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TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 3	Posted - 2015.11.16 16:02:00 - [1] - Quote Matchmaking SOMETHING has to be done ASAP (downtime tomorrow pretty, pretty please) And imo it has to start with the gear we can use in Public matches.. I do not care how much you grinded, spent or boosted to get it, The best fittings have NO place in Pubs. They are the only casual gamemode.. yet since the dawn of dust they have been overrun with Proto gear. INB4 bla..bla..blablabla.. it's New Eden brah.. who said anything about fair?? Git Gud scraaaaabbbzz.. @ CCP, you are allowing your game to be destroyed by it's playerbase.. SORT IT OUT. For reference.. look at the weekly stats for LHughes and viper xsniper If that is not enough reason to do something to even the battles.. I don't know what is Personally, I use Proto too much in these modes.. but I am countered by reckless stupidity no matter the cost Where "top" players.. are anything but reckless.. and from seeing how they play.. it's literally farming... Faced with a threat "run for your life" and this RUINS gameplay... how?? Because the game is built around CLONES.. they respawn, the fun is by making them do so We had a match earlier.. DMG v DMG squads, both teams with Corp players filling the rest, an even fight Yet the actions of vets, they would rather flank n' spank and do nothing to help their team push the objective Maybe it's seeing l33t players with their 1.46 KD like me.. and the fear just takes over By limiting the tiers of gear used. And the expenses of fighting in Public Contracts - Newbs.. can actually stand a chance. - Vets.. might actually grow a pair in even battles. Yes the game lags, blablabla.. this is not the only problem I am aware of that.. BUT!! This ruins a majority of the battles played daily.. the players are scrubs they love stomping.. SORT IT OUT CCP!!! SOONtm
DEATH THE KlD Imperfect - Bastards 840	Posted - 2015.11.16 16:14:00 - [2] - Quote Remove kdr and death stats..only show the kills..then kd padding will be pointless as no one will ever know your kd not even you..and it gives players who had a rough start get into decent corps instead of saying must have a 3+kd My kd isn't bad for running solo but I'd honestly rather have it removed if it would result in better matches CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69 Steam - Heimpai
Twelve Guage Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 1	Posted - 2015.11.16 16:20:00 - [3] - Quote In b4 some tryhard goes but where else should we play for isk and kills. The Mistress of Massdrivers Buying TaireiGÇÖs CrimsonGÇÖ AM-L skins 4m ea Check out my thread in player
8213 Blauhelme E.B.O.L.A. 2	Posted - 2015.11.16 16:22:00 - [4] - Quote OMG math-making is broken? B-b-but they had subjective data to think otherwise... I don't understand! Never thank me for ISK, never call me a legend, and always send your 'gg' to CCP. Audacity of wanting improvement
Lightning35 Delta514 The Warlords Legion 2	Posted - 2015.11.16 16:23:00 - [5] - Quote Only thing that has to be done about matchmaking is put gets with vets and noobs with noobs. You can't do anything about gear. They are public matches. PUBLIC. Use what you want. But I am tired of erring placed on noob teams and get stomped, always having to carry team, or be placed on matches, kill, and enemy leaves. CEO of T-W-L YouTube- Lightning35 Delta514 Thukker Grenade God
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 3	Posted - 2015.11.16 16:25:00 - [6] - Quote Twelve Guage wrote: In b4 some tryhard goes but where else should we play for isk and kills. FW and PC of course.. Adding progression.. want to use your shiny suit.. find a real fight!! Which imo is another boost to gameplay quality.. as the only modes you can use your best gear would be.. - The same place it can be salvaged by other players WIN/WIN SOONtm
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 3	Posted - 2015.11.16 16:27:00 - [7] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Only thing that has to be done about matchmaking is put gets with vets and noobs with noobs. You can't do anything about gear. They are public matches. PUBLIC. Use what you want. But I am tired of erring placed on noob teams and get stomped, always having to carry team, or be placed on matches, kill, and enemy leaves. There are not enough players for that. Balancing the gear use would help get the most out of current matchmaking. If you are here to try justify Proto stomps.. gtfo and make your own post.. Archduke won't let me be mean to you, so from here out I will just ignore you SOONtm
phucinfiniteisk Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 45	Posted - 2015.11.16 16:32:00 - [8] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Only thing that has to be done about matchmaking is put gets with vets and noobs with noobs. You can't do anything about gear. They are public matches. PUBLIC. Use what you want. But I am tired of erring placed on noob teams and get stomped, always having to carry team, or be placed on matches, kill, and enemy leaves. Leaving matches working as intended.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 3	Posted - 2015.11.16 16:32:00 - [9] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Only thing that has to be done about matchmaking is put gets with vets and noobs with noobs. You can't do anything about gear. They are public matches. PUBLIC. Use what you want. But I am tired of erring placed on noob teams and get stomped, always having to carry team, or be placed on matches, kill, and enemy leaves. Sorry Archie.. can't help myself.. You are being a moron, at least find a decent reason to justify being a scrub. PUBLIC matches.. meant for everyone.. not just shameless d1ck waving.. there should be rules against that in public If this change was implemented.. all those starter fits hiding in FW, could actually play Pubs.. Meaning we could go as far as to lockout NPC/Low SP mercs from FW, increasing fight quality there too There is more to the game than your own enjoyment, consider that as I am, then we can kiss and make up xx SOONtm
Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.11.16 16:35:00 - [10] - Quote I second this. Using top tier gear to combat top tier gear is good, but it's the people without the SP or ISK to use this high level gear that get stomped in the process. It's not fun and just contributes to a stagnating and rather small playerbase. Also there's the issue of commitment to the match. You might have two very even teams, but find that your teammates aren't willing to commit to the fight. Suddenly you're the only one fighting an impossible battle against the odds because the rest of your team aren't willing to risk anything for the fight. Matchmaking alone isn't enough to overcome these issues to provide fun games for players down the pecking order. Reducing the gap between standard and proto is one way of improving things. Another way, which would probably be more effective, would be meta locking. Either all pubs, or just a subsection. "High Sec Public Contracts" would only allow loadouts of a limited meta level (equivalent to all standard gear and modules). Obviously dropsuits with less slots would need higher meta levels to compensate. WoW (vanilla) didn't have a level 1 PVP zone, then by level 2 you were forced to fight against all the level 60s. That would have been crazy.

Lightning35 Delta514 The Warlords Legion 2	Posted - 2015.11.16 16:39:00 - [11] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Only thing that has to be done about matchmaking is put gets with vets and noobs with noobs. You can't do anything about gear. They are public matches. PUBLIC. Use what you want. But I am tired of erring placed on noob teams and get stomped, always having to carry team, or be placed on matches, kill, and enemy leaves. Sorry Archie.. can't help myself.. You are being a moron, at least find a decent reason to justify being a scrub. PUBLIC matches.. meant for everyone.. not just shameless d1ck waving.. there should be rules against that in public If this change was implemented.. all those starter fits hiding in FW, could actually play Pubs.. Meaning we could go as far as to lockout NPC/Low SP mercs from FW, increasing fight quality there too There is more to the game than your own enjoyment, consider that as I am, then we can kiss and make up xx I updated post. Also, it is a game, for my enjoyment. So now I can't have fun in it??? It's not my fault. You think I don't suffer from stomping either? I have gone broke so many times and have to resort to starter fits. (Proto addiction doesn't let me rub adv or basic) you might ask, well why not running lower tiered? But most pro player mentalities (yes, it asked lotta stompers) is, why run lower when you can run pro? I have the skill and isk. So why would to run it??? I may be indirectly supporting stompers, maybe causing tension, but that's not my intention or meaning. I WANT people to have fun and stuff. I want to run my pro gear just as much as new players want to not be stomped. But it all leads down to bad match making. Put me and other stompers against other stompers. We NEED SP rank. I'm sorry if I caused tension, it was not my desire, but people really arent seeing that 1, this is a free GAME, emphasizing game as it is FOR ENTERTAINMENT, 2 players are being punished by CCPs own problem of bad matchmaking. CEO of T-W-L YouTube- Lightning35 Delta514 Thukker Grenade God
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 3	Posted - 2015.11.16 16:44:00 - [12] - Quote Yes but at this stage.. matchmaking is doomed.. always has been. Balancing the gear usage.. would help make the most of what we have ^^ I understand, you are playing for fun, proto is fun good times In real fights.. vs low level opponents it is bad, always has been, always will be. Actions have consequences, most players stomped for their fun and killed the game for many others Apologies for the rant at you, but this needs sorting yesterday... there is NO reason to allow it. SOONtm
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 3	Posted - 2015.11.16 16:46:00 - [13] - Quote Good players in bad suits.. will still be good players.. Again.. this is NO reason not to make the change. Top tier gear, should be reserved for those battles. SOONtm
Lightning35 Delta514 The Warlords Legion 2	Posted - 2015.11.16 16:52:00 - [14] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Yes but at this stage.. matchmaking is doomed.. always has been. Balancing the gear usage.. would help make the most of what we have ^^ I understand, you are playing for fun, proto is fun good times In real fights.. vs low level opponents it is bad, always has been, always will be. Actions have consequences, most players stomped for their fun and killed the game for many others Apologies for the rant at you, but this needs sorting yesterday... there is NO reason to allow it. There we go, friendlier tone. Now you understand. Yes pro is fun, it is also kinda killing dust, and I understand that it'll be hard to fix. But I till then, not much will stop stomping. Apologies accepted. Forgive me for sounding like a scrub. CEO of T-W-L YouTube- Lightning35 Delta514 Thukker Grenade God
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 1	Posted - 2015.11.16 16:55:00 - [15] - Quote Wanna solve the problem? Match-making based on Skill Points, try it. No.Gäó
duster 35000 618	Posted - 2015.11.16 16:55:00 - [16] - Quote >People unironically think that removing proto will do anything, and some mods are only useful at proto >no fun allowed Apply kill to self We'll bang ok?
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 18	Posted - 2015.11.16 16:55:00 - [17] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: By limiting the tiers of gear used. And the expenses of fighting in Public Contracts - Newbs.. can actually stand a chance. - Vets.. might actually grow a pair in even battles. In favor. Alternatively, increase pub payouts so newbs can afford to field decent gear. Or perhaps a combination of both. Dropsuit Usage Rates
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 3	Posted - 2015.11.16 17:01:00 - [18] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: TheD1CK wrote: By limiting the tiers of gear used. And the expenses of fighting in Public Contracts - Newbs.. can actually stand a chance. - Vets.. might actually grow a pair in even battles. In favor. Alternatively, increase pub payouts so newbs can afford to field decent gear. Or perhaps a combination of both. Remember the bug where payouts went insane?? Yes, fights were fun.. but it increased the proscrub behaviour a LOT.. doing that would be in the wrong direction I think I'd like to see one mode in Public Contracts for Proto spam.. Ambush would be nice Apart from that.. if players like that duster guy want to cry it's no fun anymore.. good I'd rather 10 low sp mercs had a gg than one entitled scrub getting his way SOONtm
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 12	Posted - 2015.11.16 17:01:00 - [19] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: Wanna solve the problem? Match-making based on Skill Points, try it. What? No. Skill points have nothing to do with player skill Kill death ratio, win loss ratio, and WPs earned per second in match give us a clearer picture of player skill. No matter what matchmaking formula you use, it won't be efficient unless it has enough players to put into matches. With DUST's player population shrinking we are only going to see matchmaking get worse. Get this game off of the PS3 and onto a platform that is growing, not in it's twilight like the PS3. Become the phoenix, rise again
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 1	Posted - 2015.11.16 17:02:00 - [20] - Quote With 3 years playtime, and 105m sp, when Scotty puts me in a match he expects me to go bat shite crazy. If I squad up it gets worse. Some days I just want to crank out my missions and shoot the breeze with my buds.. I don't want to go full ****** every match all the time. Having said that, I'm very strict on myself with std in pubs to give newbros a shot at me. I've got 50-60m in HAV and never run them outside of fw. To the fw naysayers: if you build suits out of as much lp gear as possible, you will start to profit. (Not going into detail) Also, if you can resist modding apex...... Also, if you can afford to stomp pubs..... Just like every other dust argument for good, those against are insanely transparent. Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~

duster 35000 619	Posted - 2015.11.16 17:05:00 - [21] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: TheD1CK wrote: By limiting the tiers of gear used. And the expenses of fighting in Public Contracts - Newbs.. can actually stand a chance. - Vets.. might actually grow a pair in even battles. In favor. Alternatively, increase pub payouts so newbs can afford to field decent gear. Or perhaps a combination of both. Remember the bug where payouts went insane?? Yes, fights were fun.. but it increased the proscrub behaviour a LOT.. doing that would be in the wrong direction I think I'd like to see one mode in Public Contracts for Proto spam.. Ambush would be nice Apart from that.. if players like that duster guy want to cry it's no fun anymore.. good I'd rather 10 low sp mercs had a gg than one entitled scrub getting his way >Apart from that.. if players like that duster guy want to cry it's no fun anymore.. good nice bait the problem is MM & they will still get stomped if i ran adv We'll bang ok?
Thumb Green Elephant Riders 2	Posted - 2015.11.16 17:07:00 - [22] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Only limiting gear to let's say basic for example will do little. Pro player with max skills still have advantage no matter what. That is true but doing a little is better than doing nothing. True again that max skills will give an advantage no matter what but max skills on basic doesn't provide as much advantage as max skills on proto and officer. Max skills on a proto suit gives more CPU/PG wiggle room than on basic . Max skills on the AG-1 gives you 221 CPU and 40 PG on the AGK.0 it's 498 CPU and 91 PG and on the RAGK.o it's 610 CPU and 118PG, more than double and almost triple the fitting room just from the suits themselves. Then you throw on the weapon fitting cost reduction skills (don't forget the assaults as well as logi's equipment) and you can slap near about anything you want on it without worrying about sacrificing much. Whereas with basic and adv sacrifices have to made on some things so you can have better of something else. Restricting gear won't completely level the playing field but it greatly cuts down on the advantage maxed out players have over not so maxed out players and offers them a greater chance to compete. However little it may be it is still a lot better than nothing at all. Most of what I see around here is just a bag of dicks in need of some kicks. Dust really needs its high sec.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 3	Posted - 2015.11.16 17:09:00 - [23] - Quote @ Duster uh-huh.. it was another problem before that, you will find a new one after this.. At least by your comment.. you are saying that ADV would be unfair.. I agree. Thanks for indirectly supporting my goal here APEX being the best gear available in pubs, might be the best way to go, thanks for the input. SOONtm
god clone FACK YOU .i.. 79	Posted - 2015.11.16 17:11:00 - [24] - Quote Let's just ban all these friken care bears and keep dust as it is. A brutal place where only the strongest survive. Something about something
Moochie Cricket Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 1	Posted - 2015.11.16 17:12:00 - [25] - Quote You should have to choose what gear to bring into a match and how much of it before you even deploy. If you lose the match you get NONE of the gear back and the winning team splits what you didn't deploy into as salvage. Want to protostomp? Go right ahead and bring 10 protosuits into the battle. Better win though, because even if you don't die a single time but still lose the battle you would still lose the 10 suits you brought. Die 10 times after only bringing 10 suits? That sucks, should have brought more suits because now you can only watch the rest of the battle. Caldari REALLY 514
duster 35000 619	Posted - 2015.11.16 17:13:00 - [26] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: @ Duster uh-huh.. it was another problem before that, you will find a new one after this.. At least by your comment.. you are saying that ADV would be unfair.. I agree. Thanks for indirectly supporting my goal here APEX being the best gear available in pubs, might be the best way to go, thanks for the input. if everyone was retricted like thag i'd STILL stomp We'll bang ok?
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 3	Posted - 2015.11.16 17:15:00 - [27] - Quote duster 35000 wrote: TheD1CK wrote: @ Duster uh-huh.. it was another problem before that, you will find a new one after this.. At least by your comment.. you are saying that ADV would be unfair.. I agree. Thanks for indirectly supporting my goal here APEX being the best gear available in pubs, might be the best way to go, thanks for the input. if everyone was retricted like thag i'd STILL stomp Ok, your greatest has left me in awe.. At least with all those mad skillz, we won't see any QQ if this change goes through. SOONtm
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 18	Posted - 2015.11.16 17:18:00 - [28] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: ... doing that [increasing pub pay] would be in the wrong direction I think ... Possible. That said, "unlock some awesome stuff that you can't afford to use" isn't exactly enticing gameplay. I'd rather see everyone get rich from in-game activity than see what we have now: the rich getting richer, and the poor unable to afford to muster competent defense. Dropsuit Usage Rates
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 1	Posted - 2015.11.16 17:21:00 - [29] - Quote Premade squads is the only real problem. Beyond sp for skills, you have to contend with organized squads communicating vs. casual solo players joining for fun. CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 3	Posted - 2015.11.16 17:22:00 - [30] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: TheD1CK wrote: ... doing that [increasing pub pay] would be in the wrong direction I think ... Possible. That said, "unlock some awesome stuff that you can't afford to use" isn't exactly enticing gameplay. I'd rather see everyone get rich from in-game activity than see more of what we have now: the rich getting richer, and the poor being unable to afford to muster competent opposition. I personally suspect the optimal solution would involve a blending of meta locks and pay tweaks. Agreed, removing proto reduces ISK destroyed so payouts would suffer. I am not against increasing them.. to an extent.. But there has to be progression and a reason to move out of Pubs.. High paychecks in these battles and too many would sit as comfortably as they do now. SOONtm

duster 35000 619	Posted - 2015.11.16 17:25:00 - [31] - Quote god clone wrote: Let's just ban all these friken care bears and keep dust as it is. A brutal place where only the strongest survive. sooooo...http://static2.fjcdn.com/comments/Mfw+op+just+basically+copies+one+of+the+banners+_77fba81860f79fcd5527a68993a578ed.jpg ? We'll bang ok?
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 3	Posted - 2015.11.16 17:29:00 - [32] - Quote Moochie Cricket wrote: You should have to choose what gear to bring into a match and how much of it before you even deploy. If you lose the match you get NONE of the gear back and the winning team splits what you didn't deploy into as salvage. Want to protostomp? Go right ahead and bring 10 protosuits into the battle. Better win though, because even if you don't die a single time but still lose the battle you would still lose the 10 suits you brought. Die 10 times after only bringing 10 suits? That sucks, should have brought more suits because now you can only watch the rest of the battle. Now this is interesting +1 SOONtm
Hawkings Greenback Dead Man's Game 474	Posted - 2015.11.16 17:33:00 - [33] - Quote Having run in a squad with Ant & Dec, I mean Hughes & Viper, I have to say they do pretty much smash things. Good players will always do well, the rest of us just follow in there wake. Honest question, is it to late to make the changes you propose ? "Forum Lurker" since 2012
phucinfiniteisk Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 45	Posted - 2015.11.16 17:40:00 - [34] - Quote Devadander wrote: With 3 years playtime, and 105m sp, when Scotty puts me in a match he expects me to go bat shite crazy. If I squad up it gets worse. Some days I just want to crank out my missions and shoot the breeze with my buds.. I don't want to go full ****** every match all the time. Having said that, I'm very strict on myself with std in pubs to give newbros a shot at me. I've got 50-60m in HAV and never run them outside of fw. To the fw naysayers: if you build suits out of as much lp gear as possible, you will start to profit. (Not going into detail) Also, if you can resist modding apex...... Also, if you can afford to stomp pubs..... Just like every other dust argument for good, those against are insanely transparent. I haven't been around long on my main character but I know CCP already improved matchmaking and found out all matchmaking algorithm s r exploitable. Like creating new psn dust character and inviting pros to low mu matches. Matchmaking will not solve the problem. I have been in channels were two corps qsync ( about 20 total) and fight each other. They r not always evenly split between the two teams, but they r good matches. It's possible but corps just wanna stomp easy players. This is a sandbox game inspired by eve but CCP underestimated how petty us console players would b. Also, it may have something to do with ps3's end. Most infinite isk players r like fuk it burn it to the ground ps3 is dead
Moochie Cricket Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 1	Posted - 2015.11.16 17:43:00 - [35] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Moochie Cricket wrote: You should have to choose what gear to bring into a match and how much of it before you even deploy. If you lose the match you get NONE of the gear back and the winning team splits what you didn't deploy into as salvage. Want to protostomp? Go right ahead and bring 10 protosuits into the battle. Better win though, because even if you don't die a single time but still lose the battle you would still lose the 10 suits you brought. Die 10 times after only bringing 10 suits? That sucks, should have brought more suits because now you can only watch the rest of the battle. Now this is interesting +1 It could even get even more interesting when you think about the effect it would have on people leaving battles. Caldari REALLY 514
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 3	Posted - 2015.11.16 17:45:00 - [36] - Quote Moochie Cricket wrote: TheD1CK wrote: Moochie Cricket wrote: You should have to choose what gear to bring into a match and how much of it before you even deploy. If you lose the match you get NONE of the gear back and the winning team splits what you didn't deploy into as salvage. Want to protostomp? Go right ahead and bring 10 protosuits into the battle. Better win though, because even if you don't die a single time but still lose the battle you would still lose the 10 suits you brought. Die 10 times after only bringing 10 suits? That sucks, should have brought more suits because now you can only watch the rest of the battle. Now this is interesting +1 It could even get even more interesting when you think about the effect it would have on people leaving battles. Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom!!! That is a pretty damn good idea SOONtm
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 1	Posted - 2015.11.16 17:48:00 - [37] - Quote I'll make this suggestion yet again.... Keep pubs as is. Copy skirm and amb. New tab "Militia contracts" Tier locked to MLT only, gear mods, everything. Give it lore by concord offering our services to local MLT, tier locked to reduce collateral damage to high sec infrastructure. As such, isk payouts will be much lower. Yet battle is battle, so sp stays same. Mission objectives can also be accomplished in this mode. Noobs can advance their skills and earn dailys, risking more for pubs can pay more, but the redeyed demons play there. Vets can grind missions. Fixed sigh Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 1	Posted - 2015.11.16 17:52:00 - [38] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Moochie Cricket wrote: TheD1CK wrote: Moochie Cricket wrote: You should have to choose what gear to bring into a match and how much of it before you even deploy. If you lose the match you get NONE of the gear back and the winning team splits what you didn't deploy into as salvage. Want to protostomp? Go right ahead and bring 10 protosuits into the battle. Better win though, because even if you don't die a single time but still lose the battle you would still lose the 10 suits you brought. Die 10 times after only bringing 10 suits? That sucks, should have brought more suits because now you can only watch the rest of the battle. Now this is interesting +1 It could even get even more interesting when you think about the effect it would have on people leaving battles. Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom!!! That is a pretty damn good idea So you fill up with std-adv and come across a protatostomp. All lost. Fill up on pro and get wheel of deathed second spawn... All lost. If the core was different, and one knew halfway what to expect next match: This would be an epic idea. As-is I'm gonna have to NO this idea.. Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 3	Posted - 2015.11.16 17:54:00 - [39] - Quote Devadander wrote: I'll make this suggestion yet again.... Keep pubs as is. Copy skirm and amb. New tab "Militia contracts" Tier locked to MLT only, gear mods, everything. Give it lore by concord offering our services to local MLT, tier locked to reduce collateral damage to high sec infrastructure. As such, isk payouts will be much lower. Yet battle is battle, so sp stays same. Mission objectives can also be accomplished in this mode. Noobs can advance their skills and earn dailys, risking more for pubs can pay more, but the redeyed demons play there. Vets can grind missions. Fixed sigh See you are splitting a small playerbase with this change.. Forcing the "vets" to suck it up and use cheap fits does not do that. Edit: not that I disagree.. but at this stage.. it seems impractical SOONtm
duster 35000 619	Posted - 2015.11.16 17:54:00 - [40] - Quote Devadander wrote: I'll make this suggestion yet again.... Keep pubs as is. Copy skirm and amb. New tab "Militia contracts" Tier locked to MLT only, gear mods, everything. Give it lore by concord offering our services to local MLT, tier locked to reduce collateral damage to high sec infrastructure. As such, isk payouts will be much lower. Yet battle is battle, so sp stays same. Mission objectives can also be accomplished in this mode. Noobs can advance their skills and earn dailys, risking more for pubs can pay more, but the redeyed demons play there. Vets can grind missions. Fixed sigh meanwhile, with my mlt ScR/AR... We'll bang ok?

phucinfiniteisk Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 45	Posted - 2015.11.16 17:56:00 - [41] - Quote Moochie Cricket wrote: You should have to choose what gear to bring into a match and how much of it before you even deploy. If you lose the match you get NONE of the gear back and the winning team splits what you didn't deploy into as salvage. Want to protostomp? Go right ahead and bring 10 protosuits into the battle. Better win though, because even if you don't die a single time but still lose the battle you would still lose the 10 suits you brought. Die 10 times after only bringing 10 suits? That sucks, should have brought more suits because now you can only watch the rest of the battle. But I don't want to play against officer or pro because I only have about six mill. Tiered battles is bettee
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 1	Posted - 2015.11.16 17:57:00 - [42] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Devadander wrote: I'll make this suggestion yet again.... Keep pubs as is. Copy skirm and amb. New tab "Militia contracts" Tier locked to MLT only, gear mods, everything. Give it lore by concord offering our services to local MLT, tier locked to reduce collateral damage to high sec infrastructure. As such, isk payouts will be much lower. Yet battle is battle, so sp stays same. Mission objectives can also be accomplished in this mode. Noobs can advance their skills and earn dailys, risking more for pubs can pay more, but the redeyed demons play there. Vets can grind missions. Fixed sigh See you are splitting a small playerbase with this change.. Forcing the "vets" to suck it up and use cheap fits does not do that. Edit: not that I disagree.. but at this stage.. it seems impractical I missed the part about force? Where exactly? Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
phucinfiniteisk Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 45	Posted - 2015.11.16 18:02:00 - [43] - Quote Moochie Cricket wrote: TheD1CK wrote: Moochie Cricket wrote: You should have to choose what gear to bring into a match and how much of it before you even deploy. If you lose the match you get NONE of the gear back and the winning team splits what you didn't deploy into as salvage. Want to protostomp? Go right ahead and bring 10 protosuits into the battle. Better win though, because even if you don't die a single time but still lose the battle you would still lose the 10 suits you brought. Die 10 times after only bringing 10 suits? That sucks, should have brought more suits because now you can only watch the rest of the battle. Now this is interesting +1 It could even get even more interesting when you think about the effect it would have on people leaving battles. Lol I would delete before u force me to stay n battle against ur corp
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 3	Posted - 2015.11.16 18:04:00 - [44] - Quote Devadander wrote: TheD1CK wrote: Devadander wrote: I'll make this suggestion yet again.... Keep pubs as is. Copy skirm and amb. New tab "Militia contracts" Tier locked to MLT only, gear mods, everything. Give it lore by concord offering our services to local MLT, tier locked to reduce collateral damage to high sec infrastructure. As such, isk payouts will be much lower. Yet battle is battle, so sp stays same. Mission objectives can also be accomplished in this mode. Noobs can advance their skills and earn dailys, risking more for pubs can pay more, but the redeyed demons play there. Vets can grind missions. Fixed sigh See you are splitting a small playerbase with this change.. Forcing the "vets" to suck it up and use cheap fits does not do that. Edit: not that I disagree.. but at this stage.. it seems impractical I missed the part about force? Where exactly? Edit: And I'm a vet sooo... If I knew quite a few of us, and we all thought this through and liked it.... I chat ingame, and am the only one from my circle that forums. There's a fairly big group that doesn't care about forums, and I've always mentioned I speak for them as well. The OP here.. I am not asking for new modes, simply BAN higher tiers from Public Contracts. - forcing players to use cheaper fits and provide better battles SOONtm
phucinfiniteisk Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 45	Posted - 2015.11.16 18:04:00 - [45] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Good players in bad suits.. will still be good players.. Again.. this is NO reason not to make the change. Top tier gear, should be reserved for top tier battles.
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 1	Posted - 2015.11.16 18:06:00 - [46] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Devadander wrote: TheD1CK wrote: Devadander wrote: I'll make this suggestion yet again.... Keep pubs as is. Copy skirm and amb. New tab "Militia contracts" Tier locked to MLT only, gear mods, everything. Give it lore by concord offering our services to local MLT, tier locked to reduce collateral damage to high sec infrastructure. As such, isk payouts will be much lower. Yet battle is battle, so sp stays same. Mission objectives can also be accomplished in this mode. Noobs can advance their skills and earn dailys, risking more for pubs can pay more, but the redeyed demons play there. Vets can grind missions. Fixed sigh See you are splitting a small playerbase with this change.. Forcing the "vets" to suck it up and use cheap fits does not do that. Edit: not that I disagree.. but at this stage.. it seems impractical I missed the part about force? Where exactly? Edit: And I'm a vet sooo... If I knew quite a few of us, and we all thought this through and liked it.... I chat ingame, and am the only one from my circle that forums. There's a fairly big group that doesn't care about forums, and I've always mentioned I speak for them as well. The OP here.. I am not asking for new modes, simply BAN higher tiers from Public Contracts. - forcing players to use cheaper fits and provide better battles OK. Right. So why quote my post, that was a completely different idea, and say that? Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
phucinfiniteisk Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 45	Posted - 2015.11.16 18:08:00 - [47] - Quote Devadander wrote: TheD1CK wrote: Devadander wrote: TheD1CK wrote: Devadander wrote: I'll make this suggestion yet again.... Keep pubs as is. Copy skirm and amb. New tab "Militia contracts" Tier locked to MLT only, gear mods, everything. Give it lore by concord offering our services to local MLT, tier locked to reduce collateral damage to high sec infrastructure. As such, isk payouts will be much lower. Yet battle is battle, so sp stays same. Mission objectives can also be accomplished in this mode. Noobs can advance their skills and earn dailys, risking more for pubs can pay more, but the redeyed demons play there. Vets can grind missions. Fixed sigh See you are splitting a small playerbase with this change.. Forcing the "vets" to suck it up and use cheap fits does not do that. Edit: not that I disagree.. but at this stage.. it seems impractical I missed the part about force? Where exactly? Edit: And I'm a vet sooo... If I knew quite a few of us, and we all thought this through and liked it.... I chat ingame, and am the only one from my circle that forums. There's a fairly big group that doesn't care about forums, and I've always mentioned I speak for them as well. The OP here.. I am not asking for new modes, simply BAN higher tiers from Public Contracts. - forcing players to use cheaper fits and provide better battles OK. Right. So why quote my post, that was a completely different idea, and say that? The point. Remove officer gear pro from pubs.
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 1	Posted - 2015.11.16 18:08:00 - [48] - Quote Now I'm confused... You're OP would be the forceful suggestion. Mine offers an alternative. What did I miss? Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
phucinfiniteisk Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 45	Posted - 2015.11.16 18:10:00 - [49] - Quote If ur good ur good whatever u use wanna use officer play PC or few. Stop easy mode n pubs vs ransoms and low so/isk players
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 1	Posted - 2015.11.16 18:11:00 - [50] - Quote The split will be, new players that want sp playing MLT so they don't get splattered constantly. Vets could indeed play it, but with low payout, and the inability to pad stats. Won't. Outside of like maybe primary hacks or something. Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~

phucinfiniteisk Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 45	Posted - 2015.11.16 18:11:00 - [51] - Quote These suggestions r too complicated and unrealistic.
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 1	Posted - 2015.11.16 18:15:00 - [52] - Quote So vets playing vets, and noobs playing noobs is unacceptable? Hmmmm... Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
phucinfiniteisk Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 45	Posted - 2015.11.16 18:17:00 - [53] - Quote Devadander wrote: So vets playing vets, and noobs playing noobs is unacceptable? Hmmmm... Matchmaking is exploitable, ull find a workaround. Keep it simple . PC FW officer gear pro gear
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 3	Posted - 2015.11.16 18:18:00 - [54] - Quote Devadander wrote: So vets playing vets, and noobs playing noobs is unacceptable? Hmmmm... Not what I meant if it came off that way.. But I do not think we have the numbers to split into 2 sections like that.. The whole point of this proposal is to balance gear usage so it is fair for them to play together (as we do now anyway) SOONtm
phucinfiniteisk Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 45	Posted - 2015.11.16 18:39:00 - [55] - Quote A simpler solution is to jus muster up the will power to not use officer/pro vs randoms/noobs, fukn recruit actual motaphucn players into ur corps and play PC instead of phuckn farming it to pub stomp.
phucinfiniteisk Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 45	Posted - 2015.11.16 18:41:00 - [56] - Quote U could even recruit the many NPC players for FW, and use ur isk for that
phucinfiniteisk Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 45	Posted - 2015.11.16 18:42:00 - [57] - Quote Man this circlejerk stuff has to be full of ******** kids.
phucinfiniteisk Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 45	Posted - 2015.11.16 18:45:00 - [58] - Quote Lol , ud have to set ur egos aside, which I don't think ur capable. And that's is fukn sad because this is a video game. I can only imagine what type of people u r out of game it pisses me off then makes me sad for u . Good luck in life
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 3	Posted - 2015.11.16 18:46:00 - [59] - Quote phucinfiniteisk wrote: Man this circlejerk stuff has to be full of ******** kids. Tell me... What do you do to support the game while you critic others ?? Feel free to post your main and let us all know. Until then, calm down.. this thread isn't here for you to have a back and forth with your issues. Keep on topic please, and thanks for the feedback posted so far.. we get it SOONtm
duster 35000 619	Posted - 2015.11.16 18:52:00 - [60] - Quote phucinfiniteisk wrote: Man this circlejerk stuff has to be full of ******** kids. what else are we supposed to do in a general? We'll bang ok?

Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.11.16 19:04:00 - [61] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Only limiting gear to let's say basic for example will do little. Pro player with max skills still have advantage no matter what. That is true but doing a little is better than doing nothing. True again that max skills will give an advantage no matter what but max skills on basic doesn't provide as much advantage as max skills on proto and officer. Max skills on a proto suit gives more CPU/PG wiggle room than on basic . Max skills on the AG-1 gives you 221 CPU and 40 PG on the AGK.0 it's 498 CPU and 91 PG and on the RAGK.o it's 610 CPU and 118PG, more than double and almost triple the fitting room just from the suits themselves. Then you throw on the weapon fitting cost reduction skills (don't forget the assaults as well as logi's equipment) and you can slap near about anything you want on it without worrying about sacrificing much. Whereas with basic and adv sacrifices have to made on some things so you can have better of something else. Restricting gear won't completely level the playing field but it greatly cuts down on the advantage maxed out players have over not so maxed out players and offers them a greater chance to compete. However little it may be it is still a lot better than nothing at all. Removing passive skill bonuses, by which I mean all skill bonuses that provide a benefit other than access to gear and fitting cost reduction / fitting space, would be another major step in improving NPE and match quality. Players should have to pay for their advantages.
Summa Militum Abstract Requiem 1	Posted - 2015.11.16 19:08:00 - [62] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Matchmaking SOMETHING has to be done ASAP (downtime tomorrow pretty, pretty please) And imo it has to start with the gear we can use in Public matches.. I do not care how much you grinded, spent or boosted to get it, The best fittings have NO place in Pubs. They are the only casual gamemode.. yet since the dawn of dust they have been overrun with Proto gear. INB4 bla..bla..blablabla.. it's New Eden brah.. who said anything about fair?? Git Gud scraaaaabbbzz.. @ CCP, you are allowing your game to be destroyed by it's playerbase.. SORT IT OUT. For reference.. look at the weekly stats for LHughes and viper xsniper If that is not enough reason to do something to even the battles.. I don't know what is Personally, I use Proto too much in these modes.. but I am countered by reckless stupidity no matter the cost Where "top" players.. are anything but reckless.. and from seeing how they play.. it's literally farming... Faced with a threat "run for your life" and this RUINS gameplay... how?? Because the game is built around CLONES.. they respawn, the fun is by making them do so We had a match earlier.. DMG v DMG squads, both teams with Corp players filling the rest, an even fight Yet the actions of vets, they would rather flank n' spank and do nothing to help their team push the objective Maybe it's seeing l33t players with their 1.46 KD like me.. and the fear just takes over By limiting the tiers of gear used. And the expenses of fighting in Public Contracts - Newbs.. can actually stand a chance. - Vets.. might actually grow a pair in even battles. Yes the game lags, blablabla.. this is not the only problem I am aware of that.. BUT!! This ruins a majority of the battles played daily.. the players are scrubs they love stomping.. SORT IT OUT CCP!!! I have been pushing to have Proto/Officer/Experimental Gear removed from Public Matches for awhile now and it is always the same people who fight against the idea. I have a theory of why these people are so against the removal of higher tiered gear from Pubs. I think a bunch of people have built up the perception that they are actually good at this game. They have built this perception up by relying heavily on squads to guide and help them throughout a battle as well as by using higher tiered gear to target weaker players so that on the EOM screen it looks like they kicked *. You will notice that a lot of these players who don't want higher tiered gear removed from Pubs are the same people who refuse to use higher tiered gear against legitimately good players, are the same people who quit matches when they see they have to face a challenge, and are the same people who play Domination**. I usually don't like telling people to HTFU but for those who are against the removal of Proto/Officer/Experimental Gear from Pubs I say to them...HTFU!
Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.11.16 19:10:00 - [63] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: TheD1CK wrote: ... doing that [increasing pub pay] would be in the wrong direction I think ... Possible. That said, "unlock some awesome stuff that you can't afford to use" isn't exactly enticing gameplay. I'd rather see everyone get rich from in-game activity than see more of what we have now: the rich getting richer, and the poor being unable to afford to muster competent opposition. I personally suspect the optimal solution would involve a blending of meta locks and pay tweaks. My two cents, of course. The problem with this is, if everyone is rich, nobody is. Also this would make things a lot worse for low SP players. They may be able to afford great gear, but won't be able to use it. But will have to fight against more people who do have the SP for better gear.
luckyireland Mcalpines Fusiliers 61	Posted - 2015.11.16 19:17:00 - [64] - Quote Put a sp gain of 2% on starter fits and make them only available to players under 3 million sp. It will make up for there low scores wp gains. I'm happy go lucky
maybe deadcatz Serris Inc 1	Posted - 2015.11.16 19:31:00 - [65] - Quote I'd rather that people just get the isk value of the suit they kill and terminate. And get a chance to salvage any officer or experimental gear they kill. It benefits the proto stompers since they won't have to go down on their gear and it attracts more people to kill. It benefits the newbies because milita weapons are still weapon even though they suck. Just run a few proto suits over in a lav or railgun installation snipe then,and bam,free isk. Ha!You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
IR Scifi OSG Planetary Operations 266	Posted - 2015.11.16 19:38:00 - [66] - Quote I wish I had a good solution. MU balancing seems to work (when enough people play) but I honestly don't think we have enough players to truly balance it. I get wrecked hard when I squad with my normal gang (who are actually good...unlike me) but I stomp pretty good I'm running solo with basic / advanced gear due to my pathetic ranking. So maybe it's not that segmenting doesn't work, it's that we don't have enough people to segment correctly?
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 3	Posted - 2015.11.16 19:54:00 - [67] - Quote IR Scifi wrote: I wish I had a good solution. MU balancing seems to work (when enough people play) but I honestly don't think we have enough players to truly balance it. I get wrecked hard when I squad with my normal gang (who are actually good...unlike me) but I stomp pretty good I'm running solo with basic / advanced gear due to my pathetic ranking. So maybe it's not that segmenting doesn't work, it's that we don't have enough people to segment correctly? That's what I think anyway So the answer may be outside of Matchmaking/Moo But found by limiting the tiers available in casual gamemodes. Pub chat "DeadMansGame" Squads, rage, trolls, Qsyncs, CARNAGE.. and stuff.
Hawkings Greenback Dead Man's Game 475	Posted - 2015.11.16 20:04:00 - [68] - Quote I tried to write a serious post but I couldn't bring myself to do it. However there are some good suggestions that I would get on board with. Good topic may bookmark for further viewing "Forum Lurker" since 2012
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 3	Posted - 2015.11.16 20:07:00 - [69] - Quote Hawkings Greenback wrote: I tried to write a serious post but I couldn't bring myself to do it. However there are some good suggestions that I would get on board with. Good topic may bookmark for further viewing "I want to help out, but if CCP dgaf.. how can I??" No offence CCP.. but it's not like this is a persistent issue for over 2 years. Pub chat "DeadMansGame" Squads, rage, trolls, Qsyncs, CARNAGE.. and stuff.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 21	Posted - 2015.11.16 20:11:00 - [70] - Quote Why is attacking decicively from a flank bad gameplay? Running at the enemy team head one seems pointless. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.

Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2015.11.16 20:21:00 - [71] - Quote There are ways of improving the pool from which matchmaking picks players. Merging gamemode queues would reduce segregation. Either allowing matchmaking more freedom to group players, or to offset issues that may be caused by separating out a meta-locked pub queue. It would also stop everyone just playing domination.
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.11.16 20:25:00 - [72] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Matchmaking Lost me here Edit: Hey. Don't you talk sh!t about my baby snake. Monde de fous...
Thor Odinson42 Ancient Exiles. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7	Posted - 2015.11.16 20:56:00 - [73] - Quote Just stopped by to scan the forums, saw this post and couldn't resist. I logged in last week to play a few games and found that things might be worse than ever from a participation standpoint. I was only able to get into a domination so I didn't expect much from the onset. The first match I left pretty quick because there were only a handful of players on my team that made it out of the redline. No uplinks aside from mine. After one death, I left. The other matches were pretty similar, usually a toss up between which side actually approached the lone objective. I don't see how anyone could garner any type of information from these types of matches. I don't believe they would have been any different if people were using militia or officer gear.
Thumb Green Elephant Riders 2	Posted - 2015.11.16 21:31:00 - [74] - Quote Varoth Drac wrote: Thumb Green wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Only limiting gear to let's say basic for example will do little. Pro player with max skills still have advantage no matter what. That is true but doing a little is better than doing nothing. True again that max skills will give an advantage no matter what but max skills on basic doesn't provide as much advantage as max skills on proto and officer. Max skills on a proto suit gives more CPU/PG wiggle room than on basic . Max skills on the AG-1 gives you 221 CPU and 40 PG on the AGK.0 it's 498 CPU and 91 PG and on the RAGK.o it's 610 CPU and 118PG, more than double and almost triple the fitting room just from the suits themselves. Then you throw on the weapon fitting cost reduction skills (don't forget the assaults as well as logi's equipment) and you can slap near about anything you want on it without worrying about sacrificing much. Whereas with basic and adv sacrifices have to made on some things so you can have better of something else. Restricting gear won't completely level the playing field but it greatly cuts down on the advantage maxed out players have over not so maxed out players and offers them a greater chance to compete. However little it may be it is still a lot better than nothing at all. Removing passive skill bonuses, by which I mean all skill bonuses that provide a benefit other than access to gear and fitting cost reduction / fitting space, would be another major step in improving NPE and match quality. Players should have to pay for their advantages. And suddenly doing a little becomes doing a lot. I suggested something similar before but it was limiting the passive to a certain level which of course that was also with the thought of meta locks in mind so a generalized standard, adv, proto locked queue would only allow up to that level of skill bonus to be used. While I don't appose completely removing the bonuses in pubs as you suggest I would prefer to allow for up to adv to be used. Because that is part of the core of the game; then again we'd still have FW & PC for that so perhaps it is worth a try. Most of what I see around here is just a bag of dicks in need of some kicks. Dust really needs its high sec.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 3	Posted - 2015.11.17 12:14:00 - [75] - Quote That's odd... server downtime.. but no changes to balance gear levels.. CCP must not be aware of the issue yet We should make sure to bring it to their attention Pub chat "DeadMansGame" Squads, rage, trolls, Qsyncs, CARNAGE.. and stuff.
LudiKure ninda Dead Man's Game 294	Posted - 2015.11.17 12:55:00 - [76] - Quote Yes this game needs metalocking.AND fixed matchmaking Pubs should be limited to std/adv stuff,including vehicles. FW PC Proto/Officer stuff. Im 100m+ sp player and I got so many ISK that I dont care about losing 10+ 200k suits in a match or few 1.2 mill tanks. And the problem is that Im not the only one who can afford that Im usualy solo player and when I search any game mode I usualy get on the team of low SP players. At the start of the match they all spawn on my links,they will try to take objective,..but then Im starting to see enemy killfead: Kalente,bons,balacs,ghalag... and then my side yust give up,chause most of my bluberyes are yust using starter fits,and they are getting destroyed by sqads of good player rocking the best possible gear in game. And then all you can see blue tags: xxxx has left the battle. And after a minute my team is at 6 players vs 3,4 man sqads with few randoms. And after few attempts with my tank to push enemy off the point, I yust give up chause there is no point fighting solo against 16 players,.. Only thing that you can do is sit in redline in a rail tank, sniping with thale or simply leaving a match. That is how 80% of my matches are,and I really dont know whats keeping me playng this game anymore I think I should turn on my ps4 and forget the every day frustrations,unbalanced matches,lag and exploits... Tank pilot Still waiting 4 Surya <3
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2015.11.17 13:18:00 - [77] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Hawkings Greenback wrote: I tried to write a serious post but I couldn't bring myself to do it. However there are some good suggestions that I would get on board with. Good topic may bookmark for further viewing "I want to help out, but if CCP dgaf.. how can I??" No offence CCP.. but it's not like this is a persistent issue for over 2 years. I have to agree. Methods may vary but this discussion is really about the NPE. I find it obscene that CCP will spend two years chasing RMT while leaving the NPE completely unattended - it's as if they don't want the playerbase to grow. PSN: RationalSpark
dustU Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 19	Posted - 2015.11.17 14:33:00 - [78] - Quote I'm here to ruin your thread. Bad mechanics, PC isk farming, matchmaking exploits, stomping players before they leave academy and so much other ** is ** up with this game. Very noble uz guys trying to find solutions but just let this piece of game die too much ** to fix. CCP shutdown this douchbag infested game
Hawkings Greenback Dead Man's Game 477	Posted - 2015.11.17 15:28:00 - [79] - Quote dustU wrote: I'm here to ruin your thread. Bad mechanics, PC isk farming, matchmaking exploits, stomping players before they leave academy and so much other ** is ** up with this game. Very noble uz guys trying to find solutions but just let this piece of game die too much ** to fix. CCP shutdown this douchbag infested game Yawn "Forum Lurker" since 2012
Dont-be-a-D1CK Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 301	Posted - 2015.11.18 12:05:00 - [80] - Quote They certainly don't want the feedback, keep making adjustments based on keyboard warrior feedback... GG CCP. Well that was a surprise.

Mortedeamor The Black Masquerade 2	Posted - 2015.11.18 13:04:00 - [81] - Quote i agree with limiting gear ...wont effect me at all i dont proto spam in pubs and i maintain and over 3.0 kdr lol pc master race PORT IT CCP
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7	Posted - 2015.11.18 13:55:00 - [82] - Quote There Are Not Enough Players What part of this is so hard to understand? If you try to split people up to improve matchmaking or restrict what gear they can use, it's just going to encourage the playerbase to separate more across modes and make it even harder to find matches. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Nero QSR TOMBSTONE XIII 66	Posted - 2015.11.18 14:36:00 - [83] - Quote I almost always use standart bpo's, and when incounering some Proto player i (sometimes) get a 'pyrus'allotek rifle out and hunt the expensive dude down (in a standart bpo btw) it mabey takes me 6 suits or 12 but how cares, it's bpo and he's down 40k for just the suit alone xD, i laugh my pants of xD i can use Proto suits but i don't want to, to expensive, its funny what they will do to get away from my Militia AR bpo xD, really try it out man. you can let them jump tru hoops if you like xD It's the Law of Sun and Star, President and Pope - It's the Prisoner at the Bar, Gallows and the Rope.
Thumb Green Elephant Riders 2	Posted - 2015.11.18 15:14:00 - [84] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: There Are Not Enough Players What part of this is so hard to understand? If you try to split people up to improve matchmaking or restrict what gear they can use, it's just going to encourage the playerbase to separate more across modes and make it even harder to find matches. People been saying that for a long time now in regards to meta/gear locks and the player base keeps on shrinking a little bit by little bit. I said it before, CCP just needs to bite the bullet and just go ahead and split up the players then there'd be room for growth; because all these people going balls to the walls are suffocating the life out of this game, slowly but surely. Best outcome game actually grows and queue times shorten; the worse that's going to happen, longer search times, well that's the same end result we'll see if we don't split players. Cause players will keep leaving until nothing but the cancer is left and then this game will die because cancer doesn't fight itself. Most of what I see around here is just a bag of dicks in need of some kicks. Dust really needs its high sec.
Zen Chi Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 5	Posted - 2015.11.18 15:21:00 - [85] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Matchmaking SOMETHING has to be done ASAP (downtime tomorrow pretty, pretty please) And imo it has to start with the gear we can use in Public matches.. I do not care how much you grinded, spent or boosted to get it, The best fittings have NO place in Pubs. They are the only casual gamemode.. yet since the dawn of dust they have been overrun with Proto gear. INB4 bla..bla..blablabla.. it's New Eden brah.. who said anything about fair?? Git Gud scraaaaabbbzz.. @ CCP, you are allowing your game to be destroyed by it's playerbase.. SORT IT OUT. For reference.. look at the weekly stats for LHughes and viper xsniper If that is not enough reason to do something to even the battles.. I don't know what is Personally, I use Proto too much in these modes.. but I am countered by reckless stupidity no matter the cost Where "top" players.. are anything but reckless.. and from seeing how they play.. it's literally farming... Faced with a threat "run for your life" and this RUINS gameplay... how?? Because the game is built around CLONES.. they respawn, the fun is by making them do so We had a match earlier.. DMG v DMG squads, both teams with Corp players filling the rest, an even fight Yet the actions of vets, they would rather flank n' spank and do nothing to help their team push the objective Maybe it's seeing l33t players with their 1.46 KD like me.. and the fear just takes over By limiting the tiers of gear used. And the expenses of fighting in Public Contracts - Newbs.. can actually stand a chance. - Vets.. might actually grow a pair in even battles. Yes the game lags, blablabla.. this is not the only problem I am aware of that.. BUT!! This ruins a majority of the battles played daily.. the players are scrubs they love stomping.. SORT IT OUT CCP!!! They have no interest to try to seriously try to fix this game any longer WAKE UP MERCS!
FireBirdStar Dead Man's Game 60	Posted - 2015.11.18 19:18:00 - [86] - Quote Soooo True Albert ...... Born Gallente, Pure Caldari
Shorray Menham S.C.A.F. 54	Posted - 2015.11.20 15:03:00 - [87] - Quote Zen Chi wrote: TheD1CK wrote: Matchmaking SOMETHING has to be done ASAP (downtime tomorrow pretty, pretty please) And imo it has to start with the gear we can use in Public matches.. I do not care how much you grinded, spent or boosted to get it, The best fittings have NO place in Pubs. They are the only casual gamemode.. yet since the dawn of dust they have been overrun with Proto gear. INB4 bla..bla..blablabla.. it's New Eden brah.. who said anything about fair?? Git Gud scraaaaabbbzz.. @ CCP, you are allowing your game to be destroyed by it's playerbase.. SORT IT OUT. For reference.. look at the weekly stats for LHughes and viper xsniper If that is not enough reason to do something to even the battles.. I don't know what is Personally, I use Proto too much in these modes.. but I am countered by reckless stupidity no matter the cost Where "top" players.. are anything but reckless.. and from seeing how they play.. it's literally farming... Faced with a threat "run for your life" and this RUINS gameplay... how?? Because the game is built around CLONES.. they respawn, the fun is by making them do so We had a match earlier.. DMG v DMG squads, both teams with Corp players filling the rest, an even fight Yet the actions of vets, they would rather flank n' spank and do nothing to help their team push the objective Maybe it's seeing l33t players with their 1.46 KD like me.. and the fear just takes over By limiting the tiers of gear used. And the expenses of fighting in Public Contracts - Newbs.. can actually stand a chance. - Vets.. might actually grow a pair in even battles. Yes the game lags, blablabla.. this is not the only problem I am aware of that.. BUT!! This ruins a majority of the battles played daily.. the players are scrubs they love stomping.. SORT IT OUT CCP!!! They have no interest to try to seriously try to fix this game any longer WAKE UP MERCS! Yup, that's the point. Furthermore, they ignore forum posts from everyone who has few likes) But they decorate the Dust-S#it , my boy. Only decorate it. And Aurum! The easiest way is the best way -¦-¦-é-Ç-¦ -¦ -+-+-å-+
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 1	Posted - 2015.11.20 16:23:00 - [88] - Quote Shorray Menham wrote: Zen Chi wrote: TheD1CK wrote: Matchmaking SOMETHING has to be done ASAP (downtime tomorrow pretty, pretty please) And imo it has to start with the gear we can use in Public matches.. I do not care how much you grinded, spent or boosted to get it, The best fittings have NO place in Pubs. They are the only casual gamemode.. yet since the dawn of dust they have been overrun with Proto gear. INB4 bla..bla..blablabla.. it's New Eden brah.. who said anything about fair?? Git Gud scraaaaabbbzz.. @ CCP, you are allowing your game to be destroyed by it's playerbase.. SORT IT OUT. For reference.. look at the weekly stats for LHughes and viper xsniper If that is not enough reason to do something to even the battles.. I don't know what is Personally, I use Proto too much in these modes.. but I am countered by reckless stupidity no matter the cost Where "top" players.. are anything but reckless.. and from seeing how they play.. it's literally farming... Faced with a threat "run for your life" and this RUINS gameplay... how?? Because the game is built around CLONES.. they respawn, the fun is by making them do so We had a match earlier.. DMG v DMG squads, both teams with Corp players filling the rest, an even fight Yet the actions of vets, they would rather flank n' spank and do nothing to help their team push the objective Maybe it's seeing l33t players with their 1.46 KD like me.. and the fear just takes over By limiting the tiers of gear used. And the expenses of fighting in Public Contracts - Newbs.. can actually stand a chance. - Vets.. might actually grow a pair in even battles. Yes the game lags, blablabla.. this is not the only problem I am aware of that.. BUT!! This ruins a majority of the battles played daily.. the players are scrubs they love stomping.. SORT IT OUT CCP!!! They have no interest to try to seriously try to fix this game any longer WAKE UP MERCS! Yup, that's the point. Furthermore, they ignore forum posts from everyone who has few likes) But they decorate the Dust-S#it , my boy. Only decorate it. And Aurum! And you wonder why nobody listens Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
HOUSE OF ISRAEL Chaos Of W.A.R Learning Alliance 1	Posted - 2015.11.21 17:31:00 - [89] - Quote Yo everybody got stomped in the pursuit to getting better.... Stop complaining its a GAME. You can't make people not use their year they EARNED GETTIN STOMPED... I was once a noob but i got tired of thing all the time and built better fits without proto.... It can be done just stop making bad decisions in combat FOR THE NATION OF CALDARIA!!!!!
Git Gud Bruh Dead Man's Game 0	Posted - 2015.12.10 08:29:00 - [90] - Quote I have to agree with D1CK (which almost never happens). Yesterday I was playing a match 6 v 14 and I was on the short end. We we're almost immediately redlined and I found myself literally the only one still pushing, the rest had gone to sniping. I had 3 deaths and not a kill to my name. I slapped on a logibros and a massdriver, finishing the match out 12/3. My teammates however got the reaming of a lifetime. Letting players rush the enemy team in full proto (with an archduke's sentinel and 2 proto logi's on his trail while he slings around an alex's hmg like it were giant phallus) only results in the scrubs bailing, the ones too new to know how to leave shake in their boots in the redline hoping the timer will save them and lets me reap the rewards of people only out to slay the scrubs. They saw me flying through the sky in my glorious blue attire, shooting balls of spasm like it were my own Alex's Phallus and they were a face to disgrace. They scattered like rats in a sewer, they only stopped running when I stepped on one of them. The biggest and "baddest" rat around...Let's call him King Rat (a rather wellfit name) even ran, his logi's still leashed as I chased him. FEE FII FOO FUH! I SMELL THE BLOOD OF AN ARCHDUKE'S BRUH! I chanted as I closed in towards him. Knee's weak, arm's heavy from toting his phallus, his logi's gave in, swapping to their primaries, they all crossed their beams at me like Bill Murray himself had commanded it. And then all was silent. An archduke's lost to a disgraceful melee, the logi's mere cannonfodder. I turned, spitting on his corpse as I passed, headed back to the point that was mine, and mine alone. After all I had earned it, I had slain king rat and his revitalizing scum, I had picked off his army of gal assaults he had brought and most importantly I had stepped out of the redline. With a few taps at my fancy wristwatch I had made my announcement for ownership of the panel and stood there...waiting, Waiting for the glorious battle that was to ensue. They're forces approached. One by one and two by two I slaid as many as I could. They reclaimed the panel, there was nothing I could do about that, not with the rest of my "team" (what a lousy name for a bunch of blues hiding in the hills with militia snipers) hiding in the redline. But I fought tooth and nail to let them know I would not stand for such a terrible plague. I fought hard and I fought well but alas I could not win the war. But yet, I, Leonidas, came back with my shield and not on it BEEEOOOTTTCHHH!!!! CANT TAKE MY LOGIBRO'S SCRAAAAAABBBBBSSS!!!! GIT GUD!!!! TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! o7!!!! But seriously though. I hate carrying teams just because im with a bunch of broke militia scrubs who dont know what to do and dont have the sp or isk to do it if they did. Fix it.

Soto Gallente BLUEBERRIES WITH AUTISM 11	Posted - 2015.12.10 08:34:00 - [91] - Quote I will support this AFTER they put in the basic tier of all weapons, grenades, and equipments.
Git Gud Bruh Dead Man's Game 0	Posted - 2015.12.10 08:36:00 - [92] - Quote Soto Gallente wrote: I will support this AFTER they put in the basic tier of all weapons, grenades, and equipments. ? WUT?
Soto Gallente The Scope Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2015.12.10 08:39:00 - [93] - Quote Git Gud Bruh wrote: Soto Gallente wrote: I will support this AFTER they put in the basic tier of all weapons, grenades, and equipments. ? WUT? *Standard i.e: STD Burst AR, STD Charge Sniper, STD Assault Submachine gun
Daemonn Adima CASSETTE 514 646	Posted - 2015.12.10 08:40:00 - [94] - Quote Ah this old dead horse. I've advocated long and hard for some kind of tier locks or meta lock. No other game allows maxed out characters to fight brand new characters, at least not without some kind of handicap in either direction. Imagine any MMO or RPG where a level 1 character with starting gear is pitted against a max level character with the best available gear in the game... And no handicaps are given. The advantage proto gives over basic fits is pretty huge. The biggest complaint that I see in new threads time and time again is "I emptied a clip into a guy and he turned around and instagibbed me. This keeps happening, how do I fix that?" Answer: Git gud scrub is most common, or in reality "just keep playing for 6 months to a year and then you'll have access to the same stuff." Not very appealing for new players.
Git Gud Bruh Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.12.10 08:43:00 - [95] - Quote Soto Gallente wrote: Git Gud Bruh wrote: Soto Gallente wrote: I will support this AFTER they put in the basic tier of all weapons, grenades, and equipments. ? WUT? *Standard i.e: STD Burst AR, STD Charge Sniper, STD Assault Submachine gun Ahh, ok. Took me a minute, I was all "Dude, last time I checked there was basic everything" but yes i do see your point. I would love a basic assault sub...
Daemonn Adima CASSETTE 514 646	Posted - 2015.12.10 08:47:00 - [96] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: There Are Not Enough Players What part of this is so hard to understand? If you try to split people up to improve matchmaking or restrict what gear they can use, it's just going to encourage the playerbase to separate more across modes and make it even harder to find matches. No One Is Being Separated You're just not allowed to use a certain level of gear in public matches. Don't like it? Play PC or FW, which will remain unchanged or tiered. Playerbase for PC and FW will remain unaffected because nothing is changing there. What part of this is so hard for you to understand? If you refuse to run anything but proto in pubs, that's not my problem. But forcing yourselves on noobs in full proto in 4 man squads has no place in a serious game, but perhaps this is the best indicator that Dust is already dead.
Git Gud Bruh Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.12.10 08:48:00 - [97] - Quote Daemonn Adima wrote: Ah this old dead horse. I've advocated long and hard for some kind of tier locks or meta lock. No other game allows maxed out characters to fight brand new characters, at least not without some kind of handicap in either direction. Imagine any MMO or RPG where a level 1 character with starting gear is pitted against a max level character with the best available gear in the game... And no handicaps are given. The advantage proto gives over basic fits is pretty huge. The biggest complaint that I see in new threads time and time again is "I emptied a clip into a guy and he turned around and instagibbed me. This keeps happening, how do I fix that?" Answer: Git gud scrub is most common, or in reality "just keep playing for 6 months to a year and then you'll have access to the same stuff." Not very appealing for new players. Quit calling me a scrub and yes you do have a very valid point. Dust is really one of the only games other than some of the most hated games on the planet (the cod series comes to mind) where people with everything are pitted against people with nothing. It is very concerning to new players. As it should be. Can you imagine coming out of academy to get wrecked by a darths and an archdukes? But what's worse is the fact that you can literally find people running a darths in academy. That to any mentally stable person is extremely offputting. If some dude walks around oneshotting people with some god weapon named after what appears to be a starwars character i would want to never play that game again. It'd be a lot like buying the new cod and playing a match against bots to practice and the bots have hacks....
PARKOUR PRACTIONER L0RDS 0F LEGI0N Damage LLC 4	Posted - 2015.12.10 08:53:00 - [98] - Quote Git Gud Bruh wrote: I have to agree with D1CK (which almost never happens). Yesterday I was playing a match 6 v 14 and I was on the short end. We we're almost immediately redlined and I found myself literally the only one still pushing, the rest had gone to sniping. I had 3 deaths and not a kill to my name. I slapped on a logibros and a massdriver, finishing the match out 12/3. My teammates however got the reaming of a lifetime. Letting players rush the enemy team in full proto (with an archduke's sentinel and 2 proto logi's on his trail while he slings around an alex's hmg like it were giant phallus) only results in the scrubs bailing, the ones too new to know how to leave shake in their boots in the redline hoping the timer will save them and lets me reap the rewards of people only out to slay the scrubs. They saw me flying through the sky in my glorious blue attire, shooting balls of spasm like it were my own Alex's Phallus and they were a face to disgrace. They scattered like rats in a sewer, they only stopped running when I stepped on one of them. The biggest and "baddest" rat around...Let's call him King Rat (a rather wellfit name) even ran, his logi's still leashed as I chased him. FEE FII FOO FUH! I SMELL THE BLOOD OF AN ARCHDUKE'S BRUH! I chanted as I closed in towards him. Knee's weak, arm's heavy from toting his phallus, his logi's gave in, swapping to their primaries, they all crossed their beams at me like Bill Murray himself had commanded it. And then all was silent. An archduke's lost to a disgraceful melee, the logi's mere cannonfodder. I turned, spitting on his corpse as I passed, headed back to the point that was mine, and mine alone. After all I had earned it, I had slain king rat and his revitalizing scum, I had picked off his army of gal assaults he had brought and most importantly I had stepped out of the redline. With a few taps at my fancy wristwatch I had made my announcement for ownership of the panel and stood there...waiting, Waiting for the glorious battle that was to ensue. They're forces approached. One by one and two by two I slaid as many as I could. They reclaimed the panel, there was nothing I could do about that, not with the rest of my "team" (what a lousy name for a bunch of blues hiding in the hills with militia snipers) hiding in the redline. But I fought tooth and nail to let them know I would not stand for such a terrible plague. I fought hard and I fought well but alas I could not win the war. But yet, I, Leonidas, came back with my shield and not on it BEEEOOOTTTCHHH!!!! CANT TAKE MY LOGIBRO'S SCRAAAAAABBBBBSSS!!!! GIT GUD!!!! TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! o7!!!! But seriously though. I hate carrying teams just because im with a bunch of broke militia scrubs who dont know what to do and dont have the sp or isk to do it if they did. Fix it. Tactical Slayer- The art of being able to get good kill games without sacrificing the main objectives.
Git Gud Bruh Dead Man's Game 1	Posted - 2015.12.10 08:58:00 - [99] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Git Gud Bruh wrote: I have to agree with D1CK (which almost never happens). Yesterday I was playing a match 6 v 14 and I was on the short end. We we're almost immediately redlined and I found myself literally the only one still pushing, the rest had gone to sniping. I had 3 deaths and not a kill to my name. I slapped on a logibros and a massdriver, finishing the match out 12/3. My teammates however got the reaming of a lifetime. Letting players rush the enemy team in full proto (with an archduke's sentinel and 2 proto logi's on his trail while he slings around an alex's hmg like it were giant phallus) only results in the scrubs bailing, the ones too new to know how to leave shake in their boots in the redline hoping the timer will save them and lets me reap the rewards of people only out to slay the scrubs. They saw me flying through the sky in my glorious blue attire, shooting balls of spasm like it were my own Alex's Phallus and they were a face to disgrace. They scattered like rats in a sewer, they only stopped running when I stepped on one of them. The biggest and "baddest" rat around...Let's call him King Rat (a rather wellfit name) even ran, his logi's still leashed as I chased him. FEE FII FOO FUH! I SMELL THE BLOOD OF AN ARCHDUKE'S BRUH! I chanted as I closed in towards him. Knee's weak, arm's heavy from toting his phallus, his logi's gave in, swapping to their primaries, they all crossed their beams at me like Bill Murray himself had commanded it. And then all was silent. An archduke's lost to a disgraceful melee, the logi's mere cannonfodder. I turned, spitting on his corpse as I passed, headed back to the point that was mine, and mine alone. After all I had earned it, I had slain king rat and his revitalizing scum, I had picked off his army of gal assaults he had brought and most importantly I had stepped out of the redline. With a few taps at my fancy wristwatch I had made my announcement for ownership of the panel and stood there...waiting, Waiting for the glorious battle that was to ensue. They're forces approached. One by one and two by two I slaid as many as I could. They reclaimed the panel, there was nothing I could do about that, not with the rest of my "team" (what a lousy name for a bunch of blues hiding in the hills with militia snipers) hiding in the redline. But I fought tooth and nail to let them know I would not stand for such a terrible plague. I fought hard and I fought well but alas I could not win the war. But yet, I, Leonidas, came back with my shield and not on it BEEEOOOTTTCHHH!!!! CANT TAKE MY LOGIBRO'S SCRAAAAAABBBBBSSS!!!! GIT GUD!!!! TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! o7!!!! But seriously though. I hate carrying teams just because im with a bunch of broke militia scrubs who dont know what to do and dont have the sp or isk to do it if they did. Fix it. I never meant for it to be reader-friendly. Anyone who's going to do anything about fixing this game is simply going to read my corp tag and go on with their day of doing absolutely nothing about any problems. But thank you for the effort, or grammar-nazification if that's what you're in it for.
Fristname Family name Opus Arcana 754	Posted - 2015.12.10 09:45:00 - [100] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Matchmaking SOMETHING has to be done ASAP (downtime tomorrow pretty, pretty please) And imo it has to start with the gear we can use in Public matches.. I do not care how much you grinded, spent or boosted to get it, The best fittings have NO place in Pubs. They are the only casual gamemode.. yet since the dawn of dust they have been overrun with Proto gear. INB4 bla..bla..blablabla.. it's New Eden brah.. who said anything about fair?? Git Gud scraaaaabbbzz.. @ CCP, you are allowing your game to be destroyed by it's playerbase.. SORT IT OUT. For reference.. look at the weekly stats for LHughes and viper xsniper If that is not enough reason to do something to even the battles.. I don't know what is Personally, I use Proto too much in these modes.. but I am countered by reckless stupidity no matter the cost Where "top" players.. are anything but reckless.. and from seeing how they play.. it's literally farming... Faced with a threat "run for your life" and this RUINS gameplay... how?? Because the game is built around CLONES.. they respawn, the fun is by making them do so We had a match earlier.. DMG v DMG squads, both teams with Corp players filling the rest, an even fight Yet the actions of vets, they would rather flank n' spank and do nothing to help their team push the objective Maybe it's seeing l33t players with their 1.46 KD like me.. and the fear just takes over By limiting the tiers of gear used. And the expenses of fighting in Public Contracts - Newbs.. can actually stand a chance. - Vets.. might actually grow a pair in even battles. Yes the game lags, blablabla.. this is not the only problem I am aware of that.. BUT!! This ruins a majority of the battles played daily.. the players are scrubs they love stomping.. SORT IT OUT CCP!!! This isn't all aimed at you just a little rant i guess idk. Like to put a few things to your attention and everyone's... Yes i guess it is possible to match make through total sp from like lets say 0-10mill, 11-30, 31-60, 61+ (just as a example and tbh those are probably reasonable numbers even so the matchmaking time will be longer based on time zones, new player growth ect.) but the other thing is, I have alts, i can give them isk, they have sp, I can give them BPO's if really wanted so on so on, now if you compare something like this to League of legends where you can make a smerf (pretty much a alt so you can have kickback games as matchmaking is based of some unseen rank im pretty sure and the actual ranked mode its self.) But lets say you have a platinum player (bronze, silver, gold, plat, challanger, forget its like top players of your region i think it is LCS) that plat smerf will breeze through the ranks with no problem as they just flat out can outskill/play low tier players and wont hinder games ect. but in Dust, if you use SP for MM its gonna take forever to get out of low sp players ect.. and whats to say people dont have isk? whats to say someone never runs proto cause they don't wanna (me with my suits and some weapons, knives/swarms/mods equipment has gotta be that good stuff tho) or just runs fun fits (me again) that would ruin their fun and make them feel sad (me when i punch someone 10times and get hitmarkers with 1k+ melee damage and they don't take damage) pretty much matching low sp players against each other is a **** idea ect ect same with all sp/stat, ect matchmaking things, now everyone stop crying about this and just play the damm game and stop playing when you get mad and just play something else or go to a chatroom and chill. Your idea now, first off.... whats the point of getting proto gear if i cant run it in any game mode i choose? If you were limiting proto gear that would include everything proto, thus apex, useless, proto equipment and so on so on you get the point im making. I honestly will 1 punch anything if i get a hit and not hitmarkers regardless of what tier your stuff is, if i punch/knife a proto then lol i will have a giggle at times, how often do i take a look and actually care what so ever? when theres no one even near me lol cause i got nothing to do. but have you ever tried to use a adv rep tool on your logi? its trash, can't rep fast like a core focused or rep 2 people, poop lel. yeah i see your idea and all and i agree its good in theory to some extent, but does it really need their whole team to drop everything and work on it flat out and having it probably not work when its launched due to no time to bug fix? i think you weren't searious when you said that but have you actually coded a game before? do you know how freaking annoying it is to find errors in the code at times? you also realize that even if this did happen, your 'positive KDR' (wow great job, i think i got one on my scout as well as my main and I thought i died like 20times a game but it appears those 30/2 games in adv gear change a lot. along with that ill leave you with the note that a majority of my fits I use frequently on every account i have is no joke, some gun, another gun/knife lots of blues and reds maybe a green (rarely a green) and then if i have room whatever else i can fit... with that i manage to go positive, btw its never above a adv gun and only if i have extra room, and never above adv suit, i think i normally run a std minja with blues and reds with a adv plc and a stnd or adv scrambler pistol, that fit has 0 pg/cpu free or something like that.. I still can manage to take down people like you with your fancy gizmos and your big KDR. Honestly matchmaking is completly fine. if their team has a squad, well so does yours cause of how matchmaking works. so yeah. you got killed my a fit made by some kid with adhd who wasn't drugged to keep normal when he was making a few fits. so what, that's your problem.) lastly is how you play. bai max characters xxo BAKA! Why would I love you!! >blushes and looks down as you start to walk away i tug on your shirt and look in your eyes

Fristname Family name Opus Arcana 754	Posted - 2015.12.10 09:48:00 - [101] - Quote ^pretty much to sum that up^ Your all baka's as far as i care.. If your mad stay mad as if i care lel its always fun to make others mad don't care if you rock up at my house with i knife, ill grab one and hold it to my throat first so you can't get the chance to do it to make you mad. Ill make you cookies and give you all the burnt ones, you'll be mad after that ;) <3 love you all to some extent of minimal care peace BAKA! Why would I love you!! >blushes and looks down as you start to walk away i tug on your shirt and look in your eyes
Fristname Family name Opus Arcana 754	Posted - 2015.12.10 09:50:00 - [102] - Quote By the way if everyone ran full proto commando suits they cost about 300k each, really fun way to lose isk and i don't even know the point of this post anymore :/ XD BAKA! Why would I love you!! >blushes and looks down as you start to walk away i tug on your shirt and look in your eyes
ANON Cerberus TerranProtossZerg 954	Posted - 2015.12.10 10:29:00 - [103] - Quote I have been a cheap bastard in this game like 90% of the time I have played. My main has many many proto dropsuits and weapons yet you will find me in game with a Quafe forge tucked under my arm. I like to be able to play however I please without fear of going broke. Besides as a forger unless I am fighting tanks there is no real need to spend big iskies on proto.


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