing something here? Isn't having two extra character slots more or less a respec,if all you want to do is try other things out?

Play your first character for about a month,let the other two characters passively train(since you earn about a point every four seconds, that comes out to 604,800 SP on top of whatever you start out with).Problem solved.Instant respec.

Or you could always just delete your first character.Either way,I really don't understand the point of asking for the ability to respec.

Was bored looking back over old posts and thought about this ^ for a minute and I really don't agree with your other two characters passively training. I think you should only get passive SP for the character you are using, the other two should be stagnant slots.

Each character gets passive skilling.

Active skilling allows you to outpace passive skilling.

BREAK

There are a million reasons why respecing should NEVER be allowed.

1. This game has consequences. If you spend points, they are spent.
2. If you allow respecing, then all a player would need to do is get barely enough SP's to get the best drop suit and weapon pairing, then respec whenever you want to do a different role, that is bad game design, if you can't see that, I can't help you.
3. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever. In the real world, if you have a degree in english and decide that you want a job in engineering, you can't respec your Brittish Lit skill for Calculus instead. It doesn't work that way.
4. Respec-ing makes games easier, this game is supposed to be hard. Unabashedly hard. Completely unapologetically hardcore.
5. Respec-ing is a bad idea and if you want it, you should feel bad.

Its a video game not the real world nothing in this game relates to the real world but ok

Make it cost AUR and penalize the unconversion of a skill.

Unconverted skills are slowly untrained but boost passive sp gain.

Skills being untrained are locked in that way and completely untrain the level and cannot be boosted a level in that time.

Remember dust 514 is free to play and if there is any way I would scrape money out of the players this is surely one of them.

They are still going to suffer the concequences of having a skill locked out, losing skill points (as currently dust marines are UNABLE to lose SP at ALL) and hopefully learn from thier mistakces.

Making it slow and tedious can make it discouraging to overabuse it.

OMG will a dev or GM PLZ for the love of pete lock this thread already. this horse is dead plz stop these people from beating it any more.

it is but not one EVE player can give a decent argument against it, as usual.

Make it cost AUR and penalize the unconversion of a skill.

Unconverted skills are slowly untrained but boost passive sp gain.

Skills being untrained are locked in that way and completely untrain the level and cannot be boosted a level in that time.

Remember dust 514 is free to play and if there is any way I would scrape money out of the players this is surely one of them.

They are still going to suffer the concequences of having a skill locked out, losing skill points (as currently dust marines are UNABLE to lose SP at ALL) and hopefully learn from thier mistakces.

Making it slow and tedious can make it discouraging to overabuse it.

A mod really needs to make the DECISION to lock this thread. The nonstop bickering and opinion hating is bad for growing the community within the EVE UNIVERSE.

I've said it time and time again, people need to wake up and realize we aren't playing EVE and we aren't playing MAG. We're playing Dust 514. Failure to realize this is going to result in dire CONSEQUENCES when it comes time to launch and there will be no community to help new players realize their CHOICES.


Was that good enough for you gangsta?

Maybe there could be a compromise. I've been in the beta a few weeks now and I still find the leveling system a bit daunting.

Maybe there could be a 'point of no return' to help ease players into the complexity of leveling characters. Something like once you've upgraded and tried 10 skills you can respec if you wish, but it'd be an one time deal only. The only reason I side with the people that would welcome a respec is the fact that I could play for a week, realise I've made a mistake and then I will have lost a weeks effort.

I see a lot of elitism on these boards. 'If they don't understand it let them go back to CoD, we don't want them here'. I'm not an idiot, but I'm not affraid to say I could use a little help. I'm on the forum every day trying to learn as much as I can, but I still feel out of my depth and the ability to at least have a partial respec would help a lot.

MAG let's you respec. You allocate points into a skill tree to specialize in that tree. After a while that player can reset their sp and then reallocate. Its common to skill up in assault first, then respec into the field you truly want.


Do you see the trend here? Another "Lets make this game MAG 2.0. Otherwise i wont be any good and I wont like the game."

Maybe there could be a compromise. I've been in the beta a few weeks now and I still find the leveling system a bit daunting.

Maybe there could be a 'point of no return' to help ease players into the complexity of leveling characters. Something like once you've upgraded and tried 10 skills you can respec if you wish, but it'd be an one time deal only. The only reason I side with the people that would welcome a respec is the fact that I could play for a week, realise I've made a mistake and then I will have lost a weeks effort.

I see a lot of elitism on these boards. 'If they don't understand it let them go back to CoD, we don't want them here'. I'm not an idiot, but I'm not affraid to say I could use a little help. I'm on the forum every day trying to learn as much as I can, but I still feel out of my depth and the ability to at least have a partial respec would help a lot.